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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]randome
(34,845 posts)77. I'm sure many of you remember this subthread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022583041#post69
It's the one where I told my daughters that they were free to be topless in our house if they wanted.
But you wouldn't know what came after. My daughters don't hold anything back. They mentioned our discussion to their mother, who had a fit. She 'complained' to a therapist my daughters were seeing. (Post-divorce issues, some anxiety and teenage angst).
I hadn't known this therapist (let's call her M) bragged about her Christian approach to matters. If I had, I would never have given my permission for my daughters to see her. My attorney, btw, once ran into her in the courtroom and calls her a 'moron'. And another word I won't mention since it was said in the heat of the moment.
Anyways, I dutifully went in to see M and my ex when called to do so regarding 'matters to discuss'.
M went on about how my behavior was a risk and that sex should only be between two committed, loving individuals. She also said that a daughter parading in front of her father was the definition of incest.
Well, never mind that my daughters have never 'paraded' in front of me and will never do so, I later looked up the definition of incest for our state and she simply lied.
Throughout this bizarre 'ambush conversation', I kept my cool and M began to raise her voice, at times being unable to even meet my eyes. It was the most glorious 'battle' with a fundamentalist I have ever engaged in. And why I will always maintain that the best way to deal with these people is to stay cool and state the facts rather than lash out.
It ended with M saying she might have no choice but to report me to CPS. My response: "You do what you think is right. I have nothing to hide and nothing to be embarrassed about." Oh, she was livid and it was beautiful!
She did report me to CPS, who interviewed my daughters then me. We had a good chuckle over the phone about my ex's antics and that was the end of it.
My point in relating this is that some seem to automatically assume the worst regarding these pictures. All too often that's the result of seeing things through the filter of a manual instead of looking at things realistically. The real world usually doesn't relate well to a book of procedures.
And I think this entire broohaha is nonsense. Always, of course, absent evidence of abuse or neglect. But since there is none, it is what it is -some pictures. Nothing else.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]
It's the one where I told my daughters that they were free to be topless in our house if they wanted.
But you wouldn't know what came after. My daughters don't hold anything back. They mentioned our discussion to their mother, who had a fit. She 'complained' to a therapist my daughters were seeing. (Post-divorce issues, some anxiety and teenage angst).
I hadn't known this therapist (let's call her M) bragged about her Christian approach to matters. If I had, I would never have given my permission for my daughters to see her. My attorney, btw, once ran into her in the courtroom and calls her a 'moron'. And another word I won't mention since it was said in the heat of the moment.
Anyways, I dutifully went in to see M and my ex when called to do so regarding 'matters to discuss'.
M went on about how my behavior was a risk and that sex should only be between two committed, loving individuals. She also said that a daughter parading in front of her father was the definition of incest.
Well, never mind that my daughters have never 'paraded' in front of me and will never do so, I later looked up the definition of incest for our state and she simply lied.
Throughout this bizarre 'ambush conversation', I kept my cool and M began to raise her voice, at times being unable to even meet my eyes. It was the most glorious 'battle' with a fundamentalist I have ever engaged in. And why I will always maintain that the best way to deal with these people is to stay cool and state the facts rather than lash out.
It ended with M saying she might have no choice but to report me to CPS. My response: "You do what you think is right. I have nothing to hide and nothing to be embarrassed about." Oh, she was livid and it was beautiful!
She did report me to CPS, who interviewed my daughters then me. We had a good chuckle over the phone about my ex's antics and that was the end of it.
My point in relating this is that some seem to automatically assume the worst regarding these pictures. All too often that's the result of seeing things through the filter of a manual instead of looking at things realistically. The real world usually doesn't relate well to a book of procedures.
And I think this entire broohaha is nonsense. Always, of course, absent evidence of abuse or neglect. But since there is none, it is what it is -some pictures. Nothing else.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]
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And then let's jump to the assumption that all 20 year old males will act upon it...
blueamy66
May 2014
#42
You do know women and girls get raped in all sort of situations, don't you? Sleeping in bed at night
uppityperson
May 2014
#67
I don't understand your point, how does this have anything to do with rape culture? nt.
polly7
May 2014
#86
there wasn't anything in that picture that suggested they were "in bed" together....
VanillaRhapsody
May 2014
#15
Publicly claiming ownership of a young girl's hymen until it is formally transfered to the new owner
arcane1
May 2014
#44
Did the whole purity ball paranoia thing jump across the aisle to democrats while I was napping?
JVS
May 2014
#37
I think we already have a couple all men are rapist threads going, maybe you should have posted that
dilby
May 2014
#39
Females need to be controlled because men can't control their animalistic impulses
jberryhill
May 2014
#51
Hyperbole. "Hi Mois, I love you but I don't want you lying down next to my daughter.
fried eggs
May 2014
#59
You have outdone yourself this time. That was difficult. Congratulations. eom
uppityperson
May 2014
#69
Maybe you shouldn't allow a 20 year old man to "hang around" with a 20 year old girl, either.
hughee99
May 2014
#71
are you compelled to have sex with 13 year-olds by merely being in their presence?
frylock
May 2014
#82