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SidDithers

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432. Serial alerter?...

Tue Jun 3, 2014, 10:01 AM

Jun 2014

Bullshit.

I've sent exactly 5 alerts to juries since May 16. That's about 2 a week.

Personal attack: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4965295
Personal attack: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4972664
Personal attack: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=812337
Personal attack: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5035900
(post had already been juried)
Odious source: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5037985

You'll notice only one of those alerts was for the use of a source. Anyone who uses whale.to deserves to get their post hidden. Go spend some time at whale.to if you don't believe that it's an odious source. Or don't. I don't care.

Sergeant-at-arms. Don't make me fucking laugh.

Sid

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The real reason a very loud few are posting hostility toward Glenn Greenwald at DU: [View all] woo me with science Jun 2014 OP

So... Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #1

Yeah, that's *exactly* what the post says gratuitous Jun 2014 #6

How else should I intepret the following: Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #7

"persona management" was well documented in the HB Gary hack... Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #93

So how is it possible for us to identify the government operatives here? nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #139

That's easy ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #144

That seems to be the case. Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #165

How well does the NSA pay? The Third Way/DLC is a good wage, but the hours msanthrope Jun 2014 #169

not as good as Pierre, Pierre the Billionaire pays. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #183

That sweet, sweet Omidayar money? Nice work if you can get it..... msanthrope Jun 2014 #192

Maybe Just People Obsessed a With It billhicks76 Jun 2014 #404

Obviously Not billhicks76 Jun 2014 #407

People who use talking points. Those who are exressing their own thoughts, do not use sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #170

The beauty and the power of their system is you cant Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #406

Excellent post. The immediate attempts to invoke "tinfoil hat" woo me with science Jun 2014 #292

+1,000,000!!! Fox News was the 1st large scale Dustlawyer Jun 2014 #306

+googleplex FOX hates Snowden billhicks76 Jun 2014 #408

I appreciate your constant return to this issue: woo me with science Jun 2014 #422

You know it! I have talk about this with a couple of RW friends, but their hate of Democrats keeps Dustlawyer Jun 2014 #439

The Obama Administration started "Message Control Teams" from Day One. bvar22 Jun 2014 #363

Cass Sunstein? billhicks76 Jun 2014 #409

Thank you. A sick, authoritarian focus on message control/propagandizing rather then representing woo me with science Jun 2014 #421

How about his statement that those worried about the double fast, double secret TPP are merrily Jun 2014 #454

Thank you. woo me with science Jun 2014 #474

It would not surprise me one bit... elzenmahn Jun 2014 #114

Message Control started very early in the Obama Administration: bvar22 Jun 2014 #324

Because that's the way Rahm plays... Generic Other Jun 2014 #350

There was a faction on the 'left' several years ago, bloggers mostly, who publicly discussed using sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #384

The message control Generic Other Jun 2014 #387

You would think when they see it doesn't work, they would try something a bit more effective. But sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #388

Proof positive... elzenmahn Jun 2014 #376

As if all Democratic groups are liberal groups. merrily Jun 2014 #456

My basic question is how can we have a group of posters here that claim they are politically liberal rhett o rick Jun 2014 #214

If someone is taking the side of the NSA The Green Manalishi Jun 2014 #275

You make it hard to argue. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #284

Your description is better The Green Manalishi Jun 2014 #294

Nailed it up tight. bvar22 Jun 2014 #327

The old Bush-era DU was one that had no nuance Generic Other Jun 2014 #359

Do you really have to soft coat everything? L0oniX Jun 2014 #335

It's a fault I am working on. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #419

I have another theory Rhett Caretha Jun 2014 #397

I tried to give them some credit, but you make a great case. They literally have nothing to rhett o rick Jun 2014 #420

Simple Caretha Jun 2014 #395

Read the OP and the links before trying to summarize the vast amount of info provided as to how sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #122

That could explain how the Quislings are able pocoloco Jun 2014 #123

Jury Results: bvar22 Jun 2014 #201

Sanity prevails. L0oniX Jun 2014 #336

Thankfully! bvar22 Jun 2014 #367

RW Quisling, NSA quisling, Bush quisling, 1pct quisling, stupid quisling, ... erronis Jun 2014 #372

