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arikara

(5,562 posts)
125. Me too
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:39 PM
Apr 2014

That's the first thing I thought when I saw the title. I frickin' despise the word and the sentiment around it.

You know what else is really common, and generally accepted without mocking? Prayer. Electric Monk Apr 2014 #1
If some cancer hospitals are treating patients' pain with prayer, I didn't run into any. pnwmom Apr 2014 #2
When my mom had cancer, she had many friends who said they were praying for her recovery. Electric Monk Apr 2014 #4
perhaps prayer helps otherone Apr 2014 #28
nothing fails like prayer RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #134
I don't have the data otherone Apr 2014 #5
People who know they're being prayed for do slightly worse. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #14
I've heard differently otherone Apr 2014 #18
"Hearing differently" without data TBF Apr 2014 #136
I didn't find the data I was looking for otherone Apr 2014 #137
Good luck looking for TBF Apr 2014 #139
That is a good way of looking at it. otherone Apr 2014 #141
that study was so poorly designed and so poorly executed, NO ONE should reference it. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #19
The Templeton foundation surely wanted the opposite result. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #22
I've read differently. 840high Apr 2014 #37
me too otherone Apr 2014 #138
Quite the opposite LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #17
thanks for the info otherone Apr 2014 #20
You're welcome, and to you as well n/t LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #21
I wonder if I am the only one here sick of hearing the use of 'woo' roguevalley Apr 2014 #63
You are not alone. Not even close. Pathwalker Apr 2014 #64
I can't stand it, between that and other childish words thrown around here of late Dragonfli Apr 2014 #70
Not the only one. I wish we had a 'trash word' function. nt laundry_queen Apr 2014 #101
Me too arikara Apr 2014 #125
Jesus is woo? SwankyXomb Apr 2014 #67
Prayer doesn't have to have anything to do with Jesus. MattBaggins Apr 2014 #121
you got that right, your entire post. n/t Scout Apr 2014 #140
They probably aren't using coffee enemas and laetrile though. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #3
My step-mother was once prescribed decaf coffee enemas for relief from hives OriginalGeek Apr 2014 #85
Yes and bloodletting too... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #6
Medicinal use of leeches Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #93
My God. I thought it was COLGATE4 Apr 2014 #95
LOL! Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #96
doctors in the fifties saved four of my father's fingers using leeches roguevalley Apr 2014 #112
Yes, it is not woo/psuedoscience. That is wonderful for your father! Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #124
Next time you have a suspicious mole.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #7
Nice straw man. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #16
It is still woo.....it is no more effective than placebo.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #26
It's covered under Obamacare. Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #33
No matter where its used..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #66
how do you know? noiretextatique Apr 2014 #97
this is why I don't need to try to know... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #99
check the "science" on chemo noiretextatique Apr 2014 #100
that has NOTHING to do with this....BECAUSE VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #104
chemo also kills people noiretextatique Apr 2014 #108
and that STILL doesn't make it Woo.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #117
didn't you say chemo "cures" cancer? noiretextatique Apr 2014 #119
No.....but for some people it DOES save their life.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #122
The power of prayer is "woo" as has been shown by studies posted upthread Dragonfli Apr 2014 #71
I did not say that it was not woo...... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #72
I'm sorry that I misread the implication of comparison. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2014 #74
No problem....glad I could clarify... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #83
I think things like acupuncture have a hypnotic component that truly does help pain. mucifer Apr 2014 #8
That is the component people miss MattBaggins Apr 2014 #123
At the same time, none of them endorse "meridian" woo. nt Democracyinkind Apr 2014 #9
The fertility clinic that knocked me up with my twins Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #10
Happened with me, too. IdaBriggs Apr 2014 #59
Thank you marions ghost Apr 2014 #11
Acupuncture as such is not 'woo'; there is some evidence that it can relieve pain and other symptoms LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #12
IMO laundry_queen Apr 2014 #102
Yes -- reaction to any treatment is highly individual. n/t pnwmom Apr 2014 #129
It's a business. Cheap perks that give you a leg up over the competition are smart. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #13
The National Institutes of Health doesn't fund studies of hospital valet parking. n/t pnwmom Apr 2014 #31
What are they trying to hide? Iggo Apr 2014 #68
The National Institute of Health funded THIS VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #105
You won the thread. nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #143
Indeed. Looks like a "whole person approach;" justifies sky-high prices REP Apr 2014 #82
I think acupuncture has become an accepted treatment The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2014 #15
Are they using to alter the flow of qi? NuclearDem Apr 2014 #23
Oh please - KT2000 Apr 2014 #48
and STILL requires BELIEF in woo... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #107
How exactly do you know that? KT2000 Apr 2014 #113
How exactly do I know? Simple... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #116
This review article KT2000 Apr 2014 #131
that is HOW you prove it.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #132
calling it belief is not science KT2000 Apr 2014 #142
Like most medicine that originated before the scientific revolution, eridani Apr 2014 #77
Yeah, my point exactly. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #78
As long as acupuncture is used with real medicine, it is harmless AngryAmish Apr 2014 #24
Yes, they are... SidDithers Apr 2014 #25
It isn't "woo" it works! K&R nt snappyturtle Apr 2014 #27
I use acupuncture on the recommendation of one of the country's leading Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #29
The Knights Who Say Woo. Brilliant! Dragonfli Apr 2014 #73
The military has been using accupuncture for pain rocktivity Apr 2014 #30
I hope that health insurance doesn't Progressive dog Apr 2014 #32
As the OP points out, many actual physicians disagree with your great wisdom Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #35
Woo is woo, evidence says acupuncture Progressive dog Apr 2014 #41
Many physicians took out tonsils Progressive dog Apr 2014 #89
please post you research KT2000 Apr 2014 #50
Scientific research doesnt work that way. Progressive dog Apr 2014 #88
And clowns, for that matter cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #34
A commenter on another board, with a related thread asks the pertinent question... SidDithers Apr 2014 #36
Speaking as a recent cancer patient. TNNurse Apr 2014 #38
I found acupuncture worked better on back pain than pain meds Autumn Apr 2014 #39
Pnwmom, I have to disagree with you as I have been treated with acupunture AS PART Ecumenist Apr 2014 #40
I think you are really agreeing with me, if you reread my OP. pnwmom Apr 2014 #43
Oh okay, I am so sorry. I read it but not completely. I shouldn't have assumed that Ecumenist Apr 2014 #46
Maybe works for pain naturallyselected Apr 2014 #58
OH BULLSHIT. Only talk about what you know. Just because she went to someone who Ecumenist Apr 2014 #69
I try and offer a reasoned response and this is what I get... naturallyselected Apr 2014 #92
Yeah, well, I take offence to someone who has NO FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE Ecumenist Apr 2014 #114
Whenever I hear a pitch like this... Curmudgeoness Apr 2014 #42
I guess you should avoid Sloan-Kettering, then. pnwmom Apr 2014 #44
IT WORKS, Curmodgeness. I am a recipeint of this "cray-cray". IT IS NOT CRAZY Ecumenist Apr 2014 #47
When all else fails you can try anything not actively harmful intaglio Apr 2014 #45
There's prayer in hospitals too. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #49
Or the toilets. n/t Pathwalker Apr 2014 #62
I found that accupuncture did not, for me, work well enough nor long enough. PDJane Apr 2014 #51
So why does it fail every time in scientific tests? Archae Apr 2014 #52
NIH funded study: Acupuncture for Chronic Pain / Individual Patient Data Meta-analysis magical thyme Apr 2014 #55
Series of studies first to examine acupuncture's mechanisms of action magical thyme Apr 2014 #56
We use acupuncture with great effects on the horses. Animals can't manufacture a placebo response riderinthestorm Apr 2014 #91
Can Acupuncture Reverse Killer Inflammation? magical thyme Apr 2014 #57
So, the skeptics are either flat out wrong, don't know what they're Pathwalker Apr 2014 #61
An NIH funded meta-analysis of 29 studies involving 18,000 subjects pnwmom Apr 2014 #60
From what I remember the only problem with the studies is that you can't double blind Recursion Apr 2014 #81
You absolutely could do a double blind laundry_queen Apr 2014 #103
It doesn't. A meta-analysis of 29 studies including 18K patients showed pnwmom Apr 2014 #128
When did acupuncture start to be considered woo? ManiacJoe Apr 2014 #53
when people needed sonething Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #87
+1000...as a breast cancer survivor noiretextatique Apr 2014 #98
We need to send the DU "woo" police to these hospitals (n/t) a2liberal Apr 2014 #54
It is very important to differentiate the marketing information provided by health care centers ... etherealtruth Apr 2014 #65
I very nearly went deaf in one ear as a child because of woo. Marr Apr 2014 #75
What does that have to do with acupuncture, which is what the thread is about? nt Electric Monk Apr 2014 #94
The title of this thread references "woo", specifically. Marr Apr 2014 #110
Sounds like the doctor was a quack too laundry_queen Apr 2014 #106
To be perfectly honest with you, I was a little kid. Marr Apr 2014 #111
Cancer politicstahl Apr 2014 #76
They sure do. Iggo Apr 2014 #79
It has actual studies on pain relief. Which means it's not woo. Recursion Apr 2014 #80
I agree, but many DUers consider acupuncture to always be woo. pnwmom Apr 2014 #84
I personally consider much of western medicine to be woo arikara Apr 2014 #126
Do you run an acupuncture biz or something? nt Union Scribe Apr 2014 #86
If you don't believe in it, don't do it. The rest of us know better. Happyhippychick Apr 2014 #90
In other words, they let patients indulge in generally harmless placebos of their own choice... Silent3 Apr 2014 #109
Why wouldn't they? There is good money to be made in acupuncture. FarCenter Apr 2014 #115
Sure, because we give the DEA 60 billion a year to bully doctors into under-treating pain. Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #118
Top cancer hospitals across the country relieve their patients' of money with "woo." MattBaggins Apr 2014 #120
Then why should we trust them for any care, when they obviously pnwmom Apr 2014 #130
Has Science Finally Confirmed the Existence of Acupuncture Points, Validating Chinese Medicine? arikara Apr 2014 #127
fascinating! G_j Apr 2014 #135
Accupuncture: don't knock it if you haven't tried it flamingdem Apr 2014 #133
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