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politicat

(9,810 posts)
51. I respectfully disagree, but I understand your frustration.
Wed May 21, 2014, 08:29 PM
May 2014

I'm the granddaughter of a WWII vet, the daughter of a Vietnam vet, married to a Gulf War vet, sibling to two Iraq/Afghanistan vets and served my own time as an intern at VA Phoenix. I live and breathe PTSD -- father and grandfather were untreated, spouse and siblings are getting functional treatment, and the focus of my research is improving the treatments. I've also been the health care advocate for several of those family members in the VA system under multiple administrations.

At this point, the VA runs so much better than it did 20 years ago that I could almost weep. I remember quite clearly when the VA didn't even bother to treat PTSD and denied that there were any physiological or psychological symptoms related to either Agent Orange or Gulf War service. Compared to the civilian system, it does better at treating mental injury (many civilians with mental injuries from crime or abuse have very limited access to the care they need, except for a temporary hold after the ER or maybe drugs), and significantly better than it did in the past. Especially under Shinseki, I've seen drastic improvement. Yes, some systems still need work -- but this mess wasn't born yesterday, and the fact that it was (re)discovered and is being handled is itself a drastic improvement. I do want to see the regional administrators testifying, and I really want to see the training procedures that made this wide-spread taken apart, and I want whatever failed incentives program that encouraged this to be entirely revamped, but those are process failures, not leadership failures.

I agree that VA needs a better emergency intake system, but it has needed that for 35 years. OTOH, the entire medical system needs a better emergency intake system, especially for mental health. I'm not going to blame the head of the administration for a generalized, society-wide system failure.

I am truly sorry for your loss, and I wish I had a better answer for how to fix it. I just don't think removing one head from the hydra is going to fix it, and now is the worst time for that, anyway. The fix will require continuity of leadership until it's resolved. A shakeup will just make it harder to fix and more likely to be ignored once attention moves on.

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Secretary Shinseki MUST GO!!!! [View all] AnalystInParadise May 2014 OP
Are you quite sure your rage is properly focused? Xipe Totec May 2014 #1
Secretary Shinseki AnalystInParadise May 2014 #3
No, they don't. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #13
Singlehandedly? I think there were a lot of actors Xipe Totec May 2014 #33
Shinseki is a start AnalystInParadise May 2014 #36
Prosecution is the job of the Justice Dept. Xipe Totec May 2014 #43
Gladly AnalystInParadise May 2014 #49
I look forward to it. Xipe Totec May 2014 #83
The President should ProSense May 2014 #2
I don't care about the damn politics AnalystInParadise May 2014 #4
Yes, you do. ProSense May 2014 #8
What a surprise AnalystInParadise May 2014 #14
Why don't you leave your condescending tone JaneyVee May 2014 #18
you do realize that Shinseki is part of the Obama administration ? JI7 May 2014 #19
Yep AnalystInParadise May 2014 #21
You are not even making sense at this point. Raine1967 May 2014 #28
It is decades overdue AnalystInParadise May 2014 #37
I call bullpucky. Raine1967 May 2014 #61
Yeah I was one of those guys in that war AnalystInParadise May 2014 #67
Well, ProSense May 2014 #23
This sounds too much like what some people said after 9/11--that we needed to attack tblue37 May 2014 #62
Back during the Bush years, the husband of a friend of mine worked on the Skidmore May 2014 #29
^^^ This right here. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #32
I dare BOG AnalystInParadise May 2014 #5
You dare "BOG"? ProSense May 2014 #10
Ayup. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #12
No I am Pro-Obama AnalystInParadise May 2014 #16
You really have a weird way of showing it. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #26
I know AnalystInParadise May 2014 #30
Yes, this entire thread is incredibly odd. MohRokTah May 2014 #31
Not odd AnalystInParadise May 2014 #34
Incredibly odd... eom MohRokTah May 2014 #35
Yes you are and transparent AnalystInParadise May 2014 #38
I disagree, hold the actual people accountable JaneyVee May 2014 #11
So Shinseki is blameless AnalystInParadise May 2014 #20
Unless there's evidence of him conspiring JaneyVee May 2014 #22
That's your opinion and you're entitlted to it. MohRokTah May 2014 #6
So two sitting Congressmen are wrong? AnalystInParadise May 2014 #7
Generally speaking, 435 sitting members of Congress are wrong. MohRokTah May 2014 #9
yes, they are probably wrong, they certainly are wrong in their opposition to gay rights JI7 May 2014 #17
Why would you think that being a "sitting congressman" indicates more knowledge or honesty tblue37 May 2014 #63
Access to more information AnalystInParadise May 2014 #73
But sitting congressmen also have very powerful incentives to *ignore* facts tblue37 May 2014 #75
2 blue dogs, Scott voted in support of a constitutional amendment to ban same sex marriage JI7 May 2014 #15
And SSM AnalystInParadise May 2014 #40
it's politics, they are playing for a certain crowd in both cases JI7 May 2014 #41
Which crowd AnalystInParadise May 2014 #46
conservative leanign crowd, he is a member of the Blue Dog caucus also JI7 May 2014 #50
So still a Democrat? AnalystInParadise May 2014 #68
it's not a smear, it's a fact, you smear shinseki with this type of thread JI7 May 2014 #74
Anyone at the VA aware of this scandal who stayed silent should be fired. Throd May 2014 #24
Thank you AnalystInParadise May 2014 #27
Are you assuming that Shinseki knew? Raine1967 May 2014 #39
I don't know AnalystInParadise May 2014 #44
Fix another word. Your autocorrect changed "prefer" to "piercer." tblue37 May 2014 #66
Thank you again! Raine1967 May 2014 #69
I just saw a subject line of a post by 1StrongBlackMan in which tblue37 May 2014 #72
The real question is AnalystInParadise May 2014 #25
Seriously, if you give a crap the way you say you do in you OP, I'd suggest this: Raine1967 May 2014 #42
It isn't about politics AnalystInParadise May 2014 #45
Assuming how they would respond is projection. You set up a straw man and are arguing it. Raine1967 May 2014 #48
Repeating myself: I was outraged when Walter Reed was allowed to rot, and I'm outraged now Algernon Moncrieff May 2014 #47
Yep AnalystInParadise May 2014 #52
I respectfully disagree, but I understand your frustration. politicat May 2014 #51
Thank you AnalystInParadise May 2014 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author AnalystInParadise May 2014 #55
Excellent post. Thank you for sharing your real knowledge on this subject. kwassa May 2014 #76
I'm a disabled veteran CatWoman May 2014 #53
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just have some questions Algernon Moncrieff May 2014 #60
I think what was going on was a "local" problem CatWoman May 2014 #77
Localized to veterans? Yep..... AnalystInParadise May 2014 #79
I think the question is about executive practice and the desire for efficiency goals applegrove May 2014 #56
I am ok with leaving him in place for now AnalystInParadise May 2014 #57
I agree. applegrove May 2014 #58
Wow. Iggo May 2014 #78
ty nlab4444 May 2014 #59
How about the 41 GOP Senators that voted against Veteran's Benefits? FSogol May 2014 #64
If we can replace them all in elections AnalystInParadise May 2014 #71
As I have posted elsewhere... sendero May 2014 #65
Who says I am not angry at Congress? AnalystInParadise May 2014 #70
Shinseki... sendero May 2014 #81
I'd like to see a lot of people fired customerserviceguy May 2014 #80
I applaud the President for calling for a thorough investigation. He will roll any mfcorey1 May 2014 #82
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