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #160

I was the first post... Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #164

You're so deep undercover, you didn't even know it! randome Jun 2014 #167

They can do that now. Deep brainwashing controlled by your cell phone and computer! flamingdem Jun 2014 #172

Oh, Christ! My cell phone just turned itself on! Help! randome Jun 2014 #173

So are you the leader? Does that make me a follower? nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #171

Not to worry, they got him. He got a hide for saying some here are authoritarians. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #331

He got a hide for linking to whale.to SidDithers Jun 2014 #334

I think his post should be considered on it's content. But then I am not trying to use rhett o rick Jun 2014 #338

Yeah, that's what I thought you'd say... SidDithers Jun 2014 #340

That's what I thought you'd say. Are you seriously trying to save DU from evil? I dont rhett o rick Jun 2014 #345

"I dont know shite about the site."... SidDithers Jun 2014 #347

Nice try, but I am not "defending it's use." We dont have a banned site list that I know of rhett o rick Jun 2014 #352

Well you weren't on the jury... SidDithers Jun 2014 #353

I am not the one trying to mold DU into a site that excludes intellectual discussions. A site where rhett o rick Jun 2014 #358

Obsessing on telling the rest us what to think and read Generic Other Jun 2014 #362

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #443

No, you're the one trying to mold the site into the Yahoo boards... SidDithers Jun 2014 #402

But you never post in discussion threads. You seem obsessed with policing DU and locking and hiding rhett o rick Jun 2014 #417

Daddy is looking out for us bobduca Jun 2014 #424

Smoochy, moochy...nt SidDithers Jun 2014 #427

ETERNAL VIGILANCE!!!1111111 bobduca Jun 2014 #428

My location has been in my profile since 2002... SidDithers Jun 2014 #429

I think its admirable, the work you are doing to erode the stereotype of Canadians bobduca Jun 2014 #431

...snort! grasswire Oct 2014 #478

He posts, but I have not seen a post of his on actual issues. merrily Jun 2014 #458

Those that post only adulation for the President and disparage those that dont, are rhett o rick Jun 2014 #463

I haven't even seen his adulation of the President posts. merrily Jun 2014 #465

Yes, now that you say that, I do agree. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #466

Jury results: X_Digger Jun 2014 #426

Comparing pocoloco's post with the postthat was hidden shows the inconsistencies of the jury system. merrily Jun 2014 #459

The alert, hide and lock team has power thru persistence and organization. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #462

Is concerted action already implied in "organization?" merrily Jun 2014 #464

They act as a "Team". They all post in the Snowden hate threads and none post in fracking, TPP rhett o rick Jun 2014 #467

Someone posted that he or she stumbled on the "place" where the coordination happens. merrily Jun 2014 #468

Self-righteousness gone horribly wrong. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #473

facebook, I think grasswire Oct 2014 #479

So you are the one Caretha Jun 2014 #398

Damn right I did... SidDithers Jun 2014 #403

Do you keep score of the alerts? Generic Other Jun 2014 #423

DUers have never been "allowed" to use material from right-wing sources to criticize Democrats... SidDithers Jun 2014 #425

Me and my pals? Generic Other Jun 2014 #430

Serial alerter?... SidDithers Jun 2014 #432

Yeah 'Sergeant-at-arms' was low bobduca Jun 2014 #434

Yes. Dudley always gets his man Generic Other Jun 2014 #436

I don't recall sending more than one or two alerts Generic Other Jun 2014 #435

Checked out whale.to yet?... SidDithers Jun 2014 #437

Why not? Generic Other Jun 2014 #441

Have you? The link that you used as an excuse to hide, was completely rhett o rick Jun 2014 #444

Yeah, and David Duke has criticisms of Obamacare... SidDithers Jun 2014 #446

The link was to an article that denigrated the Right Wing. But you got the hide. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #447

The link was to an anti-Semitic, conpiracist hate site... SidDithers Jun 2014 #448

