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McCamy Taylor

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68. "Men are not oppressed" is a lie. Both genders are oppressed in the US.

Mon Jun 16, 2014, 01:09 AM

Jun 2014

Women are told they can cry but not get angry. Men are told they can get angry but not cry. When you are denied one of the three basic emotions, you are oppressed. Period. Our culture is cruel to both genders. Our culture needs to evolve from both directions.

Now, outside the US and Western Europe, it is a whole direction story. Worldwide, women are indeed oppressed and they need some help. But the oppression of women worldwide also oppresses their sons, husbands and fathers---the men just do not realize it, because they have been brainwashed.

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Trash the group. That's the easiest way to deal with them. MADem Jun 2014 #1

Trashing doesn't help the situation. Just as ignoring people doesn't either. cui bono Jun 2014 #15

Alert and make a case, then. MADem Jun 2014 #46

That's not the point. The point is sexism, just like racism and bigotry, should not be allowed cui bono Jun 2014 #48

It won't flourish if your alerts are compelling. MADem Jun 2014 #55

This sounds a lot like blaming the victim. We either have standards or we don't. cui bono Jun 2014 #61

Geezus! Saying alerts have to be compelling.. ananda Jun 2014 #66

Look, not everyone is sensitized to EVERY issue. MADem Jun 2014 #76

some men outed themselves as rapists here and werent banned. apparently it doesnt register as an roguevalley Jun 2014 #53

Who did that, and wasn't banned? nt. polly7 Jun 2014 #56

it was on a rape thread and i will try and find it. it makes me sick to even remember it roguevalley Jun 2014 #62

I think I saw and posted in one of those threads. polly7 Jun 2014 #71

If you alert on these posts and they are consistently not hidden by juries Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #2

Trash and ignore only sweep things under the rug. cui bono Jun 2014 #16

There are plenty of very offensive posts in the women's forums Gman Jun 2014 #3

Such as? People are offended at varying degrees. However, sexism should not be tolerated cui bono Jun 2014 #17

I too am wondering what's so offensive. Disagree all you want, but why be personally bothered? nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #28

Name one. nt alp227 Jun 2014 #29

Wait until Clinton runs. joshcryer Jun 2014 #4

It is in the list of things to ignore nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #5

And ignored for a long, long time apparently. cui bono Jun 2014 #18

Sexism is still deeply entrenched in the Democratic party. Much like society... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #6

Since you haven't been able to visit much, you're probably not aware pacalo Jun 2014 #7

I have it trashed by key word libodem Jun 2014 #9

Way to go, libodem. pacalo Jun 2014 #11

Wrong forum tkmorris Jun 2014 #8

the admins dont like to admit mistakes. esp ones in which they were amply forewarned. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #10

ding! ding! ding! Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #24

trash those pathetic losers Skittles Jun 2014 #12

kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2014 #13

'Men' deserve a place to discuss issues they're concerned about just as do any other polly7 Jun 2014 #14

Men do not suffer systematically for being men. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #19

Oh fuck that. polly7 Jun 2014 #23

Men committing suicide does not mean men are systematically oppressed for being men. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #26

Men are systematically oppressed under the same system women are in many ways. polly7 Jun 2014 #35

Yes, many men are oppressed under the system. But not for being men. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #37

For being human beings. polly7 Jun 2014 #38

I do not discount anyone's suffering. I do, however, choose to classify it correctly. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #39

'Classifying it correctly'? polly7 Jun 2014 #44

You are missing the point that sexism is systemic. cui bono Jun 2014 #51

I KNOW sexism is systemic. polly7 Jun 2014 #54

There is no legitimate MRA movement. It is a front for hegemonic masculinity. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #65

I don't give two shits about the MRA movement. polly7 Jun 2014 #70

Both are here. Only one is legitimate. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #75

The larger point is that they don't have to be "oppressed" to have their own group. MADem Jun 2014 #50

You're right, MADem. nt. polly7 Jun 2014 #58

Again I ask, who here wants a White's Group? Who wants to lead the White's Group? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #63

You're actually trying to say the men's group here - members of a progressive polly7 Jun 2014 #69

Yes, but generally the Men's Group members like to come out and sully the threads cui bono Jun 2014 #21

And the same goes whenever a man brings up an issue. polly7 Jun 2014 #30

Do not confuse reality with fiction. There is no gender war. There is gender colonialism. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #33

Bullshit. polly7 Jun 2014 #36

I can understand that. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2014 #42

And they do alert on it, I've also seen quite a few banned from their group for being sexist and polly7 Jun 2014 #47

Wow. flvegan Jun 2014 #20

From that I take it you are more in favor of animal rights than women's rights. n/t cui bono Jun 2014 #22

You are ridiculous, I'll say it. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #25

But you are puzzled and using a variant of traveler. cui bono Jun 2014 #41

His gf rec'd the thread. no worries. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #27

Spell that out for me. flvegan Jun 2014 #31

Back it up? I read your post. If I misinterpreted it I apologize. But I saw snark in there when cui bono Jun 2014 #40

You made an accusation. I called you on it. flvegan Jun 2014 #43

I just did. I even included an apology if I had misinterpreted your post. Do you want to resolve cui bono Jun 2014 #45

No, you didn't. flvegan Jun 2014 #57

Why are you wanting to fight so badly? I apologized if I misinterpreted your initial post. cui bono Jun 2014 #64

No, don't shut up. If you need something explained ask for explanation. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #60

mainstream websites are male-dominated, a systematic problem in the first place alp227 Jun 2014 #32

While I don't endorse doing away entirely with the Men's Group - and I have posted there on occasion nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #34

Let me give in insight as to why maybe DU community doesn't agree with the broad brush strokes Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #49

Everyone has the right to an opinion. And I think some posters have been unfairly maligned. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #72

I stand up for myself. And DU was the only liberal site that did not tombstone Hillary in 2008. McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #52

What in the hell are you talking about? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2014 #59

Something you choose to continually ignore and deny and pretend to not exist. n/t cui bono Jun 2014 #73

I'm a grown woman and I can stand up for myself. ohheckyeah Jun 2014 #67

+1000. We're not weak little flowers who have to eliminate groups to polly7 Jun 2014 #74

"Men are not oppressed" is a lie. Both genders are oppressed in the US. McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #68

I think ultimately the problem is that the jury system doesn't work. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #77