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nadinbrzezinski

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14. You might want to read this

Fri May 16, 2014, 11:17 PM

May 2014

http://www.whitehouse.gov/energy/climate-change

This

http://www.whitehouse.gov/share/climate-action-plan

This

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/05/140516-san-diego-fires-climate-change-california/

and this

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fires-fuel-climate-change/

Just for starters. That was one of the most

worthy question I have read in a long time. But I fear I cannot say anything that might make sense to you.

Of course a study on fire behavior, relationship with humidity levels, winds and temps perhaps is also in order. And how those are a changing pattern from a September-October pattern to a year round pattern. I suggest you go ask Chair Dianne Jacob what she meant with those comments in repeated pressers.

Very few fire fighters deny it anymore, but they deal with it every day.

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A question on climate change [View all] nadinbrzezinski May 2014 OP

It's indeed possible that climate change may have had an (indirect) effect on the wildfires......... AverageJoe90 May 2014 #1

Saw yesterday that Rubio's taking flak for his climate change denial, Benton D Struckcheon May 2014 #2

The more fires you show deniers, the more they double down on their obstinacy. immoderate May 2014 #3

Plus anything that hurts Californians is seen as good for them.... Swede Atlanta May 2014 #4

Winner winner chicken dinner rufus dog May 2014 #22

Nadin, I think that people by and large are still looking at these events from the in my back yard jwirr May 2014 #5

That'll start happening very soon. Benton D Struckcheon May 2014 #6

Yes, and I think it is already showing up in some foods. We are still getting most of the foods but jwirr May 2014 #7

Oh fully agree nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #9

Well said malaise May 2014 #59

Many in this country did not even know about the droughts in Australia because our MSM does not jwirr May 2014 #60

Trust me, I know nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #64

There may be a new El Ni�o pscot May 2014 #8

The advanced patterns... gave me flashbacks nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #34

Nine fires in one day in a definite pattern, and you call it global warming. Dreamer Tatum May 2014 #10

need a long term Niceguy1 May 2014 #42

Um, the fires happened because there were fire *conditions* villager May 2014 #52

Yes, I see it now. Scientists DID predict Dreamer Tatum May 2014 #57

In your world of bitter snark, perhaps the arsonists work on rainy days villager May 2014 #61

Belief without critical examination is better known as religion. Dreamer Tatum May 2014 #66

And you have absolute faith in your wrong-headedness and mean-spiritedness villager May 2014 #67

One city, one day, nine wildfires. Dreamer Tatum May 2014 #68

Absolutely made possible by the spreading of dry, droughty, fire-prone conditions villager May 2014 #69

No question that it was and is very very very very dry. Dreamer Tatum May 2014 #71

Of course. No one's saying the pattern doesn't indicate arson. But we've always had arson villager May 2014 #72

As long as money controls legislation we won't do very much as a nation on this issue Johonny May 2014 #11

Partially right nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #12

How does this point to climate change? rudolph the red May 2014 #13

You might want to read this nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #14

Ridiculous rudolph the red May 2014 #15

Translation, I got nothing and I am standing with THIS GUY nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #16

You are making shit up and blaming it on everyone else rudolph the red May 2014 #19

If you have no idea how Sept-Oct weather patterns in May nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #20

Does biggest drought in recorded history for California ring a bell? nt laundry_queen May 2014 #21

Let's be fair, last 500 years nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #26

So let me get straight... nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #36

Then why isn't LA on fire? Fresno? Palm Springs? Dreamer Tatum May 2014 #58

Let's exaggerate the consequences of wind energy and try to turn public opinion against it! kristopher May 2014 #17

Let's pick and choose science, as we see fit nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #18

are you just a fanatic? rudolph the red May 2014 #23

I suggest you educate yourself nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #24

Did climate change cause the arsonist? rudolph the red May 2014 #25

Again, winds, humidity, and rapid rate of spread nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #27

California has never had a drought before rudolph the red May 2014 #29

Well, they are *more freqeunt and severe* as well nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #31

Read (and understand a book) a freaking book rudolph the red May 2014 #33

Sigh. No, climate change produced the environment for large brush fires by possible arsonists. haele May 2014 #73

By the way, I am not exagerating by citing actual documentation nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #32

Got a few.. well, more than a few minutes to spare? Bigmack May 2014 #28

The Climate National Assestment was a depressive read nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #30

You may have read it, but you didn't comprehend anything. rudolph the red May 2014 #35

Says the one who keeps personally attacking me nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #37

show me the personal attack rudolph the red May 2014 #38

There are plenty sir nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #40

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For quoting science? nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #44

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Thank to some - edgineered May 2014 #39

I can't address San Diego, but my rural Northern California area totally gets it Brother Buzz May 2014 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author rudolph the red May 2014 #46

Well, climate change is real SheilaT May 2014 #47

The issue is not with deliberately set nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #50

Many Americans will never get it. laundry_queen May 2014 #48

Yeah, but your neighbors to the south nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #56

as long as supposedly intelligent u.s. senators call it the greatest hoax.... spanone May 2014 #49

Yup, because they have politiced science nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #51

kick, kick, kick..... daleanime May 2014 #53

Excellent thread. K&R Louisiana1976 May 2014 #55

I don't think Californians are the ones doing most of the denying. Jamastiene May 2014 #62

The denial is all over. nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #63

American's won't get it until the arctic sea ice is gone for a few years. joshcryer May 2014 #65

Space mirrors would buy us some time. Refreeze the Arctic. randome May 2014 #70

Nah, nothing that high tech. joshcryer May 2014 #74