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BrotherIvan

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114. There's no balance

Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:50 PM

Jun 2014

I have yet to see a BOGer write an OP saying something must be changed during this administration. I'd love to get humbled by blue links, but the standard reply, "I don't always agree with the President" hardly bears itself out.

Above you state he's not perfect and merely compare him to the possible Republican that could have won. That's an extremely low bar that not all of us *who voted for him twice* use. And, as has been pointed out to the BOG many times, discussing policies we do not agree with or wish to see changed is not "bashing". But that never seems to come across. Instead, lifelong Democrats are treated to screeches of ODS! Paulites! Haters! and the most hilarious to me, Racists!

It's the puerile howling and mewling to get everyone to fall in line that bristles. And yes, there's a lot more of that plus high fives about memes, swooning over family photos, and basic complaining about all the people talking about policy and economics than actual discussion of policy and economics.

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So... Since The GOP Has Become Batshit Racist And Crazy... We Are Not Allowed To Criticize The Pres? [View all] WillyT Jun 2014 OP

Yeah, this whole Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #1

If you oppose him from the RIGHT you are a hypocrite and likely racist randys1 Jun 2014 #160

Well, as this is ostensibly a "left-wing" board Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #185

then i am stunned that you would NOT agree that practically ALL opposition to him randys1 Jun 2014 #186

I would say that this is correct about 99% of the time Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #187

Oy. Skidmore Jun 2014 #2

Ok... Not Hyberbole... What Do Yo Think Is A Major Mistake Obama Has Made ??? WillyT Jun 2014 #5

He tried to work with the pukes? WhiteTara Jun 2014 #7

Yes He Did... And Got Bupkis Every Single Time.. WillyT Jun 2014 #9

I don't about the OP premise WhiteTara Jun 2014 #10

So... You'd Rather Have A Rah, Rah, Echo Chamber ??? WillyT Jun 2014 #14

OP premise "We Are Not Allowed To Criticize The Pres?" WhiteTara Jun 2014 #15

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #21

It's not a game I play. I have things to do. WhiteTara Jun 2014 #32

NSA? Bankers Prosecution? to name a few Katashi_itto Jun 2014 #33

Will you please name a few good things that this President has done?! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #34

Credit card bill of rights is a big one he got done. karadax Jun 2014 #106

Quite a few: Xyzse Jun 2014 #97

With a side order of strawman. Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #25

Snowden is awesome!!1 tridim Jun 2014 #3

Well I Of Course, Agree With That... WillyT Jun 2014 #6

To be or not to be. That is the question. mfcorey1 Jun 2014 #4

Wheel. Of. Outrage!!! JoePhilly Jun 2014 #8

It's Nice That You Are Satisfied... It's Gotta Be Profoundly Relaxing... WillyT Jun 2014 #11

Willy, why are you taking a pot shot post about repukelickins boston bean Jun 2014 #12

It's A Legitimate Question... WillyT Jun 2014 #17

Are you saying you agree with republicans on some issues boston bean Jun 2014 #18

No... What I'm Suggesting..Is A Decoupling, A Separation... Where Legtimate Criticsm, Is Delinked... WillyT Jun 2014 #27

It's the Repubs right, too. 840high Jun 2014 #28

Yep... For Over 200 Years We've Had That Right. WillyT Jun 2014 #31

I love your posts -I'm a fan. 840high Jun 2014 #38

Thank You... And Watch The Hell Out !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #39

Is it not your right to also praise them and stand up and cheer ... sheshe2 Jun 2014 #41

Here's The Problem She... When I Post Those Kind Of Threads... Nobody Notices, Or Cares... WillyT Jun 2014 #42

Willy. What are you saying here? sheshe2 Jun 2014 #47

No... What I'm Saying... Is That GOP AssHattery Is Less Focussed On Than Obama Critiques... WillyT Jun 2014 #49

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #154

Yup! He sure did. Unfrickingbelievable! nt sheshe2 Jun 2014 #155

Classic! zappaman Jun 2014 #157

Oy. Not that I'm surprised, but... greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #164

LOL Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #184

Um, there's a thread still going Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #116

I don't doubt there are some that are, do you? boston bean Jun 2014 #117

I like spicy food Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #119

yeah, I do. Can you answer my question now? boston bean Jun 2014 #120

He's probably just going to sniff around it. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #122

No Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #124

actually that post says it is a small percentage here. is this like "not all men" bettyellen Jun 2014 #139

How about rally around our president while the RWNJs try to destroy him for doing what's right? Liberal Veteran Jun 2014 #13

... WhiteTara Jun 2014 #16

Jesus... Nobody's Trying To Destroy Him... In Fact... Nobody Can Ever Vote For Him Again... WillyT Jun 2014 #19

"Nobody's Trying To Destroy Him": Are you high? Liberal Veteran Jun 2014 #20

I suspect that the purpose of his/her post ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #22

