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44. Of course I know about online fraud. Just how would having an internet 'driving license' stop that?

Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:23 PM

Apr 2014

We have ID#s for that , they are called IP #s. And how would they catch foreign crooks who are not required to have these ID#s? A great deal of internet fraud comes from overseas.

Since our government is spying on everyone already how will a drivers license give them anymore info than they are collecting anyhow??

And what will the FEES be? We KNOW this is about MONEY because everything always is.

All this would do is to force most people who are NOT criminals to pay for a service they don't need to pay for while the crooks will find ways around it. Iow only honest people will actually be honest about it. But the already obscenely wealthy will make a whole lot more money ONLY from honest people and I am willing to bet, just like the massive spying program supposed to 'catch terrorists' which has not we now know, no bad guys will be caught with this either. BECAUSE THAT ISN'T the goal. The goal is MONEY.

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The White House Wants to Issue You an Online ID - driver's license for the internet [View all] Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 OP

I already have one. House of Roberts Apr 2014 #1

Don't forget your devices MAC address cause the NSA sure hasn't Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #6

Spoof it Go Vols Apr 2014 #43

RFC1918 or RFC2460 snooper2 Apr 2014 #11

Oh Noes They Want to Give Everyone Number Of the BEAST! snooper2 Apr 2014 #2

I never realized how appropriate your username is until now. enlightenment Apr 2014 #3

I noted that quite a while ago. nt grasswire Apr 2014 #51

Say good bye to anonymity. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #4

So we are going to receive benefits with this ID#, you know, like SS, which btw has always been sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #10

I KNOW sabrina! and we NOW HAVE PROOF! You won't believe this, watch this video snooper2 Apr 2014 #13

Your sources are not very good. We have way better proof than that, thanks to Whistle Blowers sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #19

I don't believe we've had a democracy in my lifetime, LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #56

Seems that way. But during the Bush era I admit, I thought we had a democracy and all we had to do sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #95

HP printers are known for that n/t Holly_Hobby Apr 2014 #20

Someone is just learning about the EURion Constellation - this has been around almost 20 years whopis01 Apr 2014 #32

Your post already tells us what the trolls are going to do. villager Apr 2014 #12

LOL! City Lights Apr 2014 #14

... SammyWinstonJack Apr 2014 #17

Trolls will use SIP URI to their advantage! snooper2 Apr 2014 #33

Indeed, sometimes trolls double down. villager Apr 2014 #42

The next thing you know Mr.Bill Apr 2014 #71

Have been wanting to dump my computer CountAllVotes Apr 2014 #5

Um, it's not a rule, it's a pilot test program. randome Apr 2014 #9

See my post #68. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #69

Oh FUCK that. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #7

The identity ecosystem...YOU in a petri dish. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #8

This is an admission that the use of a password is a claim to privacy. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #73

your financial life, your medical history, your entertainment and business practices Supersedeas Apr 2014 #83

IMHO the point is widely misinterpreted jberryhill Apr 2014 #15

Check out the use cases above your post...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #16

I don't have a problem with the use cases jberryhill Apr 2014 #21

hardware based, issued by third parties, revokable at any time. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #24

Indeed it does jberryhill Apr 2014 #26

I have a problem with a single system imposed on me by the government Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #30

Right, so... jberryhill Apr 2014 #36

yeah duh. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #38

"use a RSA fob for really secure access" jberryhill Apr 2014 #48

Lulz...I get it your back to humor. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #50

Why do you prefer large corporations to the government? jberryhill Apr 2014 #53

I just want to say... SkyDaddy7 Apr 2014 #64

What astounds me is... jberryhill Apr 2014 #66

You do realize the back end of this system will be run by the government?..nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #94

It's voluntary. toddwv Apr 2014 #65

Does the clerk ever record your license ID number? A Simple Game Apr 2014 #75

Yeah.... jberryhill Apr 2014 #86

Nope. JoeyT Apr 2014 #88

However.... jberryhill Apr 2014 #91

So if you don't have the hardware, you don't participate. Sounds simple to me. randome Apr 2014 #27

In what the internet?...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #31

Right. A vendor that wants to purchase the hardware can require someone to use a secure ID. randome Apr 2014 #45

Unless you don't do your banking business online or can't because you don't have enough sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #22

Why do you suppose it is hard for me to imagine that? jberryhill Apr 2014 #23

What made you think I was referring to you? I don't know you from adam or your circumstances. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #28

