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Phlem

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11. No kidding!

Sat Mar 31, 2012, 11:26 PM

Mar 2012

I was just in a thread that had a bunch of republican apologists in it here in DU. Things have shifted to the right here and I didn't even see it happen.

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Let me get this straight - how did we come to adopting a REPUBLICAN idea as our own? [View all] Zalatix Mar 2012 OP

Because corporate DLC democrats are running our party or the Republican Lites. Cleita Mar 2012 #1

Exactly. n/t dflprincess Mar 2012 #3

That's it in a nutshell. It was truly sickening to watch the Obama Administration Marr Mar 2012 #5

We have some DLC, (Republican Lite) here, not supporting Liberal/Progressive programs. RC Mar 2012 #4

No kidding! Phlem Mar 2012 #11

We also have people here who just throw out labels for people who disagree with them. great white snark Apr 2012 #28

Well, when you defend right of center political ideals, that kinda makes one RC Apr 2012 #54

Well Phlem Apr 2012 #55

No, that's what the right wing does. Cleita Apr 2012 #67

and now O & Salazar are saying we need to explore for oil off the VA coast wordpix Apr 2012 #65

Because not having it is worse. nt Deep13 Mar 2012 #2

Because MA Dems had supported it, and Congressional Dems were verklempt for Teddy FarCenter Mar 2012 #6

And Mitt used to be a moderate Republican. nt zanana1 Apr 2012 #37

It's a ProSense Mar 2012 #7

Indeed. Candidate Obama made it clear he favored mandates MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #9

Doesn't matter ProSense Mar 2012 #10

Doesn't matter MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #12

No ProSense Mar 2012 #14

Yes MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #15

Evidently, ProSense Mar 2012 #16

And what's your basis for that? MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #17

Oh, they stand for something. Marr Apr 2012 #30

Well, if it's good enough for Nixon, then that settles it! Faryn Balyncd Apr 2012 #26

Of course, ProSense Apr 2012 #48

Nixon's plan didn't include a mandate. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #63

please. single payer is the ultimate mandate. the problem isn't mandates, the problem is dionysus Apr 2012 #25

For the public option, 50 votes were reportedly there or very close to it. eomer Apr 2012 #41

bullshit. w had 6 blue dogs plus lieberman of which more than one were ready to fillibuster the PO. dionysus Apr 2012 #64

The final bill passed 56 to 43. It was a reconciliation bill and could not be filibustered. eomer Apr 2012 #66

Stop, you're not supposed to remind people that the Dems COULD pass something sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #69

"the far left" Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #40

I was being sarcastic, sorry MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #42

I thought it was odd coming from you but at this point Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #57

As you say... MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #58

Well I heard Phlem Apr 2012 #56

It seems.... bighughdiehl Mar 2012 #8

same reason we drink all the 'free trade' kool-aid bart95 Mar 2012 #13

LOL!! Well said! Zalatix Mar 2012 #19

worse; we are adopting the Heritage Foundation's health care plan. provis99 Mar 2012 #18

Woah, I didn't think it was THAT bad. Zalatix Mar 2012 #20

here are a couple of good links: provis99 Apr 2012 #24

Holy cripes. I'm seriously going to use this. A lot. Zalatix Apr 2012 #33

We adopted that so the Republicans would support a new health plan. Kablooie Apr 2012 #21

It's the current 2-party system. krispos42 Apr 2012 #22

because someone with a D after their name proposed it TorchTheWitch Apr 2012 #23

Because Ted Kennedy Said That He Regretted On the Road Apr 2012 #27

Most people favor single-payer. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #35

That Might be True, but That Was Supposedly True in the Early 90s On the Road Apr 2012 #59

I think the answer to that is obvious, & demonstrated in the fact that the Democrats are pushing HiPointDem Apr 2012 #61

Your Interpretation is Obvious On the Road Apr 2012 #71

I meant that the people who fund politics want the mandate. Seems like you took it a different HiPointDem Apr 2012 #73

The RW strategy is to manuever Democrats into passing (& then getting blamed for) Republican policy Faryn Balyncd Apr 2012 #29

Blaming it on the GOP is 100% BS chnoutte Apr 2012 #39

Because Prez. Hope & Change says so. Got it? 99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #31

Actually it was the Heritage Foundation that came up with SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #32

On edit: I see I *am* wrong about Gingrich originating the mandate. Heritage it is. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #34

It goes farther back than that...Nixon proposed it, Dole pushed it in 1993.. joeybee12 Apr 2012 #36

Nixon's plan was actually better: HiPointDem Apr 2012 #62

Who is this we? chnoutte Apr 2012 #38

Because it helps people? What you call garbage will help alleviate suffering by millions. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #43

It was the only way to get anything through Congress Motown_Johnny Apr 2012 #44

It's rather simple. USArmyParatrooper Apr 2012 #45

Although Mitt Rmoney IMPLEMENTED it first, Hillary Clinton thought of it. nt LaydeeBug Apr 2012 #46

What you call "garbage" will help millions of people get healthcare they did not have before. DCBob Apr 2012 #47

Who cares? ProSense Apr 2012 #49

Oddly, your analysis is correct hayrow1 Apr 2012 #53

Insurance does not equal care eom TransitJohn Apr 2012 #51

No, health *insurance*. Marr Apr 2012 #52

There is nothing in this bill that guarantees access to health care dflprincess Apr 2012 #70

Individual Mandate came from Orrin Hatch in 1993 _ed_ Apr 2012 #50

Because the real bosses govern both parties. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #60

Because it's the only way to have guaranteed-issue without unaffordable premiums for everyone Recursion Apr 2012 #68

"We" did not adopt this. Curmudgeoness Apr 2012 #72

So follow through like a Republican jeff47 Apr 2012 #74