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Orrex

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95. Well, that's not really an answer

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:24 AM

Apr 2014

If a non-participating bystander kicked out the scaffolding, and 100 other non-participating bystanders called it art, does that make it art? Deferring to the fleeting will of some majority, by which standard everything can potentially be called art, is simply a way to declare that everything is art, without having to put oneself on the hook for making that statement.

I'm not saying that I can offer a solid way to define art, but I have never heard or read a definition that couldn't easily be interpreted to encompass the entirety of human endeavor.

If a bystander kicked one of the scaffolds out from under her and was working with her--it would be part of the art. If a bystander was just being an arrogant angry jerk, then it would be assault. Duh?

Why specifically can assault not be art? I'm not saying that it is; I'm asking why you are saying that it is not.

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Artist gives birth to vaginal painting [View all] LittleBlue Apr 2014 OP

Wow, roughly as impressive as men squirting paint out of their thangs... cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #1

That would be seminal art, though n/t eridani Apr 2014 #138

Ok that's a DUzy Flying Squirrel Apr 2014 #151

hope the paint was nontoxic hypoallergenic eShirl Apr 2014 #2

Just served on a jury for this. Kaleva Apr 2014 #3

Any results? nt LittleBlue Apr 2014 #7

5-2 to leave it. Kaleva Apr 2014 #12

Hell yeah LittleBlue Apr 2014 #13

I understand why people alerted, this is just so wrong Warpy Apr 2014 #19

LOL! Trailrider1951 Apr 2014 #23

you had a naked woman, in the middle of square and even that could not draw a crowd to her stupid. seabeyond Apr 2014 #26

Sometimes it's wiser to let things stand Warpy Apr 2014 #40

here's a good twerking video for refreshment Voice for Peace Apr 2014 #41

Thank goodness Firefox no longer shows videos. Warpy Apr 2014 #45

it's a very cute dog. gives twerking a new and warmhearted meaning Voice for Peace Apr 2014 #47

Oh, an antidote to the unfortunate visual in my post Warpy Apr 2014 #48

I use Firefox... TeeYiYi Apr 2014 #49

that's hysterical lillypaddle Apr 2014 #108

This is Germany. joshcryer Apr 2014 #69

WTF Go Vols Apr 2014 #4

My thought exactly..... n/t bobGandolf Apr 2014 #153

Perhaps the "vaginal knitter" will knit a gift in honor of the blessed event. 1000words Apr 2014 #5

Impressive, but I prefer... TeeYiYi Apr 2014 #6

Who could top that...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #28

I'm just glad she did not use a knitting machine intaglio Apr 2014 #30

I've got one of those ladders. dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #8

lol hipsters d_b Apr 2014 #9

I was expecting the onion nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #10

She's gonna shoot an onion from there? msanthrope Apr 2014 #142

Love it. WilliamPitt Apr 2014 #11

Surprised it was censored. joshcryer Apr 2014 #68

just because it is allowed does not mean that the poster may not use discretion. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #114

Damn, why did I even waste my time going to art school? Throd Apr 2014 #14

um..... that's actually a very good question.... kiawah Apr 2014 #94

That is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen with the label of art Gman Apr 2014 #15

There's a LOT of marions ghost Apr 2014 #39

No matter how many times or how loufdly people whistler162 Apr 2014 #52

Performance art solicits a response 1000words Apr 2014 #53

That Is The Standard Lame Excuse ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #70

"Solicit" 1000words Apr 2014 #71

The standard lame rebuttal... marions ghost Apr 2014 #73

I Don't Need Your Help, Thanks Anyway ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #154

Meh, I give no approval or disapproval marions ghost Apr 2014 #160

Is this Art? marions ghost Apr 2014 #163

When he was a child, my son used to play "The Game" demwing Apr 2014 #79

Your son is brilliant marions ghost Apr 2014 #87

Well thanks a lot OriginalGeek Apr 2014 #107

There are other opinions marions ghost Apr 2014 #72

It makes a helluva lot if sense that Gman Apr 2014 #131

Not by your definition marions ghost Apr 2014 #133

The most biting criticism of performance art: 1000words Apr 2014 #135

That's really true of so many things marions ghost Apr 2014 #136

Gotta agree with your last statement Gman Apr 2014 #141

OK marions ghost Apr 2014 #144

I think anything that doesn't contribute directly to your physical survival is "art". Marr Apr 2014 #150

yeah and marions ghost Apr 2014 #159

It's shock value stupidity. Marr Apr 2014 #149

Gawd, Rembrandt is turning in his grave NV Whino Apr 2014 #16

Even Jackson Pollock Warpy Apr 2014 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #63

Meh...anybody can do that... pipi_k Apr 2014 #17

Ok - that was funny. nt cyberswede Apr 2014 #25

Some guy back in the nineties, can't remember his name rrneck Apr 2014 #50

DUzy! n/t eridani Apr 2014 #147

Silly. undeterred Apr 2014 #18

At least she wasn't degraded by being on the cover of a sports magazine The Straight Story Apr 2014 #21

She'd be better off on the cover of SI Gman Apr 2014 #37

We were talking about the desperate attempts of youth to try and "shock" and call it art. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #22

I agree marions ghost Apr 2014 #93

Enema Art Anyone Politicalboi Apr 2014 #24

...hmmmm, a squat and paint art form! RKP5637 Apr 2014 #103

Women pulling or pushing something out of their vagina marions ghost Apr 2014 #27

Sooner or later women will run out of things to insert/remove ... 1000words Apr 2014 #29