"We don't NEED an internet ID" jberryhill Apr 2014 #34

So because there is fraud we should make the government the amazon one click of the internet. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #37

"the amazon one click of the internet" jberryhill Apr 2014 #39

I don't purchase alcohol on the internet, Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #41

Depends on your state jberryhill Apr 2014 #52

Of course I know about online fraud. Just how would having an internet 'driving license' stop that? sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #44

How soon before they revoke it cause you posted online and had your post hidden by a jury. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #35

Thread Winner!! demwing Apr 2014 #72

This sounds like a terrible idea. City Lights Apr 2014 #18

This from the folks that give us the NSA? Secure? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #25

More like the folks who built the ACA website....nt Jesus Malverde May 2014 #97

Wow, something else that we don't need, that they'd find a way to screw up NightWatcher Apr 2014 #29

We don't need it, but it's never about us. THEY will make lots of money though and that is sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #47

The horseshit involved in a TWIC card are why I'd oppose this. JoeyT Apr 2014 #90

The first question on everbody's mind ought to be -- Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #40

the second question should be which private contractor will the government choose,. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #46

Sounds like another corporate raid on the treasury. JEB Apr 2014 #58

For some reason they never seem to consider that. Shandris Apr 2014 #49

Nope deosnt sound scary Egnever Apr 2014 #54

Control Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #55

for better and for worse the "unrestrained by traditional values" hasn't played out MisterP Apr 2014 #76

This is a ploy to test the waters Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #89

This should help the identity thieves on a grand scale BuelahWitch Apr 2014 #57

Yeah, I prefer to remain anonymous online. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #59

Another day, another ugly, predatory betrayal. woo me with science Apr 2014 #60

And 5 minutes after issuance, it will be hacked. n2doc Apr 2014 #61

precisely steve2470 May 2014 #111

We have one too, but it's got a govt ID... jtuck004 Apr 2014 #62

OMG! This might even be used for online voting someday! MineralMan Apr 2014 #63

Then, I suppose... they will declare it a "privilege", like driving. AzDar Apr 2014 #67

What a stupid, expensive idea. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #68

That is not what this is. Read beyond the attention-getting headline. randome Apr 2014 #70

Yes. That is what this is. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #78

This is primarily for online transactions. The posts are all over this thread pointing it out. randome Apr 2014 #79

Let me put it to you this way. You know what Amazon Prime is? randome Apr 2014 #80

The (expected) propaganda is false. You are correct. The entire goal is to make it unavoidable. woo me with science Apr 2014 #84

Well, there's a song for that... MADem Apr 2014 #74

Yesterday's news, I'm afraid. Jerry442 Apr 2014 #77

When someone shows you who they are, believe them... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #81

Good God, an example of Infinite Hyperbole! randome Apr 2014 #82

Somewhat. What does Amazon Prime have to do with O's latest scheme? Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #85

They are very similar in nature. randome Apr 2014 #87

Facepalm Recursion May 2014 #102

So rather than Amazon monitoring what books and movies and porn I prefer... Demo_Chris May 2014 #106

You must be very glad we didn't get single payer Recursion May 2014 #107

Okay, you've tried equating this to Amazon and now single payer, it's neither... Demo_Chris May 2014 #109

Not just NO DJ13 Apr 2014 #92

Now that the cat is out of the bag, here is the rest of the story snooper2 Apr 2014 #93

I assume this was supposed to be humorous. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #99

We have something similar in South Korea agentS May 2014 #96

I'm in Korea as well davidpdx May 2014 #100

"generally off limits" Jesus Malverde May 2014 #101

Blocked davidpdx May 2014 #103

OMG A PUBLIC/PRIVATE KEY PAIR!!!!!!! Recursion May 2014 #98

According to Mikulski, a centralized system is VERY important for LAW ENFORCEMENT Pholus May 2014 #104

Stunning comments - as if they are lacking in size Jesus Malverde May 2014 #113

Sounds like another 1%er giveaway/taxpayer waste program like TSA's CLEAR program Pholus May 2014 #105

I'm against it. Enthusiast May 2014 #108

so, once the hacker criminals inevitably hack this.... steve2470 May 2014 #110

Remember back during the Dubya years when you could get arrested for wearing a Peace T shirt? Fumesucker May 2014 #112

Strange some people seem to welcome the security blanket of authoritarianism...nt Jesus Malverde May 2014 #114