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Erich Bloodaxe BSN

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139. I gotta say...

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 06:58 PM

Apr 2014

We had a few weeks of a class on things that I would generally call woo in the BSN program. Basically, what it came down to, per the instructor, was that if the placebo effect helps any given patient, use it. If they believe that their chronic pain is reduced by sniffing scented candles, let them sniff scented candles. Ditto most of the other stuff, even if double blind trials show no benefit to the general public. That and 'pick your battles'. Don't increase patients' stress levels by trying to dissuade them from any given 'woo' that A) wasn't harmful, and B) didn't stop them from also seeking actual medical help.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] darkangel218 Apr 2014 OP

I just posted that thread! Whats with all the Horse Metaphors! snooper2 Apr 2014 #1

You know, i alerted on your post when you made shit up about me. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #2

I'm not trying to beat a dead horse snooper2 Apr 2014 #7

Acupuncture and diet are not forms of homeopathy. FSogol Apr 2014 #3

Thank you maddezmom Apr 2014 #5

And thats wrong. Why? darkangel218 Apr 2014 #9

Random House, not big pharma. FSogol Apr 2014 #17

Yes, it's WRONG. Atman Apr 2014 #22

Don't let your blind hatred of big pharma MattBaggins Apr 2014 #88

She's supposedly in school for nursing. tammywammy Apr 2014 #92

Or graduated, even. She went from 1st semester to graduation in 9 months. Heddi Apr 2014 #134

I gotta say... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #139

Oh dear. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #155

Ha ha! how funny! lol darkangel218 Apr 2014 #172

Wait!! Sissyk Apr 2014 #127

Not in any state with a competent provider directory eridani Apr 2014 #150

+1 nt Zorra Apr 2014 #46

I prefer this dramatization from Mitchell and Webb progressoid Apr 2014 #65

+1. LOL. n/t FSogol Apr 2014 #86

+1 Historic NY Apr 2014 #106

+1 sakabatou Apr 2014 #94

Acupuncture and diet are not homeopathy, though. MostlyAmused Apr 2014 #4

i was gonna say CreekDog Apr 2014 #140

Eating a healthy diet isn't homeopathy. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2014 #6

i am hoping she confused holistic with homeopathy re; dietary practices. dionysus Apr 2014 #115

I would hope a nurse would know what homeopathy is. Brickbat Apr 2014 #8

Ha! Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #15

I do too. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #18

Natural cures aren't homeopathy. Did you read the definition? n/t FSogol Apr 2014 #24

A lot of the alternative medicine incorporates self healing darkangel218 Apr 2014 #173

Here, I'll spell it out for you. Brickbat Apr 2014 #25

Your OP and subsequent replies clearly indicate you do not know what "homeopathy" is. tammywammy Apr 2014 #26

I don't see animosity against natural cures. Atman Apr 2014 #28

natural remedies are great eShirl Apr 2014 #30

especially ones involving whiskey. FSogol Apr 2014 #36

It's for medicinal purposes, I swear! eShirl Apr 2014 #40

The animosity is against the people pushing the "cures", not the "cures" themselves. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #31

No one's against "natural remedies" or whatever that means. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #32

If you're talking about natural remedies, you're not MineralMan Apr 2014 #39

Homeopathy is NOT a "natural remedy" It isn't anything but bullshit. mr blur Apr 2014 #44

"Homeopathy is not about water"... SidDithers Apr 2014 #50

I have no animosity 840high Apr 2014 #56

You need to get your money back from whatever school you went to. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #78

I am terrified if that one actually passed their boards. MattBaggins Apr 2014 #90

So am I. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #91

I don't think they did Heddi Apr 2014 #147

Even those natural remedies that work have a basis in reality MNBrewer Apr 2014 #89

Homeopathic cures come out of the fucking faucet! jmowreader Apr 2014 #122

You really seriously don't know the definition of homeopathy. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #184

Homeopathy has nothing to do with acupuncture. MineralMan Apr 2014 #10

Indeed, the 'placebo effect' is real. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2014 #11

The only perspective I'm open to is where the evidence leads. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #12

Yes it is. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #13

Acupuncture and diet are not homeopathy jmowreader Apr 2014 #14

... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #16

Lol.. enjoy your drama pop corns. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #19

Actually, I was prepared to cheer for you against some posters that are bound to ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #33

I dont care if you rec my posts or not, nor do i care for your "cheers" lol darkangel218 Apr 2014 #175

That you don't know what Homeopathy is does not define the question for others cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #20

Your definition is also very incorrect. It's a word in English, we don't have to ponder Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #59

When it is diluted to 10 to the 30th power arcane1 Apr 2014 #69

Oh my... There is a reason we don't call a dictionary an encyclopedia. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #84

You need to google homeopathy tammywammy Apr 2014 #21

You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? - Medicine. MrNJ Apr 2014 #23

What do they call alternative medicine proven not to work? MattBaggins Apr 2014 #96

