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Lydia Leftcoast

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29. Well I can play "anecdotal evidence" too
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 11:56 PM
Mar 2012

When I was in England in 2007, I asked people about their health care.

The landlady in one of the B&B's told of going for her annual checkup and having her GP tell her that he suspected cancer. (She didn't say where. She was kind of old-fashioned, so it may have been some place an old-fashioned landlady wouldn't want to talk about.) He sent her to an oncologist (she got in two days later) who confirmed that she did have cancer. She had surgery and chemo without paying a cent.

Having heard all the horror stories about long waits, I asked her how long it was from the oncologist's diagnosis to her surgery.

"Two weeks," she said.

Right-wingers like to cite higher cure rates for breast and prostate cancer in the U.S. than in the U.K.

One reason is that the U.S. tends to aggressively treat breast and prostate tumors that grow so slowly that the person would probably die of old age before the cancer affected them in any way. This counts as a "cure," when it wouldn't have killed the person anyway.

If you compare fast-growing tumors, the U.S. and U.K. survival rates are quite similar.

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There was a radio host here in Nashville TN that called 100 people in Canada in the phone book Lint Head Mar 2012 #1
I had a discussion with a Canadian a few days ago and he had problems with it. He said for doc03 Mar 2012 #3
I still have not met these mythical people that waited that long laundry_queen Mar 2012 #5
We have a friend in this country who is waiting for heart surgery. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #9
And here I am in the US with private insurance waiting for knee replacement csziggy Apr 2012 #35
BTW, ask him if he's ever had to wait that long laundry_queen Mar 2012 #6
Well, he could move here, get for profit insurance and SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #7
+1. That's EXACTLY what would happen. nt. Mariana Mar 2012 #24
maybe they should ask people who have medicare if they want for profit heathcare... madrchsod Mar 2012 #2
Oh, hell no, none of them do. Mariana Mar 2012 #25
Exactly....because as they will tell you...THEY EARNED IT! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #40
I hate when people refer to taxpayer-funded healthcare as kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #4
Certainly here in Japan, it's not free for the general population Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #12
Bingo! Suich Mar 2012 #14
Yes, and certain chronic and catastrophic conditions are entirely covered Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #26
It seems like they've done away with the student discount Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #33
I lived in several European countries and loved the single payer JDPriestly Mar 2012 #8
During the health care debate there was a British conservative who went on Fox News and Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #10
Socialized medicine isn't 'free' Zax2me Mar 2012 #11
Perhaps you're right JohnnyRingo Mar 2012 #15
I have friends in Canada and Australia marlakay Mar 2012 #13
Is your friend in Auistralia talking about GPs? SwissTony Mar 2012 #16
I'm even more sick of the people who perpetuate that myth. GoCubsGo Mar 2012 #17
bill maher was on last night newspeak Mar 2012 #18
The actual rate Prophet 451 Mar 2012 #23
To listen to conservatives in the US Mariana Mar 2012 #27
It is a complete crock Prophet 451 Apr 2012 #37
My husband is English, although we live in the US Mariana Apr 2012 #39
Well I can play "anecdotal evidence" too Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #29
Another reason... Prophet 451 Apr 2012 #38
right wingers are stupid fanatics fascisthunter Mar 2012 #21
It is nothing but rw lies about the evil of socialism libtodeath Mar 2012 #19
What country gets free health care. NCTraveler Mar 2012 #20
yeah that jumps out at you doesn't it. dionysus Mar 2012 #30
I'm British and we love our NHS Prophet 451 Mar 2012 #22
excellent post dionysus Mar 2012 #31
Thank you. In theory... Prophet 451 Apr 2012 #36
Thanx for your input JohnnyRingo Apr 2012 #41
Please do Prophet 451 Apr 2012 #42
"Favour". JohnnyRingo Apr 2012 #43
no health care is ever free;they pay for it with their taxes. it's just that govt\single payer is a dionysus Mar 2012 #28
I read an article recently about Japan spending among the least amount on health care, per capita Incitatus Mar 2012 #32
Except it isn't "free" as others have pointed out. Quantess Apr 2012 #34
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