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joshcryer

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122. Leg days are the hardest.

Wed May 21, 2014, 04:04 AM

May 2014

I don't see any significant "squating" from Warren supporters. Just talk, no effort. That's why I said not to toot your horn, because the draft Gore movement was probably the largest in modern history, and it still failed. And yet there's no real substantial Draft Warren movement. 86 likes on the "Draft Warren" Facebook page. This is in stark contrast to the Draft Gore movement which had over 200,000 supporters. Over 600 distinct meetup groups (for locals to talk strategy and push Gore to run). Die hard supporters.

Being out of touch is OK, I'm just trying to get you to say, hey, this is how things really are, because you're in for a really big disappointment if you think a few hundred forum posts and a few polls on a predominately liberal website are proof that Warren has a chance. It's just absurd. The political world doesn't work that way.

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I'm Almost Finished with the Warren book and I have a few thoughts [View all] Le Taz Hot May 2014 OP

K & R Habibi May 2014 #1

I doubt she'll run in 2016, but I'm sure she'll continue advocating for ordinary people. winter is coming May 2014 #2

I hope she runs liberalmike27 May 2014 #33

oh my..... daleanime May 2014 #41

That's precisely my guess. Jackpine Radical May 2014 #102

Have you read the book? JDPriestly May 2014 #55

Run Liz run! TheNutcracker May 2014 #103

I absolutely do not understand Aerows May 2014 #85

You'd have to ask them, not me. I'd be delighted to see her run, and the same goes for Bernie. winter is coming May 2014 #87

We need them in the debates Aerows May 2014 #96

The 99 percent *will* support her to the moon and back woo me with science May 2014 #113

I would support her 100% lovemydog May 2014 #3

k&r for Elizabeth Warren. Laelth May 2014 #4

Elizabeth Warren: ‘I’m Not Running for President’ struggle4progress May 2014 #5

She told Stephen Colbert the same thing last night. Fuddnik May 2014 #7

He's a funny funny man struggle4progress May 2014 #14

Over 79K posts and still don't understand how politicians work. Dawgs May 2014 #19

Also doesn't understand basic grammar magical thyme May 2014 #23

And couldn't have been more clear when she was asked, 'Are you running for President in 2016?' Dawgs May 2014 #26

When you say "I am running for President" it triggers legal and campaign finance requirements. former9thward May 2014 #65

you reply to a post that is demigoddess May 2014 #42

We'll see who's stupid when she starts her 2016 campaign in about a year. n/t Dawgs May 2014 #45

Post #23 explains it for those that don't want to believe it. n/t Dawgs May 2014 #46

... "Are you writing this book because you're at least still considering running for president struggle4progress May 2014 #48

Exactly. She's not running now, but maybe in 2016. Dawgs May 2014 #51

and then there are those who believe demigoddess May 2014 #170

Transcript: Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., Talks To ABC News’ David Muir struggle4progress May 2014 #50

What's your point? EW is not running now. Doesn't mean she can't in the future. n/t Dawgs May 2014 #52

Perhaps she says it best herself: "We have issues we need to deal with right now in 2014. struggle4progress May 2014 #63

So she'll run in 2015? Hissyspit May 2014 #129

Merely proves Elizabeth Warren is no dummy. She can't be tricked and isn't playing her hand one JDPriestly May 2014 #104

Compare her background to that of Presidents in the last 50 years struggle4progress May 2014 #53

Read the book. You will be surprised by Elizabeth Warren's experience. She downplays it but JDPriestly May 2014 #105

i know how politicians work which is why i don't think she is going to run for PRes JI7 May 2014 #82

You are insulting a poster because that person quoted Warren? Beacool May 2014 #110

It's not my fault if the poster got insulted for not interpreting the quote correctly. Dawgs May 2014 #141

Read the book. She answers when she is called. JDPriestly May 2014 #56

Get to work. joshcryer May 2014 #70

I already am. n/t Aerows May 2014 #75

Link? joshcryer May 2014 #76

Those motivated to do so Aerows May 2014 #80

I was with draft Gore. joshcryer May 2014 #83

You asked for a link Aerows May 2014 #84

Well good luck. joshcryer May 2014 #90

You accuse folks of not doing "squat" Aerows May 2014 #95

Leg days are the hardest. joshcryer May 2014 #122

Elizabeth Warren says she’s not seeking presidency struggle4progress May 2014 #6

“Senator Warren has said many times, she is not running for President” struggle4progress May 2014 #8

