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calimary

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81. Wish I could recommend this ONE MILLION TIMES!!!!!
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 12:14 PM
Mar 2012

This is the birthplace of the enemy - hate radio.

And yes, unfortunately, I've been driven to concluding republi-CONS are indeed the enemy. To think of them as anything less is to weaken before them. I'm so sick of Democratic naivete. We've seen it on display all week in the reaction to the way the Supreme Court clearly seems to be leaning. "They thought the ACA would sell itself..." "They thought the people would see..." "They thought the benefits of the health care reform would simply speak for themselves and that people would see how it benefited them."

UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!!!!!

HOW many times are our people in DC gonna stand there still, smiling, and presenting all their nice teeth for the bad guys to kick in, on the presumption that finally, at long last, some among them are gonna play nice? What are they smoking????? These bastards ARE the enemy. They ARE the bad guys. They've been planning, strategizing, engineering, and waging, a very effective propaganda battle against us for at least three decades, and we've done NOTHING to respond or counter-sell. I dunno - maybe our side thinks that the salesmanship part of this is beneath us somehow, and/or that somehow the enemy is really not all that bad or evil or pernicious. But the GOP assholes DO believe in bad things for our country because what they want only benefits the top 1% of the 1%, which is proven NOT to be of any help or any good or any benefit to anyone not part of the 1% corporate elites, and they've been VERY effective at selling their message.

On the other hand, we SUCK at it. Nobody realizes they should have hired George Lakoff years ago to help them understand messaging better, and PR better, and salesmanship better. Our side is fucking naive. Infuriatingly naive! You know there are ravenous sharks in the water but you figure they won't bite you so you jump in anyway - because you just KNOW they'd rather eat fish than humans. Yeah... sure. And I've got some nice ocean-front property in Topeka KS I'll sell you real cheap. You just trust that the scorpion that begged for help getting across that deep, wide river on your back will not sting you because he PROMISED so sincerely that he wouldn't! And then, EVERY TIME, one of yours gets halfway across and the scorpion does what scorpions do - stings. And then you're screwed. Doesn't even matter that the scorpion winds up drowning along with you. Didn't stop him from stinging you anyway because that's who he is and that's what he does. And to assume anything else is simply kidding yourselves.

The GOP are scorpions. That's just what they ARE. And they need to be treated as such, and reacted to as such. They must NEVER be trusted. EVER. They must ALWAYS be watched. ALWAYS. Because they are ALWAYS on the offensive and looking to tear down ANY progress the rest of us has made. If there are ANY among you here on DU who still blindly think they can be reached, met halfway, dealt with as reasonable adults, that they'll deal honestly and with no subterfuge and won't lie or deceive or distort or double-cross you as soon as eric cantor or paul ryan or grover norquist tells them to, or come around to our point of view, You. Are. Wasting. Your. Time.

My experiences and observations force me to conclude that they are lost souls who've been so co-opted by the fairy tale they keep pushing: "just keep voting for us and YOU'LL be rich TOO!!!" How else would so many unfortunate, hapless human sheep be convinced to continue voting against their own interests. They're being sold pie-in-the-sky and they've been so inundated with adverse but well-packaged and ubiquitous propaganda that they don't even think anymore. And then when they lose their homes and their insurance and their teabagger Congressman has nothing more for them than "gee, guess it sucks to be you," they're further inundated with more propaganda that it's really the Democrats'/liberals' fault.

When deregulation happened, and the richest of the bad guys started buying radio stations, what did our side do? Roll over and go back to sleep! NOTHING! Because they figured that - well, the GOP will play fair. They will! And there MUST be a pony under all that horse shit! No. Wake up and smell the coffee - and the horse shit. There IS no pony. There's only IGMFU. As in "I Got Mine, F-U."

And the saddest part, the part that breaks my heart and drives me freakin' NUTS, is that in many ways it actually IS the Dems'/liberals' collective fault. Because TOO MANY on our side were so naive, and figured their opponents are reasonable human beings, with hearts and consciences, who are there, honestly and genuinely, with good hearts trying to help people. AND THEY'RE NOT!!!! And our side keeps falling for it. Just grinds my guts!!!

They ARE the enemy. They ARE the bad guys. And if we don't start treating them as such, and dealing with them as such, we'll just keep getting rolled over and over and over and over. And I don't understand, after all the evidence to support this, WHY our side still doesn't get it. And I do not accept the argument that "oh, no, we can't do that - it makes us just like them!" BULLSHIT. Their ruthlessness keeps winning. And we keep getting rolled. HOW FAR are we willing to keep "making nice" while they monopolize the airwaves, take over the statehouses, jam voter-ID laws down our throats and metal probes up our vaginas? HOW LONG will this be allowed to go on before we start fighting back with the same cold-blooded ruthlessness that is now needed in EVERY political battle, no matter how small or local or seemingly insignificant? Have we not had at least 30 years of templates and examples to study about how the takeover is accomplished? Okay, have our guy at the top being the moral and ethical guy, but underneath and behind him we need our own ruthless take-no-prisoners warriors.