Locking and hiding seems to be very important to some here that apparently dont understand rhett o rick Jun 2014 #449

And some don't believe that anything should ever be locked or hidden... SidDithers Jun 2014 #450

You are correct, I as a host think that the lock should be rarely used and the onus rhett o rick Jun 2014 #451

Most Hosts are able to independently evaluate an alerted thread and decide if it's on or off topic.. SidDithers Jun 2014 #455

Proved your point up thread. L0oniX Jun 2014 #337

the problem with the jury system is questionseverything Jun 2014 #438

Not necessarily all of them. A few might actually be Zorra Jun 2014 #286

What is the best way to identify "them" in your opinion? Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #288

Hacking the Third Way network. nt Zorra Jun 2014 #290

You seem like a reasonable person Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #291

More discussion? About what? The merits of what amounts to unwarranted, Zorra Jun 2014 #323

righteous post, there grasswire Jun 2014 #361

How eloquently stated! Generic Other Jun 2014 #392

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Bravo! Caretha Jun 2014 #399

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I could not love you more for writing this. woo me with science Jun 2014 #414

DURec for Post # 323 by Zorra. bvar22 Jun 2014 #415

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Almost all posts that begin with "So" and is followed by something NOBODY had said... bvar22 Jun 2014 #300

'So' is generally followed by 'what you are saying is' followed by a total misinterpretation of sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #319

Exactly. bvar22 Jun 2014 #329

�� -- Blue Links -- !!!� Whisp Jun 2014 #2

Only some people are allowed to post blue links. Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #3

Realistically I prefer my links in purple. Agschmid Jun 2014 #4

My browser shows all text in purple. Clicked on links turn green. Don't like black and blue... freshwest Jun 2014 #276

Someone should go to ATA and ask Skinner to assign different coloured links Whisp Jun 2014 #195

If you want "puce" links, bvar22 Jun 2014 #227

You may be too invested in a losing stock. Whisp Jun 2014 #229

A Pulitzer Prize Winning "Losing Stock"! bvar22 Jun 2014 #234

Probably yes. He may be better at that Whisp Jun 2014 #235

"stumbling around and forgetting what lies and exaggerations he told" bvar22 Jun 2014 #242

are you calling me a thief? because that would be very, very rich. Whisp Jun 2014 #245

Painted yourself into a corner? bvar22 Jun 2014 #253

You said I steal stuff from the Internet... Whisp Jun 2014 #254

Are you the original composer of the photoshop you posted? bvar22 Jun 2014 #262

I 'borrow' Tiger Beat images, and Fox Mulder posters, yes. Whisp Jun 2014 #264

Tiger Beat???? bvar22 Jun 2014 #271

Not the original versions that were meant to shame and belittle Obama supporters Whisp Jun 2014 #274

+1! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #301

I'm glad to have seen that. It CONFIRMS that the talking points are being distributed sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #418

Well, THAT explains everything. bvar22 Jun 2014 #326

Perhaps you should read the terms of service at Tiger Beat. bvar22 Jun 2014 #377

Took you a while to get a posse and get lawyered up, eh? Whisp Jun 2014 #378

Lol, I know, Tiger Beat, that's what I was thinking. I think that is for preteen fans of sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #317

Whoever brought Tiger Beat covers to DU to insult Obama supporters Whisp Jun 2014 #342

Okay, I haven't seen them ... that explains it then. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #382

Here is your proof, not that it will make any difference to you Whisp Jun 2014 #270

You are on a roll! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #302

lol. ty. Whisp Jun 2014 #303

so I steal stuff and Snowden just borrows stuff, right? Whisp Jun 2014 #261

Technically both of you violated copyrights Generic Other Jun 2014 #364

You should inform Skinner, Elad and all the other posters Whisp Jun 2014 #365

I am a collage artist Generic Other Jun 2014 #369

what a huge crock of bullshit. Whisp Jun 2014 #370

Ah, thanks for the rudest answer to anything I have ever posted at DU Generic Other Jun 2014 #371

You are welcome. Hope your sales are good. Mine aren't for sale. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #379

Honor among thieves is my motto Generic Other Jun 2014 #385

Post of the DAY! HangOnKids Jun 2014 #383

I'm reminded of a quote from Henry A Wallace... Electric Monk Jun 2014 #5

Well, when you can get self-styled "Undergrounders" championing the surveillance state... villager Jun 2014 #65

excellent point nt grasswire Jun 2014 #75

Good catch! NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #84

Loud applause JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #108

Hard to believe you've missed posts by randome, siddithers, msanthrope etc riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #142

Become one of us. One of us. One of us. randome Jun 2014 #147

LOL! Whisp Jun 2014 #196

See this ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #148

Would you kindly link to the specific post I've made that defends the NSA? msanthrope Jun 2014 #159

Have you ever seen the talking points re Greenwald, lol, the ones that get repeated despite how sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #238

Sabrina, you know that I do not answer your questions. Nor do I read your posts. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #349

That's strange because you always respond to them. There is an ignore feature here, I don't use sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #381

LOL I wouldn't feel too bad. Puglover Jun 2014 #433

I wonder too where that information came from? sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #440

But, where are the condemnations of the surveillance state? merrily Jun 2014 #457

Oh yes, it absolutely was different during the Bush years and would be again, if a Republican got sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #469

But maybe not quite as different. merrily Jun 2014 #471

Recognizing GG and Snowden for the scamming crud they are Whisp Jun 2014 #179

Find me a post where I defended the NSA... SidDithers Jun 2014 #194

Better yet, can you post a link to one where you condemned their gross violations of our sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #321

No, the poster made an accusation, it's up to them to substantiate it... SidDithers Jun 2014 #328

I don't have a tail, not that I have anything against those who do. And I NEVER 'run away', I just sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #380

Can you please link to specific posts where these people defended specific NSA surveillance tactics Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #210

Doubt if there is such a link. Some here dont ever post an opinion on rhett o rick Jun 2014 #218

You doubt there is a link? So the person is a liar? nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #222

What person? rhett o rick Jun 2014 #224

The person I requested the link from. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #226

Can you post specific links where they have criticized the NSA surveillance tactics? sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #472

Thanks for saying this! Estevan Jun 2014 #185

Cool, a Nance sighting! panader0 Jun 2014 #260

Demonizing them and insulting those who agree with them (to some extent whatever) is... Armstead Jun 2014 #278

clearly reddread Jun 2014 #310

Thank you, woo me with science! scarletwoman Jun 2014 #8

That post kicked ass Aerows Jun 2014 #56

Obama can do no wrong! Skittles Jun 2014 #9

I am glad you have finally seen the light. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #10

Finally you admit it. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #17

...Or wants a pony!!! DRoseDARs Jun 2014 #11

Oh Obama can do wrong treestar Jun 2014 #23

"doing things differently" wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #51

CORRECT Skittles Jun 2014 #77

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #80

They also don't seem to understand journalism is a profession. Fawke Em Jun 2014 #129

He is earning his living by fencing stolen classfied documents. Whisp Jun 2014 #187

Earns his living fencing Stolen Documents, bvar22 Jun 2014 #197

1. The only thing GG or Eddie expose is their stupidity Whisp Jun 2014 #212

If all they exposed is their "stupidity", bvar22 Jun 2014 #225

GG is selling stolen government documents Whisp Jun 2014 #228

Please document you claim that Snowden is "selling" stolen documents, bvar22 Jun 2014 #244

GG is making money off of stolen property. Checkbook Journalism. Whisp Jun 2014 #249

That does NOT support your claim. bvar22 Jun 2014 #256

Of course it does, who is this Snowden guy then? Another one and not Eddie? Whisp Jun 2014 #259

I think if the criticism of those who believe Greenwald and Snowden were.... Armstead Jun 2014 #145

Well said The Green Manalishi Jun 2014 #277

You are the first one on your side to admit they exposed something.... Logical Jun 2014 #309

And there is a perfect example of what the OP is talking about. Greenwald has no 'followers' that I sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #386

