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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 01:40 AM Dec 2011

To those who dislike #Occupy, or consider disliking it due to anything you may call impolite [View all]

...what if the forces so desperately functioning against it, win?

What if we go back to business as usual?

Banks foreclosing at whim, with impunity; ending the call to remove money from politics; food and energy prices rising due to Goldman Sachs speculators; the NDAA and other attacks against the bill of rights not being fully rejected...and, with a report that one half of the US citizenry entering poverty, to end the newly-formed conversation piece of "Income equality"? Much less any forum in which the majority may have a voice or KNOW they are creating positive change?

There are many issues #Occupy has managed to truly begin to bring to sanity. Banks are beginning to negotiate on toxic loans, the conversation has changed to income equality, the homeless and rejected are again being discussed as should be in any compassionate society, the unemployment rate for college graduates at something like 25% and climbing, the usury of student loans and university fat cat paychecks, unions and union strength (this at a time when they are thanks to Reagan etc. at the verge of death), the impunity of nation-wide police brutality...

What if we go back to business as usual? What are a few vacant lots and mic check'd photo op speeches compared to going back to riding that particular bobsled downhill to dystopia? That we are even discussing #Occupy demonstrates that it is having an effect, in spite of police brutality and MSM demonization.

#Occupy may act in ways of which the majority may not approve. The majority who need everything to be friendly and peaceful. Who forget that the powers that be are at war with #Occupy because they threaten the status quo of corporations as people and endless corporate monies in politics. Those who are happily starving millions through hiking up food prices through commodities speculation (same as they're doing with oil), are happy to see the majority flinch over a port shutdown targeting the worst malfeasance...the bad guys win if you flinch at anything that will either hurt the bad guys, or force the bad guys into the general conversation. They would be overjoyed, and would laugh mockingly, if the 99% told #Occupy to stop bothering the nice speculators.

This is a peaceful revolution, although it may have its louder moments. The bad guys demand that it does, and they will have victories. Ignore them. Stay on target. We have changed the conversation, we are changing the direction of the world and are returning its voice. This is as important as voting.

Sitting in your armchair, judging an attempt to bring freedom to the world, you are at risk of discarding the very thing that would free you. I do not speak for #Occupy, no single person does, but the gist is there. I know that some Democrats will feel threatened by any change or challenge to the system, that some will outright reject such in hopes that things will be made better by doing the same thing over and over, and that some will be turned off by what they see as noise and attitude on the part of the protest. Well, it IS a protest, against that which must change or else. It is a joyous thing, but it must also have its toughness, against that which would kill it, and further enslave us all. I am reminded by a fine DUer that fully one third of the colonies did not support the revolutionary war. Hopefully we may accomplish this thing regardless, and in spite of.

I know that delineation here at DU shall only increase, as it is increasing world-wide along all lines. This is the Trend. Whatever your chosen position, please continue working to force positive change. We have seen that a few tents on a foreclosed property re-taking by its unlawfully evicted owner can force banks into sanity and fairness. Here's hoping that you will all also force the problems into sanity and fairness! It is true: The will of the people shall not be ignored. That is key.

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Love OCCUPY. Thrilled with the way they learn and adapt. aquart Dec 2011 #1
Me too! tblue Dec 2011 #24
I support Occupy. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #2
Here is a perspective from history nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #3
... Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #4
I don't "Demand" anything... brooklynite Dec 2011 #12
You do that' nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #13
Ah...protesting malfeasance and not shutting up about it IS voting. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #14
You have not kept up with Occupy if you 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #26
Well Said... KharmaTrain Dec 2011 #32
Last time I checked the Four Seasons was open and no one was lynching their Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #33
I didn't really read your message, but you seem to be setting up a false opposition. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #5
Read post number three nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #7
Sorry, but you're wrong. TheWraith Dec 2011 #9
that is why it is registering voters nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #10
Can you provide a link about the San Diego arrest? randome Dec 2011 #20
Not one but many nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #21
He was arrested because building management did not want him setting up a table. randome Dec 2011 #22
WHOOSHH!!!! nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #23
I can though, tell this early 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #27
Elizabeth Warren may prove you wrong. n/t Zalatix Dec 2011 #11
Um, no, that would be proving me RIGHT. TheWraith Dec 2011 #67
If politics was worth i_sometimes Dec 2011 #56
They said the same thing about abolition in the 1840s. TheWraith Dec 2011 #68
I do not i_sometimes Dec 2011 #70
Read up on the American Anti-Slavery Society. TheWraith Dec 2011 #71
Done! i_sometimes Dec 2011 #72
we've been waiting a long long time 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #29
Occupy all the way! n/t Zalatix Dec 2011 #6
k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #8
I can't think of a better chance of getting the change we need than through OWS. pacalo Dec 2011 #15
Buy then some warm clothing, no serious nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #16
Your support is more powerful than you may realize. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #17
Group A: DLC/Third Way whatevertheyares, and republicans, are generally critical Zorra Dec 2011 #18
... Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #19
That seems to be it in a nutshell emulatorloo Dec 2011 #41
I support Occupy 100% 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #25
What is a force against it? treestar Dec 2011 #28
The 2010 elections? Did you forget to work to defeat the GOP? Or perhaps the Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #34
You cannot be serious. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #38
Taking over public spaces for one group's use is NOT the same as conducting a protest. randome Dec 2011 #40
Well you may be right in the sense that we have the right to be in those public spaces Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #60
What's the difference, few cops, 1400. No difference. /nt jtuck004 Dec 2011 #43
And take a glance at this article about corruption in our government: Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #39
Reality tells me.. 99Forever Dec 2011 #30
FWWM is correct. At this point, it is OWS or die. You will be crushed to support Empire Huey P. Long Dec 2011 #31
We will make mistakes.... daleanime Dec 2011 #35
Kick Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #36
I fully support #occupy BobbyBoring Dec 2011 #37
kick in support of Occupy deutsey Dec 2011 #42
Occupy Woke Up This Dumb Country otohara Dec 2011 #44
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #45
99% of the angst is because Occupy has not thrown in with the Democrats TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #46
Spot on. i_sometimes Dec 2011 #48
+1000 SammyWinstonJack Dec 2011 #50
word!!! KG Dec 2011 #57
A proud K and R 56... i_sometimes Dec 2011 #47
Occupy is our only hope. ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2011 #49
i love the way they make noise barbtries Dec 2011 #51
Occupy is our only chance at a civil nation. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #52
A worldwide movement can't be condemned b/c someone thinks some "were rude." Stupid to suggest. DirkGently Dec 2011 #53
I support Occupy , 100% Vanje Dec 2011 #54
how sad that you need to defend the 99% and oWs on this forum. but good for you for having the patie robinlynne Dec 2011 #55
This is Democratic Underground. Nobody here would "dislike" #Occupy. nt NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #58
I do not "dislike" them however I do DISLIKE SecurityManager Dec 2011 #59
Noted. i_sometimes Dec 2011 #66
The OWS movement used passive resistance to garner support from the 99%. They applegrove Dec 2011 #61
I have never seen any politician endure what the protesters of OWS have girl_interrupted Dec 2011 #62
Great post, you should make it an OP so more people see it. Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #63
I agree. There are some wonderful posts in this thread Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #64
Thanks for all you have been doing to promote #Occupy Generic Other Dec 2011 #65
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #69
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