I think we have to readjust our thinking. EXPECT them to do bad things and DAMMIT, BE READY FOR IT AHEAD OF TIME!!! Maybe it takes hiring a few operatives who think like the enemy does, so we can out-think, outwit, and outflank them. Sounds like an old "Survivor" TV show, doesn't it? Well, take a lesson!!!

Remember what Mad-Eye Moody always warned Harry Potter: "CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!!!"

K&R. n/t FSogol Mar 2012 #1
Correct, ain't gonna happen. elleng Mar 2012 #2
"Public opinion has NEVER influenced what the Republicans do. Ever. " annabanana Mar 2012 #3
UNIONS; Collective Bargaining rights; Pensions; Civil Rights; PEACE...... lastlib Mar 2012 #16
Wish I could recommend your post 1000 times. Damn right. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2012 #4
... freshwest Mar 2012 #5
Obama is a better person than me. But he's telling the truth and aren't they howling! freshwest Apr 2012 #127
I don't agree with the term "enemy," but I strongly agree with the ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #6
I have in-laws that are Republican mercymechap Mar 2012 #53
i never make that mistake noiretextatique Mar 2012 #7
I agree, and even if the court just ruled against the mandate, the repukes will insure that nothing still_one Mar 2012 #8
"The enemy"? Really? MadHound Mar 2012 #9
You know exactly what I mean. TheWraith Mar 2012 #10
Given the tenor of your posting history, yes, I know exactly what that means. MadHound Mar 2012 #12
Care to elaborate on that? nt TheWraith Mar 2012 #13
It is difficult to have friends and family who are Republican. northoftheborder Mar 2012 #11
I'm sorry. It's the damned truth. backscatter712 Mar 2012 #25
So my elderly, sweet mother in law is a "deadly enemy"? MadHound Mar 2012 #32
Perhaps you should listen to yourself. Such apologia. Robb Mar 2012 #41
Counterpoint sudopod Mar 2012 #109
I don't think the OP is saying "enemy" like in "terrorists" although Republicans have mercymechap Mar 2012 #55
I don't know your mother-in-law, so I can't speak MineralMan Mar 2012 #95
what about the Nazi's Phlem Mar 2012 #39
Godwin's Law just kicked in LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2012 #46
Godwin's "law" is absolute bullshit... truebrit71 Mar 2012 #59
And many people believe nazi references derail a conversation rather than add to it... n/t A Simple Game Mar 2012 #61
no, it's a brilliant observation of lameness nt bart95 Mar 2012 #84
As is this reply... truebrit71 Mar 2012 #86
godwin's law applies only when cited bart95 Mar 2012 #87
It's total bollocks and a lame way to get out of an argument. truebrit71 Mar 2012 #92
there's only one way you can win this arguement bart95 Mar 2012 #100
I already have 'won'.... truebrit71 Mar 2012 #101
nope, you haven't bart95 Mar 2012 #102
Wow Phlem Mar 2012 #103
Oh quit being such a Nazi... truebrit71 Mar 2012 #107
...as does defending that lame-ass "law" truebrit71 Mar 2012 #106
no, i'm not going to godwin you bart95 Mar 2012 #108
Godwins ASS Phlem Mar 2012 #62
The OP is obviously referring to Republican politicians. nt CJCRANE Mar 2012 #56
Exactly! Wind Dancer Mar 2012 #71
Exactly! Phlem Mar 2012 #75
Thank you Madhound!! Puzzledtraveller Mar 2012 #104
I also have many Republican family and friends.. I dont necessarily blame them. DCBob Mar 2012 #118
Huh. Maybe you should have told Obama about that? kenny blankenship Mar 2012 #14
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #33
oh, I don't know newspeak Mar 2012 #37
PWNED Maven Mar 2012 #43
Recommend. I could not agree more. They've been my enemy for my entire life. Zorra Mar 2012 #15
Thank Jebus nauthiz Mar 2012 #17
Tell that to Abe Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt. C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Mar 2012 #18
Oversimplification: Neoma Mar 2012 #27
Yes, it is, officially. C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Mar 2012 #63
of course repugs weren't always the bad guys newspeak Mar 2012 #114
and Frederick Douglas n/t Puzzledtraveller Mar 2012 #105
So you have a problem with Dems trying to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat... ClassWarrior Mar 2012 #19
Only one poll ??? slipslidingaway Mar 2012 #20
Cheering on something the GOP wants is...I don't know. CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #21
So "give up Democrat losers?" ClassWarrior Mar 2012 #22
Get Dems in Congress. CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #76
VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC BALLOT be happy and sane again! xtraxritical Mar 2012 #28
I doubt that would make us happy and sane... Kablooie Mar 2012 #31
Hah, it won't matter unless tens of millions of Americans more does that n/t AZ Progressive Mar 2012 #90