You infer, I imply. n/t DeSwiss Jun 2014 #55

I want a pony Aerows Jun 2014 #59

I want a pony that doesn't keep records of every email and call I make or receive lark Jun 2014 #236

Hey... Joe Biden (version 2006) agrees with you! bvar22 Jun 2014 #248

My favorite post in the whole thread. woo me with science Jun 2014 #391

Not just an asshole libertarian, a racist too. n/t hughee99 Jun 2014 #138

Gee. You called him a "racist". bvar22 Jun 2014 #206

To be accurate, I called anyone who implies the president has done something wrong hughee99 Jun 2014 #220

I've been here too long. bvar22 Jun 2014 #233

Exactly. What else could it be if not racism? hughee99 Jun 2014 #237

K&R and bookmarking this thread. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #12

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Do you feel this was an ideology purge? Why? Agschmid Jun 2014 #24

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #27

Who is asking? Agschmid Jun 2014 #28

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #30

I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from. Agschmid Jun 2014 #31

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Nope it's not me, but ok. Agschmid Jun 2014 #34

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Well it sure seems you are familiar with the PPR process, so I figured you must be back. Agschmid Jun 2014 #36

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They are reading them, this is a public forum no? Agschmid Jun 2014 #38

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #41

Nope no deletes from me, nothing to hide. Agschmid Jun 2014 #44

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What is threatening about his posts? Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #40

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #42

So strange. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #46

Who could have predicted this? OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #61

LOL Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #62

do you know which bannned member it was ? JI7 Jun 2014 #68

Some guy that just registered today Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #71

he was on here before and banned , i wonder if it's better believe it JI7 Jun 2014 #72

why did you alert? grasswire Jun 2014 #76

Personal attack. Got hidden 6-1. Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #135

I missed the final post but felt there was a certain Whisp Jun 2014 #191

It's like he never existed and all those concerns about the hostility towards GG went up Cha Jun 2014 #357

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! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #57

bookmarked Generic Other Jun 2014 #15

Yes! Blue_In_AK Jun 2014 #16

Woo woo! Egnever Jun 2014 #18

It's like an alarm clock...Woo Woo!!! Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #26

These 2 posts have convinced me to recommend the OP muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #91

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Burn! BillZBubb Jun 2014 #405

Sure.....and I suppose almost everybody's a climate doomer..... AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #19

Thank you for letting me know. DeSwiss Jun 2014 #60

Is this the part where I get labeled as a propagandist shill for the Pentagon again?? Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #20

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This Blue_Tires JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #110

why are you taking this personally? questionseverything Jun 2014 #215

What I'm SAYING is Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #232

you did not answer my questions questionseverything Jun 2014 #252

So...If it's a waste of time to identify people Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #258

450 replies later and still not a word Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #470

You got that right brother! Fuddnik Jun 2014 #21

You are right Aerows Jun 2014 #25

Populace. While I do not generally correct other people's posts, I recently corrected msanthrope Jun 2014 #140

I didn't take offense Aerows Jun 2014 #186

Well like one DUer often says. zeemike Jun 2014 #29

Dear Woo, DU doesn't represent society on a whole... Historic NY Jun 2014 #33

DU is also better-read and more politically aware than most Americans. woo me with science Jun 2014 #39

Hello woo.... Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #43

the cost of being on too many people's ignore list bobduca Jun 2014 #106

I'm not on Woo's ignore list.... Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #133

You're exactly right, Woo Oilwellian Jun 2014 #48

Good post, kicked. (eom) CanSocDem Jun 2014 #127

An NBC Poll? Oilwellian Jun 2014 #47

A poll from 2013...really Historic NY Jun 2014 #67

JUNE 2013 Number23 Jun 2014 #73

So last week NBC was all peachy with their Greenwald partnership Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #273

