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WillyT

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Thu May 29, 2014, 07:14 PM May 2014

NSA Releases Snowden Email, Did He Tell NBC the Truth? - ABCNews [View all]

NSA Releases Snowden Email, Did He Tell NBC the Truth?
May 29, 2014
By LEE FERRAN - ABCNews

Edward Snowden said in a recent interview he tried to go through internal channels to raise his concerns about the National Security Agency’s surveillance programs before he slipped out of the country with a trove of secret documents. The NSA disagrees and says it has the email exchange to prove it.

“I actually did go through channels, and that is documented. The NSA has records, they have copies of emails right now to their Office of General Counsel, to their oversight and compliance folks from me raising concerns about the NSA’s interpretations of it – legal authorities,” Snowden told NBC News in a wide-ranging interview. “I reported that there were real problems with the way the NSA was interpreting its legal authorities. And I went even further in this, to say that they could be unconstitutional, that they were sort of abrogating our model of government in a way that empowered presidents to override our statutory laws. And this was made very clear. And the response was, more or less, in bureaucratic language, was, ‘You should stop asking questions.’”

In the interview, Snowden called on Congress to verify that the communications exist.

Today the NSA posted online the email exchange to which the government agency says it believes Snowden is referring. The exchange released by the NSA took place in early April, months after Snowden reportedly contacted journalists in preparation to expose the secret programs.


And...

Snowden told NBC News that he also raised his concerns with his co-workers and superiors, many of whom he said were “shocked” at the programs he described. In December 2013, Snowden similarly told The Washington Post he brought his misgivings to four supervisors in two departments.

“I asked these people, ‘What do you think the public would do if this was on the front page?’” Snowden told the Post. “How is that not reporting it? How is that not raising it?”

In the Washington Post report, an NSA spokesperson said the agency had not found “any evidence” to support Snowden’s claims about raising concerns internally. Then, the NSA did not note the email it published online today.

Ben Wizner, Director of the ACLU Speech, Privacy and Technology Project and legal adviser to Snowden, dismissed the controversy over Snowden’s internal efforts as a “red herring” to the larger issue of mass surveillance.

“The core, the main substance of Snowden’s complaint was not some instance of fraud or misconduct that he stumbled upon that was unknown to inspectors general or Congress. It was an entire system that had been deemed legal by the… oversight mechanisms,” Wizner told ABC News. “The problem was the failure of democratic consent – that an entire system of mass surveillance had been constructed and deployed without [the] consultation of the American people. So, what was he supposed to do?... There wasn’t anyone to tell who didn’t already know it and hadn’t already approved it… There was no channel through which Snowden could have effectively raised his core concerns.”


More: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/nsa-releases-snowden-email-nbc-truth/story?id=23918598&singlePage=true


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Did the NSA tell the truth? One e mail? Autumn May 2014 #1
I'm sure the NSA routinely redacts anything dealing with the truth. L0oniX May 2014 #3
I'm pretty damn sure of that Autumn May 2014 #9
Have you found discrepancies in Snowden's statements? Yes there have been, so if you don't trust Thinkingabout May 2014 #4
I'm thinking it all depends on whom you trust. Autumn May 2014 #6
I guess you err on the side of trusting those who do not tell the truth. Thinkingabout May 2014 #21
Oh, so who the fuck are you that YOU know the truth? Autumn May 2014 #22
And Apparently... So Do YOU !!! WillyT May 2014 #23
What are you talking about? Thinkingabout May 2014 #29
Yep... Who Do You Trust ??? WillyT May 2014 #5
WillyT I'm on record as to whom I trust, Autumn May 2014 #8
I Know... And I Love Ya For It... WillyT May 2014 #11
Right back atcha Willy. You know I thought Snowden came off so much better Autumn May 2014 #14
You Saw The PBS Frontlines On This ??? WillyT May 2014 #16
I watched the NBC interview. Autumn May 2014 #17
Here Ya Go... MUST WATCH... Trust Me... WillyT May 2014 #19
Thanks Willy... oh hell yeah I trust you. I'm gonna watch it after dinner Autumn May 2014 #20
You know this love fest between you two will change nothing. randome May 2014 #26
Are you sad that no one trusts you? I bet someone, somewhere does. Autumn May 2014 #30
I trust WillyT, too Aerows May 2014 #35
And I love you too Autumn May 2014 #38
Shit. Willy got dinged Autumn May 2014 #39
Damn, that's a shame :( Aerows May 2014 #43
That's funny. Blue_In_AK May 2014 #53
I trust him, I'm not keen to confirmation bias.. Snowden shows email that he went through proper uponit7771 May 2014 #48
I saw those. Blue_In_AK May 2014 #52
So now the computer guy is a constitutional scholar????? politicaljunkie41910 May 2014 #12
Don't buy it then. n/t Autumn May 2014 #15
If he had a complaint he did not like the procedures within the NSA and the entire system Thinkingabout May 2014 #2
Interesting ProSense May 2014 #7
thanks for the link to the mother jones piece grasswire May 2014 #24
subterfuge grasswire May 2014 #10
Yeah... The NSA Releases, What Serves The NSA's Purposes... WillyT May 2014 #13
Yes..Snowden last night said NBC had verified E-Mail of how he contacted supervisor KoKo May 2014 #18
The question is simple. Savannahmann May 2014 #25
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT May 2014 #27
what are the chances that this one email was gleaned from others to fit a purpose? G_j May 2014 #40
Forget the NSA, why doesn't Snowden release the emails, or was he too stupid to make lostincalifornia May 2014 #28
Maybe he nor his advisors has figured out how to hack into the NSA computers and place the email the Thinkingabout May 2014 #31
He should have saved his own emails. After all he was trained as a spy lostincalifornia May 2014 #41
Nah, come on.. he took 1.7 million documents OF COURSE he took his OWN emails also to prove that he uponit7771 May 2014 #32
Then why doesn't he release them? lostincalifornia May 2014 #42
forgot /sarcasm tag.. lol.. it's needed around here uponit7771 May 2014 #45
Actually it wasn't meant to be sarcastic. If Snowden makes an allegation that could be confirmed lostincalifornia May 2014 #47
no me, I forgot the sarcasm tag... I totally agree with you, the guys a damn liar and the more and uponit7771 May 2014 #49
Sorry, and yes, your assessment is a logical conclusion lostincalifornia May 2014 #50
Yup, we're supposed to believe he didn't keep copies of his emails. gulliver May 2014 #33
I would bet big he does have copies of those e mails. Autumn May 2014 #34
Yep Aerows May 2014 #36
Or.. or the NSA knows he's FOS and even this time he whips out an email that shows he... uponit7771 May 2014 #46
good point, perhaps it is "let them have more rope to hang themselves" nt Leme May 2014 #37
Hanging works two ways. yea, I know, now Snowden is a legal expert. Thinkingabout May 2014 #44
rocket scientist, traitor, patriot, bead maker Leme May 2014 #51
Yes, the NSA is a covert operation, a reason for having employment agreement to not Thinkingabout May 2014 #54
can you outline the lies for us? frylock May 2014 #55
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