Please Elizabeth, pretty please with sugar on it. Scuba May 2014 #9

... In the interview, Ms. Warren .. said twice that she had no interest in running for president ... struggle4progress May 2014 #10

Do you want Elizabeth Warren to run? JDPriestly May 2014 #57

I like what she says here: "We have issues we need to deal with right now in 2014. We’ve gotta deal struggle4progress May 2014 #62

We are. We want her to have the attention of all who will be watching during the election JDPriestly May 2014 #64

"Maybe some of her many admirers should follow some of her excellent advice" Aerows May 2014 #77

Neither of my senators is running in 2014, and my progressive representative will win without JDPriestly May 2014 #106

I'm with you. I wish Elizabeth will run. Our country needs someone Cal33 May 2014 #93

I have a friend The Wizard May 2014 #11

Oh, I think there are plenty of progressives who like Hillary. CTyankee May 2014 #18

LOL! The desperation is thick in this thread. n/t Dawgs May 2014 #20

Some may pick away at Michelle Nunn because she isn't "progressive" enough... CTyankee May 2014 #22

I believe her too. Dawgs May 2014 #27

while that's possible, I really don't know if that is what she wants. CTyankee May 2014 #29

In a national election, or a blue state, not being progressive enough would be a problem. Dawgs May 2014 #28

Yes--the ones who call themselves "progressive" because they are progressive on social issues eridani May 2014 #60

Read Warren's book. If you are a strong Democrat, you will understand that this is really a JDPriestly May 2014 #107

I am on the list at the library to get her book and I look forward to it. CTyankee May 2014 #128

"let's hope she'll recognize the Zeitgeist" bvar22 May 2014 #39

I'm behind her, whatever she runs for Lifelong Protester May 2014 #12

They are scarred of Hillary Omaha Steve May 2014 #13

ordering that book this week LittleGirl May 2014 #15

K & R !!! WillyT May 2014 #16

I probably would vote for her Leme May 2014 #17

I'm still in the middle of reading her book davidpdx May 2014 #21

if hillary is smart, she will name her veep mopinko May 2014 #24

Vice President for Sen Warren would be a waste. Rather she stay in the Senate than rhett o rick May 2014 #86

ya got her on the bat phone, do ya? mopinko May 2014 #88

The President and executive branch are the least powerful of the 3 and that was by design Larkspur May 2014 #25

She has a place to voice her ideas from her Senate seat. northoftheborder May 2014 #35

She is limited by her age. She has 10 to 12 good years left -- not more. Cal33 May 2014 #94

How many do you think Hillary has? Aerows May 2014 #98

One or two progressive voices in the Senate cannot achieve much. JDPriestly May 2014 #108

The malcontents will find something they hate about her OKNancy May 2014 #30

I see the hatchets are in the ready. Le Taz Hot May 2014 #31

How did Hillary vote on these bills? JDPriestly May 2014 #58

Hillary was not in the Senate at the time these votes were taken. OKNancy May 2014 #67

Because she and they do not stand up for the average American. JDPriestly May 2014 #89

I truly hate regurgitated right wing talking points on DU. aquart May 2014 #118

+1 joshcryer May 2014 #124

"Hillary will be running on Bill's record." No she won't. Absurd. joshcryer May 2014 #123

Why do people who seem to think that EW has so much integrity VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #32

I know this is an exercise in futility Le Taz Hot May 2014 #34

Good try. progressoid May 2014 #36

futility Leme May 2014 #37

No actually it hasn't .....what you are describing is called wishful thinking...and mind reading. VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #137

And thank you for proving my point. Le Taz Hot May 2014 #139

You don't have a point.....you are reading into what she said..... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #140

She didn't say "at this time" AND she didn't say "in 2016". Dawgs May 2014 #143

that is still "mind-reading" no matter HOW you slice it..... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #144

So what? Are we not allowed to give our opinion on what we think a politician is saying? Dawgs May 2014 #147

So you are joining the ranks calling her a liar? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #149

I do believe that she's not running. Why would she? It's 2014. Dawgs May 2014 #150

I believe her.....because I trust her. I take her at her word..... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #151

I just told you that I believe her. Why don't you trust me? Are you calling ME A LIAR? Dawgs May 2014 #152

apparently not.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #153

What qualifiers am I adding? Dawgs May 2014 #154

the "for now" or "this time" or whatever the "Hip Progressives" are using these days... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #156

Wow! You are so scared of EW running that you call 'hoping she changes her mind' as.. Dawgs May 2014 #159

Not scared at all....are you trying to read MY MIND now too? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #160