Acupuncture is part of traditional Chinese medicine. Rex Apr 2014 #27

And actually, it's not very 'traditional', either. (as practiced today) X_Digger Apr 2014 #51

Interesting website, thanks! Rex Apr 2014 #53

Lol, what a joke. JJChambers Apr 2014 #29

there have been thousands of scientifical trials to prove that it works La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #34

Homeopathy is pure woo. Iggo Apr 2014 #35

Heavily-diluted woo, actually. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #37

Nicely done. Brickbat Apr 2014 #45

I used to like a certain brand of homeopathic eye drops. Atman Apr 2014 #38

I'm glad they're complying with the law. MineralMan Apr 2014 #43

Again, belladonna used to be listed as an active ingredient in Similasin eye drops. Atman Apr 2014 #52

But, if it's actually homeopathic, there wasn't any atropine in it MineralMan Apr 2014 #57

Oh, I totally agree. Atman Apr 2014 #60

I almost (accidentally) bought those eye drops yesterday. Nine Apr 2014 #66

They keep coming up with new names for the eye drops. Atman Apr 2014 #71

6x mn9driver Apr 2014 #114

They need a law that all stores selling these bullshit products MattBaggins Apr 2014 #100

Well... Kelvin Mace Apr 2014 #41

Get off your own high horse. Accupuncture isn't homeopathy... SidDithers Apr 2014 #42

In order for it to work, all that we know in science would have to be wrong... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #47

You are conflating alternative treatments to homeopathy, as has already been pointed out. LiberalAndProud Apr 2014 #48

...over and over and over again. Iggo Apr 2014 #55

Homeopathy is a big component of all the alternative medicine. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #176

HeadOn, darkangel. LiberalAndProud Apr 2014 #181

Who cares if you agree? darkangel218 Apr 2014 #197

That isn't homeopathy. Homeopathy posits things like water memory... Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #185

And you really believe in literal effect of water memory? darkangel218 Apr 2014 #198

No, you believe water memory is correct. You're the one in support of it. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #200

I dont believe water memory theory is correct. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #202

No, it isn't... cyberswede Apr 2014 #188

Acupuncture and diet are not homeopathy LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #49

I'm gonna let Chris Tucker handle this thread... Scootaloo Apr 2014 #54

This thread... Dr. Strange Apr 2014 #58

Of course it's not. You left out the additional "woo". nt. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #61

homeopathy isn't acupuncture and diet 2pooped2pop Apr 2014 #62

You're silly. nt Codeine Apr 2014 #63

Oh.my.god. cyberswede Apr 2014 #64

Would it help if we just called it Bullshit? Jgarrick Apr 2014 #67

Great show wheniwasincongress Apr 2014 #159

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Liberal Veteran Apr 2014 #68

What an insightful reply. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #174

Of course Homeopathy and Acupuncture are entirely different traditions G_j Apr 2014 #70

You really have no clue what homeopathy is, do you? etherealtruth Apr 2014 #72

Homeopathy Ambulance: Woowoowoowoowoowoowoowoowoowoowoowoowoowoowoo!!! Throd Apr 2014 #73

I hope you read these replies zappaman Apr 2014 #74

Learning is woo, apparently. -nt Liberal Veteran Apr 2014 #75

Next week angel will be posting another thread about homeopathy being legit MattBaggins Apr 2014 #101

Are you really just on DU, Call Me Wesley Apr 2014 #76

Bless your heart. Heidi Apr 2014 #77

To recap: Acupuncture and Diet are not Homeopathy tkmorris Apr 2014 #79

"Doctor! Doctor! Call Me Wesley Apr 2014 #80

Dilutions of grandeur. Heidi Apr 2014 #104

DUzy!! n/t eridani Apr 2014 #153

Massive homeopathic overdose.... Jean Louise Finch Apr 2014 #81

I love it!!!!! etherealtruth Apr 2014 #82

You are correct; it is the "essence" of woo Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #83

Accupuncture and Diet are not Homeopathy. NRaleighLiberal Apr 2014 #85

1+1=2 MattBaggins Apr 2014 #87

It's not, but many freepers here and others who profit from existing closeupready Apr 2014 #93

huh? NRaleighLiberal Apr 2014 #103

I think you do not understand the term "freeper." MineralMan Apr 2014 #105

Since you were, in fact, once a Free Republic member, you'd know. closeupready Apr 2014 #107

So were a number of DUers. MineralMan Apr 2014 #109

You're the only one of which I'm aware who admits to it publicly. closeupready Apr 2014 #110

You're welcome to any discount you can find on my opinions. MineralMan Apr 2014 #111

lot's of DUers admit to trolling FR... dionysus Apr 2014 #121

And is that a productive endeavor? closeupready Apr 2014 #128

not to me there isn't, but i can see how someone might like yanking their chains,or, if they really dionysus Apr 2014 #133