Ok... Let's Try It This Way... Under What Instances, Is It Ok To Criticize The President On DU ??? WillyT Jun 2014 #29

When I disagree - I criticize. Period. 840high Jun 2014 #40

Have A Good Night... Will Await You're Answer Tomorrow... WillyT Jun 2014 #52

Here's the thing: Republican criticisms of the President are wildly irrational - Maedhros Jun 2014 #56

That Would Be Nice... + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #57

Whenever one finds something ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #90

you're right- it is Hillary they are trying to destroy. Obama is just for them to shit on in the bettyellen Jun 2014 #140

This place has proven itself incapable of doing that for a looooong time now Number23 Jun 2014 #30

Um, you criticize the President everyday, so it seems that it's allowed. blue neen Jun 2014 #23

Are posts like this where DU is now? JaneyVee Jun 2014 #24

it must bother some to see DU attack the right wing JI7 Jun 2014 #43

Well, as he said ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #156

You're welcome to go to Freepland and criticize all you want. RBInMaine Jun 2014 #26

Well... That's Gotta Be The 1,100th Invitation For Me To Leave DU... Thanks For Your Concern... WillyT Jun 2014 #37

You absolutely have every right! Phlem Jun 2014 #35

Thank You... WillyT Jun 2014 #44

I see you do it everyday. bravenak Jun 2014 #36

Not In This Thread... WillyT Jun 2014 #45

Wont happen. bravenak Jun 2014 #48

Beautifully stated. blue neen Jun 2014 #50

I wish we had that. bravenak Jun 2014 #54

I Voted For Him Twice... Sent Money... Volunteered Time... WillyT Jun 2014 #51

Never a good word uttered about that man without a qualification and a gripe. bravenak Jun 2014 #53

So How Do You Feel About WillyT Jun 2014 #55

I liked the article. bravenak Jun 2014 #58

You are free to set your bar somewhere inside a black hole located in the center of the earth TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #121

I do not get what you mean. bravenak Jun 2014 #142

Your window of "reality" is too limited to be the basis of anything, your compass dominated by the TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #188

"For a site dedicated to the Democratic party this place is low on posters that make up much of the bettyellen Jun 2014 #60

That is what pisses me off the most. bravenak Jun 2014 #62

Ah Betty... That's The Thing That Nobody Wants To Acknoweldge... WillyT Jun 2014 #65

you seem to misunderstand, the actual Party has a large number of minorities who support the JI7 Jun 2014 #68

and what does this self examination have to do with women and POC in the party? bettyellen Jun 2014 #70

JFK's Acceptance of the New York Liberal Party Nomination WillyT Jun 2014 #73

so what does this have to do with us now, and women and POC feeling like a minority here- when in bettyellen Jun 2014 #77

Sigh. bravenak Jun 2014 #76

yeah, that was a weird dodge- but I think the essense of it is that there are big men thinking big bettyellen Jun 2014 #78

Another nostalgic moment. bravenak Jun 2014 #81

yeah, LOL white dudes always forget the "good old days" were only good for them. AWKWARD. bettyellen Jun 2014 #83

So nostalgic that he just posted a thread about a post you made in GD. bravenak Jun 2014 #84

Ah yes....JFK and the 1960's Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #85

I don't think the privileged see how foul it is to wish us all back in time to the good old days. bravenak Jun 2014 #86

I'm a white liberal who is looking for a new FDR. amandabeech Jun 2014 #181

This I can dig Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #182

Thanks for reading my post. amandabeech Jun 2014 #183

I'd say it's deflection. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #107

They forget about us, women and minorities when they wax nostalgic. bravenak Jun 2014 #143

Sure is, brave. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #144

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Jun 2014 #99

There are those here that their theme song is Home On The Range hobbit709 Jun 2014 #46

I guess you haven't noticed but it's an abattoir of criticism against the President here. Whisp Jun 2014 #59

I thought you Obama haters claimed it was his policies? berni_mccoy Jun 2014 #61

The Obama "Haters" That Voted For Him Twice, Gave Money, And Volunteered Time ??? WillyT Jun 2014 #63

"We are not allowed to criticize him?" berni_mccoy Jun 2014 #64

You Could Put Me On "Ignore"... WillyT Jun 2014 #66

And miss a chance to call out hypocritical bullshit? berni_mccoy Jun 2014 #67

LOL !!! - Just What I Thought !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #69

Au contraire berni_mccoy Jun 2014 #71

helllo berni! nice to meet you. apparently we have been seen conspiring before... bettyellen Jun 2014 #80

+ a million Number23 Jun 2014 #163

This post is incredibly lame. Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #72

But Are You Ok With That ??? WillyT Jun 2014 #74

Sure Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #75

That's Great To Hear.... WillyT Jun 2014 #79

Well that toon you posted was certainly racist Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #82

