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BainsBane

(57,740 posts)
27. No one can convince others to care about people other than themselves
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jun 2014

That requires a certain capacity for compassion and empathy that cannot be instilled by any media. I would think that people who don't listen to acquaintances are unlikely to take more seriously what comes out of a TV set. But who knows?

For that scenario you describe to transpire, society would have to be structured differently. Wealth would not be concentrated in the hands of the few, who are not coincidently overwhelmingly white and male. Corporations would not be owned entirely by white men, and power would not be wielded almost exclusively by white men. People would be educated and socialized differently, and they would grow up less resistant to ideas of inclusion. If the word were not based on race, class, and gender inequality, people would not be so invested in keeping the majority of the population down for the benefit of themselves. Race is of course the last vestige of power, and has been since the late-17th century. No matter how poor a man was, he at least was not black, and that mattered a great deal. That basic phenomenon has sadly not changed, as all these posts crying bout "leave white men alone" demonstrate.

So given the nature of the society we live in where whiteness and maleness carries a great deal of privilege, even absent economic wealth, I think not. Too many people appear to be invested in keeping the majority of the population subjugated in whatever ways they can. For some their power is minimal, limited to working to shut people up online and drive them off a message board, but they guard it carefully. I have learned more about the performance of white privilege online than anywhere, especially observing people cry persecution that someone dares utter the word privilege. That they feel entitled to control speech and thought shows just how intractable their privilege is.

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Old white guys voting enmasse for conservative fuckheads make tackling corruption impossible. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #1
Didn't the old white guys want Romney to be president? Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #2
They don't. But they certainly aren't helping. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #3
True, true. AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #4
"To be fair"...... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #5
Somehow, I get the impression that you missed the point.....although that'd be more charitable...... AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #9
Sorry, no, it is white people. AngryAmish Jun 2014 #6
Yeah right. retread Jun 2014 #7
Numbers PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #8
You look at those dismal numbers and talk about throwing people out retread Jun 2014 #12
considering he only got 51% of the total vote PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #13
THANK YOU. woo me with science Jun 2014 #10
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #11
Shhhh! Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #14
Another dismissive lecture Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #15
K&R Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #16
If those promoting "old white guys" as the problem could receive unlimited coverage... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #17
LESWORMs ... ? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #18
Back in the day... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #19
No one can convince others to care about people other than themselves BainsBane Jun 2014 #27
In short, a revolution is needed to change outlooks. While the reasoning is Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #32
Let's instead promote the false equivlency that black people control the levers of power BainsBane Jun 2014 #22
So do you have an answer to my question? Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #23
Answered in the wrong spot BainsBane Jun 2014 #28
Saw it. Thanks. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #33
Two isn't a few BainsBane Jun 2014 #20
Haven't seen you in the Gungeon for a while. Things going well? Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #24
Had enough of the charade BainsBane Jun 2014 #29
Discussionist is kind of underwhelming. I have checked in Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #34
"But you don't get to control what others care about." Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #30
It's both. ananda Jun 2014 #21
A big part of it. Autumn Jun 2014 #25
No worries JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #26
kicking. CORRUPTION. woo me with science Jun 2014 #31
kick woo me with science Jun 2014 #35
kick woo me with science Jun 2014 #36
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