When its corrupted -- its ALL corrupted. DeSwiss Jun 2014 #63

Polls...... roomtomove Jun 2014 #124

Yahoo? bvar22 Jun 2014 #200

Actually they cited...this new national poll. Historic NY Jun 2014 #333

Nailed it Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #49

+1 QuestForSense Jun 2014 #52

He's a great guy Aerows Jun 2014 #54

Damn straight! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #50

My friend Aerows Jun 2014 #53

You know, this kind of ridiculous paranoid conspiracy crap.. gcomeau Jun 2014 #58

I don't know why it's so hard for people to accept the fact.... Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #64

It seems that a good gummint operative... OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #70

No.....It's when it becomes the Democratic/Obama Enforcement Squad that hackles get raised Armstead Jun 2014 #150

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Have you ever noticed ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #85

Exactly. Andy823 Jun 2014 #153

Oh yes, noticed that a long time ago. Whisp Jun 2014 #175

Obama? you know that guy is gone in two years, right? frylock Jun 2014 #188

Being against a surveillance state, in the end, has nothing to do with Obama. paulkienitz Jun 2014 #351

Interesting comment. I've never read anything of the kind. not ever. 2banon Oct 2014 #477

I missed the memo ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #198

I missed one as well apparently... gcomeau Jun 2014 #207

Do you ever post without calling out other DUers? joshcryer Jun 2014 #66

You GOT me! In fact, Obama hired me for proNSA 2001. Rand Paul wanted me, but, I was already taken blm Jun 2014 #69

I totally agree with you. K&R laundry_queen Jun 2014 #74

You've got the perfect premise here ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #81

Yet not a single refutation to be had in all your words. Lars39 Jun 2014 #82

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Not sure what was better Egnever Jun 2014 #86

Yup. Classic. Ghost Dog Jun 2014 #87

LOL. I'm impressed you made it through... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #184

Me too. bvar22 Jun 2014 #341

Nailed it! L0oniX Jun 2014 #344

Boy, you put a lot of work into that. And it shows. Demit Jun 2014 #88

"Reality-Based" bobduca Jun 2014 #101

Nailed it... SidDithers Jun 2014 #104

Great stuff. Love it! nt brush Jun 2014 #107

Been a while since I wished you could Rec a Reply... :) -eom gcomeau Jun 2014 #125

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2014 #130

Excellent! Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #149

Oh God, the "Reality based Community" again Armstead Jun 2014 #151

I think you have a point there--one should question the reach of the msanthrope Jun 2014 #168

Well, to be honest I think the OP went a bit too far, as did her response Armstead Jun 2014 #176

True--it only helps polarize DU further. And that's a shame, because the main task ahead of msanthrope Jun 2014 #178

Words of sanity War Horse Jun 2014 #241

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #162

Priceless. LOL! Whisp Jun 2014 #211

LOL. sagat Jun 2014 #263

I'm Sorry But Your Submission Has Been Rejected. DeSwiss Jun 2014 #268

Yeah I can paraphrase your reply a tad more succinctly I think. Puglover Jun 2014 #293

Testify sister! MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #287

!!! Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #400

Brilliant Nance! Cha Jun 2014 #412

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #89

They are obvious and soooo predictable Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #92

studying how 'controlling the message' is done is useful. NuttyFluffers Jun 2014 #90

Great post! Anarcho-Socialist Jun 2014 #94

Thanks for cutting through the BS - TBF Jun 2014 #95

"It is amazing how close Orwell was to the mark ..." 30 years off carolinayellowdog Jun 2014 #97

Here's a start: Greenwald has never met a Democratic President he didn't hate. baldguy Jun 2014 #96

A non sequitur Fearless Jun 2014 #116

Totally relevant, a racist Bush backer hates Obama... that's not new... DU expecting people to ... uponit7771 Jun 2014 #131

No one is saying anyone has to respect anyone though Fearless Jun 2014 #189

Exactamundo blackspade Jun 2014 #98

du rec. xchrom Jun 2014 #99

Kick and Rec bobduca Jun 2014 #100

Just cashed my paycheck from the NSA this morning! ColesCountyDem Jun 2014 #102

The Third Way/DLC pays more. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #137

You got paid?!?!?!?! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #205

... SidDithers Jun 2014 #103

Just to ensure I'm on "The List" Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #105

