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Scootaloo

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48. I've always read the Serpent as a hero in the story

Reply to Ghost in the Machine (Reply #46)

Sat May 10, 2014, 04:23 AM

May 2014

Certainly a Promethean figure who delivered knowledge and wisdom to humanity, albeit at the cost of peace and idyllic comfort... but that's just what knowledge - adulthood, in metaphor - brings. Wisdom requires some suffering.

...But then I also understood Judas as a hero as well, as without his actions, mankind would not have been saved by the sacrifice of Jesus - and Jesus clearly knew it and seems to have set it up with Judas... whose crime was doubt, not betrayal; he killed himself in grief. Which is a sort of Orphic take; not trusting the one he loved to return to him from the underworld, he doubts and looks over his shoulder...

Along with my abhorrence at the very notion of "original sin" - the concept the whole rigamarole is built around - I've always really, really sucked at being a Christian. I tried, i tried really, really hard. it just never worked.

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The "Forbidden Fruit" was from the "Tree of Knowledge". Adam and Eve were kept in the "Garden Ghost in the Machine May 2014 #46

I've always read the Serpent as a hero in the story Scootaloo May 2014 #48

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