True - I guess a function of advancing age is a growing inability to closeupready Apr 2014 #143

yeah, i troll my RW friends and acquaintances on FB, but i don't have the energy to take it dionysus Apr 2014 #160

Yeah, most of my hometown friends are RW - not sure why... but closeupready Apr 2014 #161

i get deluged with jeebus, guns,and gays are bad shit, plus obama is the antichrist..(and more guns) dionysus Apr 2014 #162

... SidDithers Apr 2014 #108

No, some of us just have a working knowledge of how science works. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #117

yes, it is. nt oldhippie Apr 2014 #95

Pla-Ce-Bo E-ffect qazplm Apr 2014 #97

Placebo effect works. Placebo effect is not woo, its a proven fact. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #195

Caca de vaca hobbit709 Apr 2014 #98

Says you. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #196

But it is though. bravenak Apr 2014 #99

Are they woo? Archae Apr 2014 #102

Homeopathy is water that is supposed to have magical properties. Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #112

Water that "remembers" the medicine, but forgets all of the poo baldguy Apr 2014 #157

And what's crazy is, there is no medicine in most water but there is plenty of poo. Walk away Apr 2014 #191

Of course not, and anyone making such a simplistic statement is a total boob whatchamacallit Apr 2014 #113

You would be right if the OP were not about homeopathy cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #116

Sure, I should have been more clear about responding mainly to the diet part of the post whatchamacallit Apr 2014 #118

I agree that diet is super important, medically cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #120

i think they're confused with holistic remedies. dionysus Apr 2014 #119

I think you are right. And some practitioners cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #123

while i can see realigning a really crooked spine might be beneficial (the rugby players in college dionysus Apr 2014 #125

The original theory is that most/all disease is caused by "subluxations" of the spine, so cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #129

oh, i thought they primarily dealt in bad backs.. what you described is nuts. dionysus Apr 2014 #130

Hmmm. 90% of barefoot walking on cold floors is on the way to the bathroom at night... cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #132

99% of it is harmless bullshit. 1% can kill you. white_wolf Apr 2014 #124

No, homeopathy is WATER Warpy Apr 2014 #126

Thank you darkangel218! Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2014 #131

What does that have to do with homeopathy? Atman Apr 2014 #136

darkangel218 said: Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2014 #137

Actually, that was a reply to this post maddezmom Apr 2014 #138

Placebo effect! nt Logical Apr 2014 #149

Homeopathy is not the same as acupuncture or dieting. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2014 #135

All I know is that at a time in my life when I didn't have health insurance . . . markpkessinger Apr 2014 #141

When I feel gallbladder discomfort 840high Apr 2014 #152

Maybe you were constipated elias7 Apr 2014 #165

i wonder if this is what Correspondence Nursing Schools are teaching "homeopathy" means these days CreekDog Apr 2014 #142

Acupuncture is NOT homeopathy. Neither is being a dietician. n/t eridani Apr 2014 #144

I know certain homeopathic remedies have worked for me.. but, Cha Apr 2014 #145

and astrology is a science. hobbit709 Apr 2014 #146

In the old days people said slaughtering a chicken cured them. Believe it? LOL! nt Logical Apr 2014 #148

Homeopathy is not woo because Reiki cures fibromyalgia and it's good to exercise. enki23 Apr 2014 #151

My perspective is that you don't know the meaning of the word "homeopathy" TroglodyteScholar Apr 2014 #154

It's woo... Uben Apr 2014 #156

Yes, it is. Gold plated, pie in the sky woo of the highest order. TransitJohn Apr 2014 #158

Woo Riftaxe Apr 2014 #163

I've been successfully treated Boreal Apr 2014 #164

Nope. The agenda against homeopathy is reasoning, common sense and science. NRaleighLiberal Apr 2014 #166

+10000 maddezmom Apr 2014 #167

What do acupuncture and diet have to do with homeopathy? Lol. nt. RedCappedBandit Apr 2014 #168

Its all based on mind over body, in essence. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #171

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #169

. NRaleighLiberal Apr 2014 #170

That reply was so perfect, it was worth the hide. cyberswede Apr 2014 #190

I honestly don't know how anyone reading the OP and thread could vote to hide that reply. Walk away Apr 2014 #192

Lol!! well too bad, that poster got what she deserved. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #193

sometimes Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #177

Meh.. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #199

No, it's actually water. alarimer Apr 2014 #178

And the plural of anecdote is still not data NickB79 Apr 2014 #179

+1000000000 NuclearDem Apr 2014 #180

I always homeopathy referred only to the practice of diluting a substance in a water solution....... AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #182

Do you believe that diluting a substance makes it more potent? Because that is moronic. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #183

Sheer Ignorance..Even the Queen's Royal Hospital of Homeopathy was forced to change it's name. Why? libdem4life Apr 2014 #186

There's nobody, other than you apparently, who considers acupuncture to be homeopathy... SidDithers Apr 2014 #187

The fun part about actupuncture jeff47 Apr 2014 #189

That was my point. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #194

Im deleting my OP. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #201