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Mariana

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124. Some of them really do hate smokers

Fri Apr 25, 2014, 10:57 AM

Apr 2014

so much that they'd prefer they continue to smoke, rather than quit without being miserable. Lots of former smokers thoroughly enjoy vaping. Some like it even more than they ever liked smoking. That just enrages those people. They want smokers to suffer, dammit - even after they've quit.

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FDA to begin regulating e-cigarettes [View all] nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 OP

I can't wait to see what they come up with for the "Health warnings" tridim Apr 2014 #1

Link to where the companies 'wanted to be treated as tabacco'? B2G Apr 2014 #2

if you are on an "iggy" list Sheepshank Apr 2014 #57

No, she can't see mine B2G Apr 2014 #60

The idea that a specific flavor is targeting children Egnever Apr 2014 #3

You and me both Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #7

Agree it's bullshit. zappaman Apr 2014 #9

Yeah, but using kids as a shield makes things more legit The Straight Story Apr 2014 #8

When the US slides into complete fascism Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #12

+100 nt Mojorabbit Apr 2014 #87

That pissed me off when some hack was on ABC this morning and made that argument joeglow3 Apr 2014 #90

Yeah, that part is just plain stupid Warpy Apr 2014 #152

Some regulation is fine Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #4

The flavoring of tobacco was forbidden for that reason nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #5

It was stupid then and it's stupid now Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #6

You might think it is stupid nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #13

Yes, the EU is also imposing stupid restrictions Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #16

That is why big tobacco is producing them, right nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #20

OK, I'll explain it Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #21

But they are producing them nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #25

I give up Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #28

I provided data nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #29

you cannot have a polite conversation here ProdigalJunkMail Apr 2014 #42

Uh oh! Off to the ignore list for you! FSogol Apr 2014 #48

i love her idea of ignore... ProdigalJunkMail Apr 2014 #67

I like when she responds to the people on ignore: FSogol Apr 2014 #70

Ah, didn't know that Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #50

eh... take it or leave it... ProdigalJunkMail Apr 2014 #68

I know, right? B2G Apr 2014 #89

You can never win this one energumen Apr 2014 #111

Big tobacco already owns Blue, which has a 49% market share. n/t pnwmom Apr 2014 #58

Of teh e-cigs sold in grocery stores, sure Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #61

Again with this BS Egnever Apr 2014 #63

I know one blu user and he still smokes a pack a day. I know lots of vapers, most use ego TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #120

I'm convinced the tobacco companies Mariana Apr 2014 #123

I've tried to get that point accross to the OP several times. Marr Apr 2014 #149

Except they did NOT ban the fun flavors for vape. So YAY!! PeaceNikki Apr 2014 #131

It doesn't matter jberryhill Apr 2014 #35

They don't want to understand Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #40

I think they are just hard core anti-smokers and they don't care one bit that it is helping people seaglass Apr 2014 #52

I can't remember who was posting them Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #55

I haven't been paying much attention but I thought it was the same 2 over and over. :-) n/t seaglass Apr 2014 #56

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #62

Onehandle, PNWmom, Nadin. We have three people on a weird crusade. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #128

i bought my first e-cig today, as a matter of fact. i sampled many of them in the shop, and the dionysus Apr 2014 #156

Some of them really do hate smokers Mariana Apr 2014 #124

Holy crap! Egnever Apr 2014 #64

Thanks dude Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #69

When I first started Egnever Apr 2014 #73

I smoked in bed anyway Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #75

I thought it was only me notadmblnd Apr 2014 #78

Awesome job. joeglow3 Apr 2014 #93

Thanks. Does the want ever go away? notadmblnd Apr 2014 #95

It has gotten a lot better joeglow3 Apr 2014 #98

Well, good luck during your stressful periods. notadmblnd Apr 2014 #102

drinking is the HARDEST time for quitting... dionysus Apr 2014 #151

Congratulations on your progress! /nt Marr Apr 2014 #150

You'll also tend to taper down over time Warpy Apr 2014 #153

Maybe we shoudl stop selling sweet alcohol B2G Apr 2014 #10

I think you're right. Mariana Apr 2014 #125

Cloves, Menthol and Mint aren't flavors? tridim Apr 2014 #14

Is this what passes for journalistic integrity these days? beevul Apr 2014 #30

hehehe... ProdigalJunkMail Apr 2014 #81

The flavoring of CIGARETTES was forbidden for that reason jmowreader Apr 2014 #138

There was only one bed Alan Selk Apr 2014 #140

So I imagined the lawsuit? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #141

once again, as is common, you speak of which you know nothing... dionysus Apr 2014 #148

do you like it? any tips on the rig to get? dionysus Apr 2014 #19

I love it Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #23

60 quid for that setup you linked to ain't bad mate! dionysus Apr 2014 #117

There are a lot of options... SomethingFishy Apr 2014 #26

eGo batteries are inexpensive and good for beginners LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #31

The protank mini is a little less intimidating for new users jberryhill Apr 2014 #36

or the EVOD. I was thinking function over form, lol n/t LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #41

I just ordered some eGo Twist variable voltage 1100mah batts... tridim Apr 2014 #44

Great choice Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #51

I have, but I wasn't as impressed by them as I've been with the IClear LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #80

