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In reply to the discussion: Fox News host: ‘Feminism is to blame’ when boys do poorly in school [View all]lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)109. This is not success.
What Challenges Are Boys Facing and What Opportunities Exist to Address those Challenges?
In Brief:
Facts About How Boys Are Doing
Theres both good news and bad news about how boys in America are faring.
Boys are doing better than they did a decade or more ago across a variety of indicators, including juvenile justice involvement, dropout rates, and substance use.
Today, boys commit fewer property crimes, such as burglary, car theft, and arson, than they did in the late 1980s.(1)
Boys smoking rates are lower today than in the mid- to late 1990s. Their drinking rates have also declined.(2)
Since 1995, boys dropout rates have fallen.(3)
Between 1994 and 2004, fewer boys between the ages of 10 and 18 have died each year.(4) (Boys are most often killed in accidents, such as car crashes, followed by homicide and suicide.)
Boys are using their time constructively: One study found that nearly half of high school senior boys play a sport, more than a quarter take part in community affairs or volunteer at least once or twice per month, more than a quarter are part of a school club or activity, and about one-fifth play music or do other performing arts.(5)
A greater percentage of high school senior boys volunteered their time in 2006 than in the early 1990s.(6)
However, boys are still facing challenges in many areas:
In 2004, almost three-quarters of young people prosecuted in juvenile courts were boys.(7) Their most common law-violating behaviors were vandalism, theft, and assault.(8)
From 1997 to 2003, around 85 percent of all juveniles in residential placement were boys.(9)
More than 1 out of every 8 tenth grade boys surveyed in 2006 had smoked at least one cigarette in the previous month.(10)
About 1 in every 6 eighth grade boys surveyed in 2006 had drunk alcohol in the previous month.(11)
Nearly 40 percent of twelfth grade boys surveyed in 2006 had used illegal drugs in the past year.(12)
While adolescent boys report depression less frequently than girls, depressed boys are more resistant to treatment and more likely to commit suicide.(13)
While overall dropout rates have declined, in 2004, boys still represented over half (56 percent) of school dropouts ages 16 to 24.(14)
Almost twice as many boys as girls ages 3 to 17 have been diagnosed with ADHD.(15)
The employment rate for high school boys between the ages of 16 and 18 dropped from 33 percent in the 1995-1996 school year to 25 percent in the 2003-2004 school year.(16)
In 2006, 7 percent of boys were out of school and unemployed.(17)
A boy is more likely to be a victim of a serious violent crime, such as assault, robbery, and homicide, as he gets older: 15- to 19-year-old boys are much more often victims of those crimes than are 10- to 14-year-old boys.(18),(19)
Research also shows that specific subpopulations of boys are experiencing particular struggles:
From 1995 through 2005, American Indian/Alaska Native boys ages 10 to 18 consistently had higher rates of suicide and death by motor vehicle crashes than White, African American, and Hispanic boys.(20)
In 2004, the homicide rate for African American teen boys was 55 per 100,000. Thats more than double the homicide rate for Hispanic boys, nearly 4 times the rate for American Indian boys, and nearly 20 times the rate for non-Hispanic White boys.(21)
Although racial disparity in the juvenile justice system is declining, the violent crime arrest rate for African American juveniles was still four times that of White juveniles in 2003.(22)
African American and Hispanic adolescents have improved their performance on standardized tests over the last 20 years; however, their achievement continues to be lower than that of their White peers.(23)
In 2004, 7 percent of White adolescents ages 16 to 24 were high school dropouts, compared with 12 percent of African American adolescents and 24 percent of Hispanic adolescents.(24)
Incarceration rates for African American male high school dropouts more than doubled between 1980 and 1999.(25)
In 2005, 49 percent of Hispanic males, 47 percent of White males, and 30 percent of African American males in high school had at least one drink of alcohol within 30 days of being surveyed.(26)
Facts About How Boys Are Doing
Theres both good news and bad news about how boys in America are faring.
Boys are doing better than they did a decade or more ago across a variety of indicators, including juvenile justice involvement, dropout rates, and substance use.
Today, boys commit fewer property crimes, such as burglary, car theft, and arson, than they did in the late 1980s.(1)
Boys smoking rates are lower today than in the mid- to late 1990s. Their drinking rates have also declined.(2)
Since 1995, boys dropout rates have fallen.(3)
Between 1994 and 2004, fewer boys between the ages of 10 and 18 have died each year.(4) (Boys are most often killed in accidents, such as car crashes, followed by homicide and suicide.)