Excellent post. K&R nt NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #109

In a few cases, perhaps. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #111

Excellent post... freebrew Jun 2014 #118

Yep. Thanks for posting this! nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #112

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2014 #113

" including attacks on the messengers, mocking, swarming, and endless diversion" loudsue Jun 2014 #115

Yes, yes and also...... Smarmie Doofus Jun 2014 #117

Those threads soliciting support for Greenwald garner 125-140 recs. Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #119

the OP specifically says it is a LOUD FEW and not "everyone that has reservations" carolinayellowdog Jun 2014 #141

You've proved Ikonoklast's point. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #152

No. You are confused. bvar22 Jun 2014 #374

Exactly. Andy823 Jun 2014 #157

+1 Couldn't agree more! B Calm Jun 2014 #219

"The real reason"? Pure fiction! George II Jun 2014 #120

Absolutely. The noise machine is imperative to drown out Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #121

K&R You will know them by their works or in many cases, their silence. nt raouldukelives Jun 2014 #126

DURec leftstreet Jun 2014 #128

Yes. Big $$$ in defense contracts. closeupready Jun 2014 #132

The way Greenwald/Snowden detractors whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #134

Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jun 2014 #136

Complicating things further is the fact that propaganda is self-perpetuating RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #143

just wanted to add..working for free and fair elections gets u targeted questionseverything Jun 2014 #146

yeah--except last week on Stephanie Miller Show Steph and Jackie Schechner librechik Jun 2014 #154

this is a despicable, broad-brushed attack on speech bigtree Jun 2014 #155

I couldn't agree more nt Andy823 Jun 2014 #180

Baloney BillZBubb Jun 2014 #410

I haven't been loud about it, but it is possible Bettie Jun 2014 #156

More likely the ratfuckers are the organized group. See how that works? KittyWampus Jun 2014 #158

Yup. Ratfuckers gotta ratfuck...nt SidDithers Jun 2014 #250

K&R. Great links! nt valerief Jun 2014 #161

ATA thread about this thread Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #163

k and r snagglepuss Jun 2014 #166

This whole thread is an example of narcissistic paranoia. sufrommich Jun 2014 #174

+1,000,000 nt Andy823 Jun 2014 #181

Propagandists could have also torn down FDR for his actions regarding interning Japanese Americans cascadiance Jun 2014 #177

Wow! That is one terrific, thoughtful analysis! +1 RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #190

There might be temptations by some to demonize kids of the 60's for their VW bugs... cascadiance Jun 2014 #203

Nobody tore "down FDR for his actions regarding interning Japanese Americans." bvar22 Jun 2014 #267

I'd disagree in part stupidicus Jun 2014 #182

"the simpler and more plausible explanantion" bvar22 Jun 2014 #216

I think 99% of DUers know exactly how the Snowden/Greenwald adventure will end. randome Jun 2014 #193

Sublime! bvar22 Jun 2014 #209

If the evidence was clear-cut, and not subject to interpretation, we would already be... randome Jun 2014 #217

The Pulitzer Prize Committee disagrees. bvar22 Jun 2014 #251

Pulitzer Prizes are based on the quality of the reporting and the subject matter. randome Jun 2014 #255

Distinctions without a Difference. bvar22 Jun 2014 #257

People have disagreements and can have honest disagreements. I agree that there are some who like to hrmjustin Jun 2014 #204

i think divulging the NSA ability to spy on americans is one thing, but divulging to other countries dionysus Jun 2014 #221

I have no idea where it comes from G_j Jun 2014 #208

Its all about the Two Minutes of HATE. bvar22 Jun 2014 #240

works as advertised! reddread Jun 2014 #312

A conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories? frazzled Jun 2014 #213

It'd be nice if we all were here to discuss the issues. But that's not the case. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #223

Well, you know ... frazzled Jun 2014 #246

That is the "Real Reason"? Really? On the Road Jun 2014 #230

Now THAT is a looooong reach. bvar22 Jun 2014 #247

Well, the Best Generally Available Source is Probably the Washington Post Article On the Road Jun 2014 #394