never happen Phlem Mar 2012 #121
Today's republican politicians are the enemy. Completely agree. indivisibleman Mar 2012 #23
The fact is that the Republican Party made a deal with the devil at any cost to win. olegramps Mar 2012 #80
Where is anyone saying the republicans are our friends? It looks like you twisted things a bit robinlynne Mar 2012 #24
he gets the volume discount from the straw man factory kenny blankenship Mar 2012 #26
straw man factory - lol bart95 Mar 2012 #85
Methinks he's making this up MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #29
I cannot believe he filled up a page with this...eom Kolesar Mar 2012 #72
Enemies, yes and no DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #30
Agree 100% Doctor_J Mar 2012 #34
if you want to know what republicans are going to try to do turn on the radio certainot Mar 2012 #35
Wish I could recommend this ONE MILLION TIMES!!!!! calimary Mar 2012 #81
great rant!!! certainot Mar 2012 #91
We will fight for economic and social justice. libtodeath Mar 2012 #36
Enemies? davidthegnome Mar 2012 #38
Why don't you tell that to Obama. He's the one who cut the fucking deals with them. nt Poll_Blind Mar 2012 #40
I see where you're coming from. randome Mar 2012 #42
Many single payer people are actually closet communists tcaudilllg Mar 2012 #44
Or they're wishful thinkers who believe, "things have to get worse so they can get better." pnwmom Mar 2012 #45
Nader's attitude did not lead to 8 years of Bush. Election fraud, and Democrats who did not stand robinlynne Mar 2012 #78
Nader chose to campaign hardest in the swing states, and got 95,000 votes in Florida. pnwmom Mar 2012 #79
Gore won by a landslide. Nader had nothing to do with anything. robinlynne Mar 2012 #89
The problem there is several layers deep. YES, nader had that philosophy - the only way to calimary Mar 2012 #82
I agree that we don't know how to fight fire with fire. And John Kerry's response pnwmom Mar 2012 #88
Hey, Senator McCarthy! Did you know that our choices are not 'single payer' or 'what we Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #98
Not all Republicans are evil. Jamaal510 Mar 2012 #47
"We didn't know" is an old, lame excuse for Zorra Mar 2012 #51
Republicans are nothing more than spoiled little brats who pretend to care about you when it suits Pakid Mar 2012 #48
They may be the enemy, but that doesn't mean you're my friend. Maven Mar 2012 #49
you're right samsingh Mar 2012 #50
The only blessing I think will come from the Supreme Court claiming that the PPACA is mercymechap Mar 2012 #52
k&r... the mandate was their frickin' idea. spanone Mar 2012 #54
Thanks for the timely reminder Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #57
Amen! BumRushDaShow Mar 2012 #58
RepubliCons are a dangerous cult magic59 Mar 2012 #60
It appears you don't have a very diverse circle of friends. A Simple Game Mar 2012 #64
Modern Day Republicans and Conservatives are playing for Keeps and are at War with us. Homer12 Mar 2012 #65
SHHHH Phlem Mar 2012 #117
In a world of scarcity sulphurdunn Mar 2012 #66
Wow ... Dead and Spot On! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #67
Never did, never will Aerows Mar 2012 #68
thank you. Phlem Mar 2012 #122
Don't thank me Aerows Apr 2012 #123
So my husband is the enemy? Seeking Serenity Mar 2012 #69
Yes He Is TheMastersNemesis Mar 2012 #94
+1 Phlem Mar 2012 #116
Never in my adult life... Orrex Mar 2012 #70
I hear ya Phlem Mar 2012 #115
K & R! Wind Dancer Mar 2012 #73
Harumph harumph harumph progressoid Mar 2012 #74
Nope, never make that error. No bipartisanship nonsense, none of their counter productive policies, TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #77
the greatest mistake you can make in thinking bart95 Mar 2012 #83
Oh, yes. randome Mar 2012 #93
you are describing the republican base. Phlem Mar 2012 #112
i meant it without qualification bart95 Mar 2012 #119
I mostly agree with you Phlem Mar 2012 #120
Of course the GOP is always the enemy. Now the President spent many months telling us Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #96
Honey, the REPUBLICANS had better not mistake ME for anything but the Enemy LaydeeBug Mar 2012 #97
I distrust the GOP almost as much as... LanternWaste Mar 2012 #99
You...I like you. nt sudopod Mar 2012 #111
Such black and white thinking is painful to watch. sudopod Mar 2012 #110
yes until Phlem Mar 2012 #113
Your experience is not unique. sudopod Apr 2012 #125
we don't discuss politics in our family much anymore rppper Apr 2012 #124
Same here Phlem Apr 2012 #126
Before they destroyed manufacturing, there was a need for Republicans... Pedalpower Apr 2012 #128
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