Maybe but still "fertile ground" ha ha marions ghost Apr 2014 #32

LOL 1000words Apr 2014 #34

And i was on the jury for the silly alert on this one...6-0 stand EX500rider Apr 2014 #58

as was I Sherman A1 Apr 2014 #59

What exactly was taken offense? 1000words Apr 2014 #60

I believe Sherman A1 Apr 2014 #62

lol ... Shock value? The thread about vaginal painting! 1000words Apr 2014 #64

Well, Sherman A1 Apr 2014 #65

Thanks for the words of support marions ghost Apr 2014 #81

My pleasure Sherman A1 Apr 2014 #83

I've never seen nor heard of Trunick, but that photo and event you showed is actually quite lovely. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #100

he's not as well known as he should be marions ghost Apr 2014 #162

"I find the human form to be a thing of intrinsic beauty" demwing Apr 2014 #82

You have Your opinion Sherman A1 Apr 2014 #84

Humanity in its various forms marions ghost Apr 2014 #86

What about juror number seven? Orrex Apr 2014 #97

woops.......0-7 i meant.... n/t EX500rider Apr 2014 #98

Oh, sure. Now your story's changing. Orrex Apr 2014 #99

I bet dollars to donuts they ran out sometime in the early days of the roman empire MattBaggins Apr 2014 #139

A couple days a month, most premenopausal women could do this without paintballs. pnwmom Apr 2014 #55

Same here. joshcryer Apr 2014 #67

Who knew Kegel and Rorschach could be such an inspiration in art. Glassunion Apr 2014 #31

I sure hope she sold well... LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #33

fucking idiot JI7 Apr 2014 #35

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #54

How pathetically... 3catwoman3 Apr 2014 #36

Exactly Gman Apr 2014 #38

This is just like Jim Carey bending over and using his hands to move his butt cheeks MattBaggins Apr 2014 #140

At least she didn't degrade herself by appearing on the cover of the swimsuit issue of SI. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #42

Well, it's hard to airbrush a live person. cyberswede Apr 2014 #43

True. It is her idea and she's carrying it out treestar Apr 2014 #92

*** Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #148

Bird Shit Art rug Apr 2014 #44

Like I described ina different thread... Archae Apr 2014 #46

I can give this points for good muscular control, but beyond that, not much! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2014 #51

She ain't gettin' squat for these paintings Blue Owl Apr 2014 #56

From a business perspective, she laid an egg. 1000words Apr 2014 #57

As a sex-positive feminist.....I say, more power to her! nt AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #61

cool story, bro. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #113

Whatever you say, Tuesday. Whatever you say. nt AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #119

She's claiming she says that to any man who is a sex positive feminist... Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #156

I guess art is no longer in the eyes of the beholder LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #66

They are both art marions ghost Apr 2014 #75

So is it art if I piss my name in the snow? Major Nikon Apr 2014 #80

Maybe marions ghost Apr 2014 #89

You mean there are bad, unskilled ways to squirt paint out of your cooch? Frank Cannon Apr 2014 #109

Like I said marions ghost Apr 2014 #124

I'll tell you a story. rrneck Apr 2014 #137

DUzy!!! nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #143

Yes. rrneck Apr 2014 #96

You never know Mosby Apr 2014 #123

Such a long time after Duchamp's urinal too marions ghost Apr 2014 #125

If a bystander had kicked one of the scaffolds out from under her, would that be art? Orrex Apr 2014 #90

Wow --I am NOT saying that everything is art marions ghost Apr 2014 #91

Well, that's not really an answer Orrex Apr 2014 #95

Your assumption marions ghost Apr 2014 #104

What are those boundaries? And who decides them? Orrex Apr 2014 #106

Yes--it is art because enough somebodies agree it is marions ghost Apr 2014 #120

Your putting words into my mouth LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #118

OK I took you seriously marions ghost Apr 2014 #121

The emperor is obviously naked, as well. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #74

Vibrant and provocative. AngryAmish Apr 2014 #76

Lebowski anyone? Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #77

Nihilists! Fuck me... demwing Apr 2014 #85

I am the walrus Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #88

Shut the fuck up Donny!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #145

"Do you like coitus, Mr Lebowski?" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2014 #111

Johnson? Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #117

Well... 99Forever Apr 2014 #78

A dozen chili burgers and some Ex-lax would have eliminated the need for eggs. L0oniX Apr 2014 #101

anatomy. you might want to study it. - Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #112

Pushing stuff out of the body ...you might want to study it. L0oniX Apr 2014 #130

That is not what you said. As for Art/Performance Art, I could give/take a shit. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #146

The confusion and lack of of sense of humor is all yours. L0oniX Apr 2014 #157

So what is the name of her act? Generic Brad Apr 2014 #102

+1 Frank Cannon Apr 2014 #110

Thread Winner. Game Over. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #115

Creative interpretation marions ghost Apr 2014 #122

Germans. tabasco Apr 2014 #105

HoooWeee! 2naSalit Apr 2014 #116

I love how the guy is snapping away at 1:32 Reter Apr 2014 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Apr 2014 #127

eeeew Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #128

I agree marions ghost Apr 2014 #134

Great way to color easter eggs (nt) The Straight Story Apr 2014 #129

"Your wife was just showing us her Klimt" Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #132

Oy gevalt! Jake Stern Apr 2014 #152

For once I am speechless... yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #155

amazing. . . She call this art SHAMELESS? B Calm Apr 2014 #158

I think I just got sick... Xyzse Apr 2014 #161

LOL +1 B Calm Apr 2014 #164