The image source cop is in time out. /nt pintobean Jun 2014 #135

Say they aren't ok with it. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #108

I think it's funny that BOGers only participate in threads that directly name the President BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #87

You get em BrotherIvan!! bravenak Jun 2014 #88

Well.... Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #91

clearly not one of the cool kids! bobduca Jun 2014 #92

Gotcha Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #94

Yes! bobduca Jun 2014 #96

Here you go... Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #98

YES! bobduca Jun 2014 #103

Friend of yours from way back?...nt SidDithers Jun 2014 #100

Who now? No I am shunning the outsider. May I have an application to the cool kids club plz? bobduca Jun 2014 #105

.. BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #113

There's no balance BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #114

Honestly Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #118

Call outs? BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #123

Yes Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #125

I await your wisdom on this thread BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #127

Was hoping to see a sample of Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #128

yeah, just like this OP is not about policy - but about the discussion here- and the OP admits they bettyellen Jun 2014 #129

Too many double standards Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #130

I am wondering if BOGer was the "group" I was pegged as being part of.... bettyellen Jun 2014 #131

It's a catch-all derisive slam Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #132

The BOG is ridiculous! zappaman Jun 2014 #134

I am very neutral about it- wasn't it around before he was president? I don't care either way but I bettyellen Jun 2014 #137

It was around before he was president... greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #162

Agreed, for that very reason. nt Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #149

Well, I'm not a member of the BOG zappaman Jun 2014 #133

and I don't think you are a vocal feminist here either, right? Nikki and I know each other bettyellen Jun 2014 #136

Apparently I am an "authoritarian" zappaman Jun 2014 #150

Alerters are being summarily dismissed by Hosts?... SidDithers Jun 2014 #141

sure, there are a few that look down on any who alert, are making note if a person alerts frequently bettyellen Jun 2014 #145

Weird, huh? zappaman Jun 2014 #153

... Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #172

So clearly alerts are not anonymous etherealtruth Jun 2014 #146

not in the hosts forum- which is a shame, since they seem untroubled by the admitted bias. bettyellen Jun 2014 #147

SOP alerts (that go to the host forum) are not anonymous. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #158

Ah, I never realized that juries didn't see the names of alerters- I'm starting to think they should bettyellen Jun 2014 #166

That's not a bad idea but likely would be impossible to do... greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #167

oh wow, that is bad. You're right about context- it matters more than the alerter or alertee does. bettyellen Jun 2014 #168

Yep, sad isn't it? greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #170

It explains the libetarian influence getting stronger. Many hosts are completely anti lock or bettyellen Jun 2014 #171

Yet MIRT bans newly signed up libertarians all the time. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #174

yeah, and it is sort of amazing they want to prevent moderation completely with one "strong leave" bettyellen Jun 2014 #175

I cheered when Admin shut down Meta. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #176

I'm aghast that RW sources are gaining such acceptance here. And most have forgotten Skinner has bettyellen Jun 2014 #177

And it's attitudes like that that are causing members to leave. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #178

I agree, I think that Plaid Adder, Kephra, and many others would not recognise this place anymore. bettyellen Jun 2014 #179

You'd think the 2016 election was next week or next month! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #180

Because they don't care about policy or economics, Maedhros Jun 2014 #109

Perfect! Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #112

that's because you consider activism, caring about policy to be posting on an internet forum JI7 Jun 2014 #138

I keep thinking this is a substitute for video games for some here- the "gender war" sounds like bettyellen Jun 2014 #148

o brother.... Whisp Jun 2014 #89

Translation: Haven't the GOP suffered enough? FSogol Jun 2014 #93

That's all you do- criticize the president. KittyWampus Jun 2014 #95

And post right-wing Scott Stantis cartoons. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #104

Have you been threatened with arrest or something? sufrommich Jun 2014 #101

I really don't get this. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #102

Criticizing the President seems to be the only thing some of you are interested in. phleshdef Jun 2014 #110

If you aren't in 100% lockstep with every nuance if the president's agenda leeroysphitz Jun 2014 #111

Please report to Room 21 Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #115

Apparently your temporary exile did not improve your manners. randome Jun 2014 #126

We Have Manners Here ??? - Who Knew ?? WillyT Jun 2014 #161

We should be allowed to criticize the president. yallerdawg Jun 2014 #151

Go ahead; you know you will! ;) nt babylonsister Jun 2014 #152

I'm not your mommy or daddy. I am responsible for underthematrix Jun 2014 #159

Hero worship Zorra Jun 2014 #165

Umm... is somebody keeping you from criticizing the President? If so, they suck at it (nt) Recursion Jun 2014 #169

Well, since you do it daily, and get lots of Recs, I guess it is allowed. MineralMan Jun 2014 #173