Boys are using their time constructively: One study found that nearly half of high school senior boys play a sport, more than a quarter take part in community affairs or volunteer at least once or twice per month, more than a quarter are part of a school club or activity, and about one-fifth play music or do other performing arts.(5)
A greater percentage of high school senior boys volunteered their time in 2006 than in the early 1990s.(6)
However, boys are still facing challenges in many areas:
In 2004, almost three-quarters of young people prosecuted in juvenile courts were boys.(7) Their most common law-violating behaviors were vandalism, theft, and assault.(8)
From 1997 to 2003, around 85 percent of all juveniles in residential placement were boys.(9)
More than 1 out of every 8 tenth grade boys surveyed in 2006 had smoked at least one cigarette in the previous month.(10)
About 1 in every 6 eighth grade boys surveyed in 2006 had drunk alcohol in the previous month.(11)
Nearly 40 percent of twelfth grade boys surveyed in 2006 had used illegal drugs in the past year.(12)
While adolescent boys report depression less frequently than girls, depressed boys are more resistant to treatment and more likely to commit suicide.(13)
While overall dropout rates have declined, in 2004, boys still represented over half (56 percent) of school dropouts ages 16 to 24.(14)
Almost twice as many boys as girls ages 3 to 17 have been diagnosed with ADHD.(15)
The employment rate for high school boys between the ages of 16 and 18 dropped from 33 percent in the 1995-1996 school year to 25 percent in the 2003-2004 school year.(16)
In 2006, 7 percent of boys were out of school and unemployed.(17)
A boy is more likely to be a victim of a serious violent crime, such as assault, robbery, and homicide, as he gets older: 15- to 19-year-old boys are much more often victims of those crimes than are 10- to 14-year-old boys.(18),(19)
Research also shows that specific subpopulations of boys are experiencing particular struggles:
From 1995 through 2005, American Indian/Alaska Native boys ages 10 to 18 consistently had higher rates of suicide and death by motor vehicle crashes than White, African American, and Hispanic boys.(20)
In 2004, the homicide rate for African American teen boys was 55 per 100,000. Thats more than double the homicide rate for Hispanic boys, nearly 4 times the rate for American Indian boys, and nearly 20 times the rate for non-Hispanic White boys.(21)
Although racial disparity in the juvenile justice system is declining, the violent crime arrest rate for African American juveniles was still four times that of White juveniles in 2003.(22)
African American and Hispanic adolescents have improved their performance on standardized tests over the last 20 years; however, their achievement continues to be lower than that of their White peers.(23)
In 2004, 7 percent of White adolescents ages 16 to 24 were high school dropouts, compared with 12 percent of African American adolescents and 24 percent of Hispanic adolescents.(24)
Incarceration rates for African American male high school dropouts more than doubled between 1980 and 1999.(25)
In 2005, 49 percent of Hispanic males, 47 percent of White males, and 30 percent of African American males in high school had at least one drink of alcohol within 30 days of being surveyed.(26)
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Fox News host: ‘Feminism is to blame’ when boys do poorly in school [View all]
YoungDemCA
May 2014
OP
My mother was fairly Liberal for her day, but I remember when she told me she wasn't
Tikki
May 2014
#1
She had no problem announcing each of my brothers' IQ results. She truly didn't want to upset them.
Tikki
May 2014
#27
That is such utter bullshit on so many levels - and sadly many people believe it
groundloop
May 2014
#2
this feminist has never allowed my two boys to make excuses for them choosing not to work. put in
seabeyond
May 2014
#3
I think we all want to know if we can liberally steal the phrase "lady-hating idiots."
Squinch
May 2014
#31
So pointing out that schools are failing boys makes one a "lady-hating idiot"?
Major Nikon
May 2014
#38
Our schools also place more emphasis on boys in sports than they do girls. Could it be that boys
jwirr
May 2014
#9
point surreal. i will also suggest they are being hit hard with... boys are suppose to be proud of
seabeyond
May 2014
#12
Education is failing boys and those feminists who don't care ARE part of the problem. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#16
No. Parents work within an educational system in which 80% of teachers are women.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#22
when did you sign your boys over to the school. cause i NEVER did. not only did i make that clear
seabeyond
May 2014
#23
so this would be a change over decades/centuries past how? teachers in the lower grades have
TheFrenchRazor
May 2014
#67
i'm 48, and yes, some things have changed, mostly due to the hysteria over school shootings;
TheFrenchRazor
May 2014
#108
Then why are boys doing better in school than they have at any point in the past?
Recursion
May 2014
#105
Yours is the exact counterargument that the 1% use about wealth inequality.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#112
Tantaros and Kilmeade deserve each other. They are both horrid, horrid people.
Comrade Grumpy
May 2014
#19
Maybe boys know they don't need to work as hard because they'll make more money after
Squinch
May 2014
#32
The reasons can be debated, but the statistics is showing a problem with boys and education
davidn3600
May 2014
#42
Why compare to women. Are more men getting more degrees than the past? Yes. That has nothing to do
seabeyond
May 2014
#44
So your sources are the AEI and an "education consultant" who gets rich kids into rich kid colleges?
LeftyMom
May 2014
#79
How about several teachers and personal experience with the education system??
davidn3600
May 2014
#81
ALERTER'S COMMENTS- These charts are materials generated by the AEI, a conservative right wing think
Iris
May 2014
#138
No, it's not. it's not ridiculous for people who have been here for a while, played by the rules,
Iris
May 2014
#143
Gosh, I hope the number of posters rushing to agree with Fox news gets the attention of DU's owners.
Starry Messenger
May 2014
#87
Reading some of the responses here *almost* makes me regret posting this thread
YoungDemCA
May 2014
#94
all thru the school years of my boys, i watched excuses made for boys that did not do well.
seabeyond
May 2014
#96
who brought up hitler but you. and ya.... i take this seriously. our boys. and our boys education
seabeyond
May 2014
#101
Acknowledging the problem and demanding attention to it isn't "hurting our boys"
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#111
further jeff, it is a good thing that i did not buy into this crap. selling my boys short. seeing
seabeyond
May 2014
#103
feminsts who care about equality should force boys to study, and men to go to doctors to use the
bettyellen
May 2014
#139
Feminists who don't care about the well being of boys and men shouldn't hide behind "equality".
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#144
"equality for me" is an oxymoron. Equality for me *demands* equality for you.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#147
of course they are. and that does not seem to matter. it is all about the fact girls, once given
seabeyond
May 2014
#102
If my gender made .70 for every dollar the other one did, I'd work harder in school too
Hippo_Tron
May 2014
#128