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In reply to the discussion: Fox News host: ‘Feminism is to blame’ when boys do poorly in school [View all]davidn3600
(6,342 posts)78. The fact you care so little about the other gender is a bit alarming...
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young sang that we should teach our children well and feed them of our dreams, but for millions of parents of sons, dreams are only that, and boys are falling behind educationally at an alarming rate in this country. Richard Whitmire, author of Why Boys Fail, Michael Gurian, author of The Minds of Boys: Saving Our Sons from Falling Behind in School and in Life, and many other authors and educational experts proclaim that we have a crisis in the education of boys in this country. The media attention to this topic has been extensive in recent years, yet I do not see the systemic changes that are needed.
Gurian's book presents statistics that boys get the majority of D's and F's in most schools, create 90 percent of the discipline problems, are four times more likely than girls to be diagnosed with ADHD and be medicated, account for three out of four children diagnosed learning disabilities, become 80 percent of the high school dropouts, and now make up less than 45 percent of the college population. If you look in your newspaper right now, in June, you will see the photos and bios of valedictorians from many of your local high schools, and will notice that the majority of them these days are girls.
According to Whitmire, children are forced to use literacy skills much earlier than in the past, and boys develop these skills later than girls. In the world of "Kindergarten is the new first grade," boys are struggling mightily to keep up. When it comes to writing, the gender divide is even greater. NCLB and our hyper-focus on standardized test scores is worsening, not ameliorating, the academic struggles of boys, and subsequently increasing the numbers of boys who turn off to school and eventually drop out.
According to Gurian, boys learn by doing and by moving their bodies through space. The more emphasis is placed on the development of early reading skills, and the less emphasis is placed on a healthy amount of movement and experiential learning, the more disadvantageous our schools will be for males.
Our boys need our attention, and although some of what I'm about to write pertains to girls as well as boys, and although gender differences naturally fall across a continuum and no single description fits all boys or all girls, there are nonetheless a number of characteristics that differentiate the two genders generally speaking.
Gurian's book presents statistics that boys get the majority of D's and F's in most schools, create 90 percent of the discipline problems, are four times more likely than girls to be diagnosed with ADHD and be medicated, account for three out of four children diagnosed learning disabilities, become 80 percent of the high school dropouts, and now make up less than 45 percent of the college population. If you look in your newspaper right now, in June, you will see the photos and bios of valedictorians from many of your local high schools, and will notice that the majority of them these days are girls.
According to Whitmire, children are forced to use literacy skills much earlier than in the past, and boys develop these skills later than girls. In the world of "Kindergarten is the new first grade," boys are struggling mightily to keep up. When it comes to writing, the gender divide is even greater. NCLB and our hyper-focus on standardized test scores is worsening, not ameliorating, the academic struggles of boys, and subsequently increasing the numbers of boys who turn off to school and eventually drop out.
According to Gurian, boys learn by doing and by moving their bodies through space. The more emphasis is placed on the development of early reading skills, and the less emphasis is placed on a healthy amount of movement and experiential learning, the more disadvantageous our schools will be for males.
Our boys need our attention, and although some of what I'm about to write pertains to girls as well as boys, and although gender differences naturally fall across a continuum and no single description fits all boys or all girls, there are nonetheless a number of characteristics that differentiate the two genders generally speaking.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lori-day/why-boys-are-failing-in-a_b_884262.html
But feminists say all this is meaningless because of the pay gap.
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Fox News host: ‘Feminism is to blame’ when boys do poorly in school [View all]
YoungDemCA
May 2014
OP
My mother was fairly Liberal for her day, but I remember when she told me she wasn't
Tikki
May 2014
#1
She had no problem announcing each of my brothers' IQ results. She truly didn't want to upset them.
Tikki
May 2014
#27
That is such utter bullshit on so many levels - and sadly many people believe it
groundloop
May 2014
#2
this feminist has never allowed my two boys to make excuses for them choosing not to work. put in
seabeyond
May 2014
#3
I think we all want to know if we can liberally steal the phrase "lady-hating idiots."
Squinch
May 2014
#31
So pointing out that schools are failing boys makes one a "lady-hating idiot"?
Major Nikon
May 2014
#38
Our schools also place more emphasis on boys in sports than they do girls. Could it be that boys
jwirr
May 2014
#9
point surreal. i will also suggest they are being hit hard with... boys are suppose to be proud of
seabeyond
May 2014
#12
Education is failing boys and those feminists who don't care ARE part of the problem. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#16
No. Parents work within an educational system in which 80% of teachers are women.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#22
when did you sign your boys over to the school. cause i NEVER did. not only did i make that clear
seabeyond
May 2014
#23
so this would be a change over decades/centuries past how? teachers in the lower grades have
TheFrenchRazor
May 2014
#67
i'm 48, and yes, some things have changed, mostly due to the hysteria over school shootings;
TheFrenchRazor
May 2014
#108
Then why are boys doing better in school than they have at any point in the past?
Recursion
May 2014
#105
Yours is the exact counterargument that the 1% use about wealth inequality.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#112
Tantaros and Kilmeade deserve each other. They are both horrid, horrid people.
Comrade Grumpy
May 2014
#19
Maybe boys know they don't need to work as hard because they'll make more money after
Squinch
May 2014
#32
The reasons can be debated, but the statistics is showing a problem with boys and education
davidn3600
May 2014
#42
Why compare to women. Are more men getting more degrees than the past? Yes. That has nothing to do
seabeyond
May 2014
#44
So your sources are the AEI and an "education consultant" who gets rich kids into rich kid colleges?
LeftyMom
May 2014
#79
How about several teachers and personal experience with the education system??
davidn3600
May 2014
#81
ALERTER'S COMMENTS- These charts are materials generated by the AEI, a conservative right wing think
Iris
May 2014
#138
No, it's not. it's not ridiculous for people who have been here for a while, played by the rules,
Iris
May 2014
#143
Gosh, I hope the number of posters rushing to agree with Fox news gets the attention of DU's owners.
Starry Messenger
May 2014
#87
Reading some of the responses here *almost* makes me regret posting this thread
YoungDemCA
May 2014
#94
all thru the school years of my boys, i watched excuses made for boys that did not do well.
seabeyond
May 2014
#96
who brought up hitler but you. and ya.... i take this seriously. our boys. and our boys education
seabeyond
May 2014
#101
Acknowledging the problem and demanding attention to it isn't "hurting our boys"
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#111
further jeff, it is a good thing that i did not buy into this crap. selling my boys short. seeing
seabeyond
May 2014
#103
feminsts who care about equality should force boys to study, and men to go to doctors to use the
bettyellen
May 2014
#139
Feminists who don't care about the well being of boys and men shouldn't hide behind "equality".
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#144
"equality for me" is an oxymoron. Equality for me *demands* equality for you.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#147
of course they are. and that does not seem to matter. it is all about the fact girls, once given
seabeyond
May 2014
#102
If my gender made .70 for every dollar the other one did, I'd work harder in school too
Hippo_Tron
May 2014
#128