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Volaris

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31. I might not actually have a problem with that; here's why....

Tue Jun 17, 2014, 06:31 PM

Jun 2014

The issuance of a presidential pardon is sort of like the Forgiveness of Sins lol, inherent to the ACCEPTING of the pardon is the acknowledgement of the pardoned persons that INDEED, crimes were comitted. It would be fun to see if any of them are smart enough to say "well I didn't accept the President's Pardon, why would I need to I did nothing wrong."..
I bet only Tricky Deck Cheney would be slippery enough to try it. The rest are just too dumb.
And that's something that can get printed in every history textbook until the end of time.

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UN Could Prosecute Bush for War Crimes, Says Ex-U.S. Terror Czar [View all] damnedifIknow Jun 2014 OP

If only... Marie Marie Jun 2014 #1

Vast chasm between Could and Would. nt valerief Jun 2014 #2

Recommend. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #3

Yeah we on a long dark road OverseaVisitor Jun 2014 #4

Members or not, I've always wondered why the ICC has not done it. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #5

It doesn't MATTER if the United States is a member... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #16

And the non-member nations are... Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #20

It's also why he had to get an authorization of force agreement to make murder legal. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #21

Just sickens and enrages me, as it has since 2003. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jun 2014 #6

The use of quotes around International Criminal Court and progressive OnyxCollie Jun 2014 #7

The ICJ itself is not dictator-dominated, it is headed by a former Canadian Supreme Court judge and Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #8

Neither the US nor Iraq are parties to the Rome Statute, the ICC has no jurisdiction. tritsofme Jun 2014 #9

President O will pardon them all, mark my words. For the good of The People. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #10

He cant issue a pardon for the Hague. eom TransitJohn Jun 2014 #11

So, what's your point. Do you think the "Hague" will come and get them? Do you support rhett o rick Jun 2014 #13

the op is about the hague JI7 Jun 2014 #17

He has no power over international law. nt stevenleser Jun 2014 #12

And they cant come here to arrest them. So what good is a trial and conviction without them? rhett o rick Jun 2014 #14

No. He won't pardon them as far as the US is concerned, and cannot pardon them from international stevenleser Jun 2014 #24

Even in this theoretical situation, you are incorrect. tritsofme Jun 2014 #15

No, I'm not incorrect. These folks have already been found guilty in one international court. stevenleser Jun 2014 #23

Found guilty by a symbolic panel, not the ICC tritsofme Jun 2014 #25

I might not actually have a problem with that; here's why.... Volaris Jun 2014 #31

IMO they will all treat a pardon as vindication. If I was the President and B613 allowed it, I rhett o rick Jun 2014 #32

or, is it possible to convict a Deadman of warcrimes, post humously? Volaris Jun 2014 #33

Don't know much... ReRe Jun 2014 #18

While I don't think the invasion and subsequent war in Iraq was a good idea, Jenoch Jun 2014 #19

Since the establishment would never allow the prosecution of any Republican war criminal, may all indepat Jun 2014 #22

I should like to be able to love my country and still love justice. Albert Camus Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #26

Sadly... Mike Nelson Jun 2014 #27

Dictator-dominated United Nations? Fawke Em Jun 2014 #28

Oh no that won't do, got to stick with the narrative General. Rex Jun 2014 #29