. ProSense Jun 2014 #231

i believe that someone (i mean a bot, not a person) is reading my texts barbtries Jun 2014 #239

More Americans Oppose Edward Snowden's Actions Than Support Them ProSense Jun 2014 #243

Is there a BS award on DU? We have a winner uhnope Jun 2014 #265

I just think Greenwald is an obnoxious dick with disingenious intentions. phleshdef Jun 2014 #266

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #269

Wow, how do I miss these OPs? Must be spending too much time at work. Rex Jun 2014 #272

straw man attack leads to insulting a real person carolinayellowdog Jun 2014 #320

I don't really think woo believes everyone that disagrees with him is a government agent. Rex Jun 2014 #442

I wonder how many Democrats attacked Daniel Ellsberg The Green Manalishi Jun 2014 #279

Ellsberg had proof. Snowden has insinuations and suppositions. randome Jun 2014 #281

a new low for you nt grasswire Jun 2014 #282

You've said that before. Soon I'll be posting from Pellucidar! randome Jun 2014 #283

"a new low for you" Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #289

Well, my real question remains The Green Manalishi Jun 2014 #296

No one is saying to trust the NSA. randome Jun 2014 #304

Realization is setting in for some that G&S are not what they seem. randome Jun 2014 #305

What they are is NOT the point The Green Manalishi Jun 2014 #366

Even MORE fascinating: bvar22 Jun 2014 #368

Great! And seems to have struck a chord in some. Squinch Jun 2014 #280

OP is so logical and sensible, it's impossible for it not to be factual. Zorra Jun 2014 #285

Ha! Puglover Jun 2014 #295

Poll ProSense Jun 2014 #297

Couldnt be because iamthebandfanman Jun 2014 #298

Oh, go lick Hitler's boots, you America-hater, you! randome Jun 2014 #307

My latest selfie. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #299

So you know Zach Galifianakis, then. What's he like? randome Jun 2014 #308

I'm a palm, not a fern! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #311

Sorry! Sorry! You all look alike to...oh, shit! Never mind! Delete! Delete! randome Jun 2014 #313

.... greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #315

Thank You, woo. bvar22 Jun 2014 #314

Yes, I noticed that. woo me with science Jun 2014 #322

Personally I think Greenwald is a self-righteous, arrogant creep. I don't like him at all. OregonBlue Jun 2014 #316

196 recs...and good to go until 11PM! bvar22 Jun 2014 #318

Two possibilities Android3.14 Jun 2014 #325

Nicely Done! bvar22 Jun 2014 #346

You got me! I'm a plant. Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #330

Let me guess: A Ficus? BillZBubb Jun 2014 #411

This was all about you? HangOnKids Jun 2014 #475

good topic. There are HUGE profits made from OUR Federal/state funds to pay for "surveillance" Sunlei Jun 2014 #332

It couldn't possibly be Greenwald's actually as much of a scumbag as we've accused him of being? Chan790 Jun 2014 #339

You know the best result of OPs like this? randome Jun 2014 #343

Wow ...heads explode ...and I'm out of popcorn now. L0oniX Jun 2014 #348

How accomodating of your targets to self-identify via outraged responses. winter is coming Jun 2014 #354

Post of the year to you my friend. harun Jun 2014 #355

Thank you Woo!!!!!!!!!!! Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #356

Many a time I check DU on my phone Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #360

I saw that copycat thread and couldn't believe how perfectly it illustrated the problem. woo me with science Jun 2014 #373

I just removed OP for a check Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #375

Quite a few smear threads like that lately. woo me with science Jun 2014 #396

Kick bobduca Jun 2014 #389

knr Douglas Carpenter Jun 2014 #390

Thank you. mia Jun 2014 #413

Where do you people come from? n/t albino65 Jun 2014 #416

Where do we come from? bvar22 Jun 2014 #453

BRAVO!!!! HangOnKids Jun 2014 #476

Great Op, full of good info. Thank you. Generated a lot of recs and replies, too. merrily Jun 2014 #460

I agree. mia Jun 2014 #461