Wickless, thumbs down so far. tridim Apr 2014 #136

I've Been Waiting RobinA Apr 2014 #132

Congrats! LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #133

I'm so happy pecwae Apr 2014 #135

I've been vaping for a month or so and have already ordered e-juice with less nicotine tridim Apr 2014 #137

i went with a vision spinner 1300 adjustable volt battery, and a kanger e-vod 2 coil tank. dionysus Apr 2014 #143

Good choice LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #157

Some tips Egnever Apr 2014 #32

i went with a vision spinner 1300 adjustable volt battery, and a kanger e-vod 2 coil tank. dionysus Apr 2014 #142

Nice! Egnever Apr 2014 #144

it tastes incredibly like a real cig... even coughed a few times. i tried out stuff for like 45 min. dionysus Apr 2014 #145

Really nice to have one so close Egnever Apr 2014 #146

the flavor i went with is tobacco but has a coffee hint to it... there were fruity flavors dionysus Apr 2014 #147

sounds like a good shop Egnever Apr 2014 #154

thank you! i am awaiting the new experience\challenge... and increased breathing capacity and less % dionysus Apr 2014 #155

so far so good, i'm diggin it... dionysus Apr 2014 #158

Look into the eGo, as well. Demit Apr 2014 #37

Happy with my Ego/CE5 pokerfan Apr 2014 #65

Looks very similar to my kit Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #74

is that a starter kit? How much do they run? notadmblnd Apr 2014 #96

Blister packs (w/ a battery, tank and charger) are $15-$25 each. tridim Apr 2014 #106

yeah, it was ~$50 pokerfan Apr 2014 #107

Thanks for the info notadmblnd Apr 2014 #108

The tank on the CE5 holds ~1.5 ml of liquid pokerfan Apr 2014 #109

I love that some of you folks call it a "rig." The exact perfect word for the mechanism I think. CBGLuthier Apr 2014 #110

My main is an itaste MVP I usually go with a metal viva nova but have a couple of glass kangers TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #112

thanks! dionysus Apr 2014 #116

If it comes to that Mariana Apr 2014 #122

On no! zappaman Apr 2014 #11

Would you still vap if the sweet flavor was taken out of all e cigarettes? Tikki Apr 2014 #15

Probably Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #17

I could not answer, I do not do it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #18

I have asthma and I occasionally vape laundry_queen Apr 2014 #22

Well the way I see it is, they companies sued to be treated like tobacco products nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #24

You keep spouting this, and it's not true B2G Apr 2014 #34

People keep repeating that as if the ecig business is some organized business collective Egnever Apr 2014 #39

The mom and pop websites Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #47

You keep saying "they," as if there is one giant monolith. Demit Apr 2014 #46

Becuase I am not the only one who has experienced that nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #49

Bad body odor and greasy hair smell always triggers my asthma laundry_queen Apr 2014 #85

And strong perfume B2G Apr 2014 #86

It's weird laundry_queen Apr 2014 #88

Yes, you very well may be. And it very well might be psychosomatic. Demit Apr 2014 #92

Well the FDA is about to regulate them nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #94

Yes, nicotine is an alkaloid, as is caffeine. Caffeine has cardiac effects too. Demit Apr 2014 #99

I just posted a RELEVANT news story nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #104

I don't need to put you on ignore. Demit Apr 2014 #113

Good, once again, I posted a news story from the LA Times nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #115

putting everyone on ignore is YOUR tactic ProdigalJunkMail Apr 2014 #118

To be fair, it "creative ignore" zappaman Apr 2014 #127

i stand corrected... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Apr 2014 #139

I bought two packages of cookies yesterday notadmblnd Apr 2014 #101

And this has to do with the price of tea in china how? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #103

It's good you're careful. Not all the flavorings are safe though, pnwmom Apr 2014 #59

Yes and most vapers are aware of Diacetyl. Those who create ejuice will disclose if they do or do seaglass Apr 2014 #72

But other companies continue to sell it. These regulations will now require pnwmom Apr 2014 #79

I wonder how they are going to do that and who are the producers. The B&M that I go to mixes seaglass Apr 2014 #84

Yes. Mariana Apr 2014 #126

Perfect. pretty much exactly what I wanted to see LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #27

They never stop at 'sensible'. nt B2G Apr 2014 #33

Sometimes the FDA does get it right. LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #38

I wish I shared your optimism Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #43

Wait for it B2G Apr 2014 #45

That's what worries me Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #53

I have no intention of waiting for it, believe me LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #82

But some people are still having cows over it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #54

They can try to ban it all they want, but they can't B2G Apr 2014 #83

I know, right? Demit Apr 2014 #97

Pretty soon they may go the way of real cigarettes... Historic NY Apr 2014 #66

"no safer"? Bullshit Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #71

Remember when some laptop batteries caused fires? BAN LAPTOPS! n/t seaglass Apr 2014 #76

Oxygen enriched atmosphere, heating element nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #91

Hope you don't own a cell phone then B2G Apr 2014 #100

Or Rollerblade Barbie FSogol Apr 2014 #105

No safer than what? nt B2G Apr 2014 #77

Start chewing... Historic NY Apr 2014 #114

Yeah, I'll support an e-cig ban when the same rules apply to chew. MindPilot Apr 2014 #121

any other heat source combined stupidly with oxygen TorchTheWitch Apr 2014 #119

Whats worst is spontaneous human combustion..... Historic NY Apr 2014 #129

Oh hell yeah TorchTheWitch Apr 2014 #130

A Spark RobinA Apr 2014 #134