There is NO DOUBT that you are scared. Don't need to read your mind. You've made it obvious. Dawgs May 2014 #161

This one lives for pissing contests. Le Taz Hot May 2014 #162

like you blend! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #164

Have since 2001 Le Taz Hot May 2014 #165

who cares about your rec count? Is this some sort of scorecard? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #166

How would you know there is "no doubt I am scared" unless you can read my mind? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #163

She isn't lying. She is not running for president at this time. JDPriestly May 2014 #59

No, she pledged not to run. joshcryer May 2014 #127

You all are adding the "not at this time"....she didn't didn't say those words did she? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #138

Because they can't handle the fact that she's not interesting in running. Beacool May 2014 #112

because its fun watching them flail around like flounders! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #146

They believe she would renig on a pledge. joshcryer May 2014 #126

EXACTLY.....they "trust her"....except they don't! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #145

Just got shut out of a pro Obama cheerleading thread where Phlem May 2014 #38

There are the old guard BOG individuals Le Taz Hot May 2014 #40

Love this! ^^^^^^^ Phlem May 2014 #43

The "hive, DEFEND!" reflex does seem to have largely shifted from Obama to Hillary. winter is coming May 2014 #68

Pot meets Kettle! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #148

So being Democrats and supporting Democrats on DU is now called "blind loyalty"? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #158

Everyone here is a "supporter" of "EW" VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #157

She has my vote over anyone Fearless May 2014 #44

The first thing people running for President typically do is write a book. Call me when she does. ieoeja May 2014 #47

I finished her book and here's my $0.02 OldRedneck May 2014 #49

Can you name a couple of tough fights that Hillary's won? Ever? MannyGoldstein May 2014 #73

As I said above, if Hillary runs, all of Bill's mistakes and more will be slung around by the TV. JDPriestly May 2014 #109

Of course they will, but the American public will dismiss it. joshcryer May 2014 #125

I would quit my job and work on her campaign Helen Borg May 2014 #54

We'd work our zentrum May 2014 #61

I've said before and I'll say again. I want a woman to be President someday soon. But when... DesertDiamond May 2014 #66

The thing I find most interesting about Warren... winter is coming May 2014 #69

Some people really, really need us to know she's not running MannyGoldstein May 2014 #71

It's in response to the myriad of posts insisting that she's running, all facts to the contrary. Beacool May 2014 #114

No; if that were so, I'd expect to see periodic, casual responses with an air of mild amusement winter is coming May 2014 #133

I hope you're right. Benton D Struckcheon May 2014 #72

I would walk on broken glass Aerows May 2014 #74

I would too. reformist2 May 2014 #81

I worry for her personal safety. roody May 2014 #78

From your hands to the ears of Goddess Utopian Leftist May 2014 #79

we're in an era now of citizen participation. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #91

Run, Elizabeth, Run. rgbecker May 2014 #92

I hope she runs. Vattel May 2014 #97

I'll be honest Aerows May 2014 #99

I hope to find it at my library soon. Thanks for the heads up. eom Cleita May 2014 #100

We need to find the woman you described in pgh 1 and spooky3 May 2014 #101

Oh gee, here we go again. Beacool May 2014 #111

We desperately need her voice in the Senate.... Jasana May 2014 #115

NO ONE WHO SUGGESTS PITTING OUR MOST MAGNIFICENT WOMEN AGAINST EACH OTHER IS A FRIEND. aquart May 2014 #116

I've no idea what that means. Le Taz Hot May 2014 #117

+1000! eom BlueMTexpat May 2014 #131

WTF? We're talking about an election, not a cage match. winter is coming May 2014 #134

Apparently, we're just supposed to wait around Le Taz Hot May 2014 #136

But Warren has endorsed Hillary! And Bernie's an old Socialist who's not a Democrat! winter is coming May 2014 #142

Disingenuous, much? aquart May 2014 #168

No, I'm quite serious. Who's supposed to decide when candidates are "allowed" to run? winter is coming May 2014 #171

Elizabeth Warren is the hope that Obama spoke of and then wasn't emsimon33 May 2014 #119

Agree 100% supercats May 2014 #120

Kick And Recommend cantbeserious May 2014 #121

It is nice that you believe that, but if you at least BlueMTexpat May 2014 #130

And many of us disagre with you. Le Taz Hot May 2014 #135

Well - I guess that I've BlueMTexpat May 2014 #167

She is a winner! B Calm May 2014 #132

from your keyboard to Gods ears riverwalker May 2014 #155

kick woo me with science May 2014 #169