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Jake Stern

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44. Most people don't listen to warnings until it is too late, MohRokTah
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:07 AM
Apr 2014

In Italy circa 1920 people who saw the oncoming threat posed by Mussolini and his group tried desperately to warn the people about it.

They were told that the blackshirts were just a fringe movement and worrying about them was a waste of time.

Many Germans scoffed at an Austrian born German army veteran and his followers down in Munich.

There was no way these "National Socialists" would be anything more than a fringe movement they said.

More than a few Democrats had guffaws at the expense of the Tea Party.

What was the response? The Tea Party was just a "flash in the pan" and nothing to be concerned about. They were "too fringe" to ever do anything. The 2010 election proved that way of thinking to be very wrong.

Now we're on the cusp of an armed conflict between the militia and their supporters and the government and, as usual, warnings about what's to come are either unceremoniously brushed aside or even mocked.

Just like the apathy of the people of Italy and Germany allowed fringe groups to go mainstream and grab power I fear the apathy of Americans will allow these thugs to get bolder and bolder until a firefight is unavoidable.



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fuck 'im…. dhill926 Apr 2014 #1
Because federal law enforcement officers do not have 2nd Amenment rights to bear arms bluestateguy Apr 2014 #2
If it weren't so serious a situation, wouldn't you want to say this violates the workers' second karynnj Apr 2014 #3
or else what? eShirl Apr 2014 #4
The armed militia terrorists are still there MohRokTah Apr 2014 #5
Armed violent "militia" = Patriots. Unarmed "Occupy" protestors = Dangerous terrorists. WinkyDink Apr 2014 #48
You sure do like that word Boreal Apr 2014 #50
1. Dogs aren't humans or citizens. 2.These ARMED Right-wingers who flout the law ARE TERRORISTS. WinkyDink Apr 2014 #55
Just becuase dogs arern't humans Boreal Apr 2014 #64
I'm just wondering about the actual numbers, not the reality of police brutality. As for dogs: I WinkyDink Apr 2014 #65
He's figured out that he's in charge. Codeine Apr 2014 #6
Yep, the feds gave into a terrorist's demands MohRokTah Apr 2014 #7
So now he is threatening the Sheriff.... maddezmom Apr 2014 #8
They've threatened violence, that's how they got the BLM to back down MohRokTah Apr 2014 #9
I doubt Gillespie will comply with this order maddezmom Apr 2014 #12
Handing the guns over to them will only increase the danger. I cannot see them handing them over. jwirr Apr 2014 #42
Oh no he didn't shenmue Apr 2014 #10
The BLM backed down with threats before MohRokTah Apr 2014 #11
Big difference between the two demands, would be the too obvious answer. seabeyond Apr 2014 #32
I wish the LV Review Journal had cited some source for this blurb. Very fluid situation, it seems. pinto Apr 2014 #13
Looks like SWAT and others are on the scene now maddezmom Apr 2014 #14
Jesus TroglodyteScholar Apr 2014 #15
I knew it was bad for the BLM to back down MohRokTah Apr 2014 #16
I believe SWAT and others are there so BLM can get their equipment out and traffic issues maddezmom Apr 2014 #17
Sounds likely. Precaution, safe passage, keep the peace, etc. pinto Apr 2014 #21
You know, I hate the idea of Free Speech Zones louis-t Apr 2014 #26
Where do you find the block of text in the OP? TroglodyteScholar Apr 2014 #18
Live feeds and additional stories. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #19
One problem with avoiding violence at any and all costs is that TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #20
maybe dumb question but... Takket Apr 2014 #22
It's a sovereign citizen thing. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #24
Cliven Bundy sounds just like Andy Devine when he talks. Loudly Apr 2014 #23
He also wants a new car... jmowreader Apr 2014 #25
And ICE CREAM! I WANT ICE CREAM! louis-t Apr 2014 #27
...and he wants a hamburger! No, a cheeseburger! RandiFan1290 Apr 2014 #29
And some fresh coffee, and a recount jmowreader Apr 2014 #43
"Let the mayor go, and we'll throw in a Blaupunkt." Nay Apr 2014 #30
The new list of demands includes SwankyXomb Apr 2014 #41
You seem to know your Mormon assholes pretty well . . . siligut Apr 2014 #45
Oh Boy!!! Wellstone ruled Apr 2014 #28
This guy wants a conflict penultimate Apr 2014 #31
What am I missing here? Brigid Apr 2014 #33
I asked him for a link to who said that he said that and so far.......crickets. IronGate Apr 2014 #34
It has been edited, I did read it at the link. Hence my comments up thread. maddezmom Apr 2014 #35
Oh. A rumor, maybe? Brigid Apr 2014 #38
The news org edited it here is the link. maddezmom Apr 2014 #40
Here is a link.. maddezmom Apr 2014 #36
Don't link to those assholes Nevernose Apr 2014 #46
..... maddezmom Apr 2014 #56
Huh. Missed that one Nevernose Apr 2014 #57
Completely agree maddezmom Apr 2014 #59
There's no way to win here treestar Apr 2014 #37
"without hurting him or any of his followers." I'm just not seeing the downside here. WinkyDink Apr 2014 #49
As much as I'd love to see an AC-130 gunship wipe this asshole from the face of the earth... NutmegYankee Apr 2014 #60
But that may be difficult treestar Apr 2014 #61
just drop dead? MFM008 Apr 2014 #39
Most people don't listen to warnings until it is too late, MohRokTah Jake Stern Apr 2014 #44
Sooner or later, something's going to be enough to spark these fools into action. ladyVet Apr 2014 #47
Never did laugh at them. Was wary of them from the moment they hit the scene. Jake Stern Apr 2014 #66
Well.. I DEMAND that Cliven Bundy be disarmed.. The man is a domestic terrorist. annabanana Apr 2014 #51
Actually, I think the government's strategy is working Shankapotomus Apr 2014 #52
In that situation the round-up stopped was the best choice when men with rifles could have Sunlei Apr 2014 #63
They need to remind these yahoos that they do in fact have both MattBaggins Apr 2014 #53
He's self-destructing in front of the world. randome Apr 2014 #54
He now meets the US government's definition of a terrorist and is a threat to America rustydog Apr 2014 #58
Breaking news: 99Forever Apr 2014 #62
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