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63. Sure, but show me the list...

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:39 PM

Jun 2014

Of law breakers with security clearances that fled the country. Ellsberg 'faced the music.' That's all I've ever said that Snowden needs to do to be on par with Ellsberg.

Surely you're not going to put a guy who fled the country to avoid prosecution in the same category as our founding fathers?

It isn't that he broke the law that I find objectionable - it's that he ran off to another country with secrets.

It's one thing to stand up and fight against injustices - it's a very different thing to identify injustices and then run off to another country and share those injustices with them.

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Al Gore: NSA's Law-Breaking Worse Than Snowden's - USNews [View all] WillyT Jun 2014 OP

"Paging a bus for Al Gore" Aerows Jun 2014 #1

LOL !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #4

LOL WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #13

Heh Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #18

Just what I was thinking. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #19

essentially calling him a whistle blower.. G_j Jun 2014 #2

Thank You For That !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #40

Under the bus President Gore goes! 1000words Jun 2014 #3

President Gore Jamastiene Jun 2014 #52

Then may they BOTH face a jury of their peers... o wait... uponit7771 Jun 2014 #5

Good. All the more reason for Snowden to come back and face the music. He has a viable defense. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #6

I'm Sure When The Attorney's Involved Strike Some Sort Of Iron-Clad Deal, He Will... WillyT Jun 2014 #7

No--they won't. He will have to submit himself to custody before a deal can be msanthrope Jun 2014 #8

You said that already. I'm sure Gore, intelligent as he is, knows why Whistle Blowers can no longer sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #39

Gore did say (you will notice) that Snowden is NOT a hero Blanks Jun 2014 #9

"The former vice president also said bvar22 Jun 2014 #33

It can count if you want it to... Blanks Jun 2014 #36

If you witness a crime in action, should you remain silent because there is a law that sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #43

Ok, then Snowden can come home and face a jury... Blanks Jun 2014 #47

No, he cannot. And if you don't that, you haven't been following the issue of how Whistle Blowers sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #58

No, it's not... Blanks Jun 2014 #59

I prefer to ask those who have experienced what happens to Whistle Blowers here. Manning was sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #60

Daniel Ellsberg "broke the law" and he is a Hero. bvar22 Jun 2014 #62

Sure, but show me the list... Blanks Jun 2014 #63

I didn't see where he said 'Snowden is not a hero'. He said this in response to the sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #42

I did paraphrase... Blanks Jun 2014 #44

I wouldn't expect him to call him a hero, but unlike Kerry eg, he does not view him as a traitor sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #46

I believe Kerry also called him a coward... Blanks Jun 2014 #48

He did not leave the country with classified information. He took nothing with him. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #57

Isn't It Amazing ??? WillyT Jun 2014 #61

I think those who genuinely want the truth, take the trouble to get the facts, willy. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #65

Why the criminals on SCROTUS didn't want Al Gore to be President. Octafish Jun 2014 #10

heh heh -- "SCROTUS" nashville_brook Jun 2014 #11

You know what they say about Teabaggers? Octafish Jun 2014 #12

I repeat...Al, you've lost your marbles. SoapBox Jun 2014 #14

On the contrary, he is joining a growing number of respected Americans who care deeply about the sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #45

Excellent. 840high Jun 2014 #15

I continue to be fascinated by DU posters that insist on focusing on the small crime Maedhros Jun 2014 #16

+1. historylovr Jun 2014 #17

You learn a few things hanging from a wall for 10 years. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2014 #21

That you do. historylovr Jun 2014 #35

That would be not being able to see the forest for the tree (s) syndrome. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #22

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #20

I believe this statement by Al sums it up perfectly. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #23

Anytime Uncle Joe, Anytime... And Thanks For The Quote !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #24

A total surveillance nation is cancer to democracy and combined with Citizens United, Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #27

That's What I'm Afraid Of Too... Did You Catch THIS: WillyT Jun 2014 #29

Not to mention this, which dropped like a rock for some reason, possibly because Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #32

I Saw That... It Was AWESOME !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #41

You tell them Al... Hubert Flottz Jun 2014 #25

That's what they are fighting so hard for, to keep that money flowing into this fake, we know that sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #66

The rich tax dodgers don't care... Hubert Flottz Jun 2014 #67

Maybe not all of them, but enough apparently to keep the scam going. That is what has to change. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #69

NSA's conduct is worse than Snowden's... BlueCheese Jun 2014 #26

On Snowden, I agree with Gore ProSense Jun 2014 #28

Me Too... WillyT Jun 2014 #30

heh heh nt grasswire Jun 2014 #34

Me three, but Gore also said this, which by the way isn't texted or bolded on your OP. This is Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #31

I am appreciative he has gone on the record..thank you Al Gore. K&R Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #37

EXACTLY !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #49

Absolutely WillyT, we need more voices of course, yet Gore's was a very important one. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #54

Word !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #55

Kick! n/t BuelahWitch Jun 2014 #38

Kick and Recommend! countryjake Jun 2014 #50

K&R Jamastiene Jun 2014 #51

I will go with Al on this Leme Jun 2014 #53

Al Gore doesn't understand that it's only metadata and that only Papa Paul Loving Libertarians are neverforget Jun 2014 #56

I can't believe that Al Gore fell for this. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #68

Very even handed and level response. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #64