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In reply to the discussion: Post removed [View all]Tommy_Carcetti
(44,532 posts)You just posted an article so poorly written that no individual human being wants to take credit for writing it.
At least Robert Parry's not afraid to put his name on the swill he puts out.
Okay. Let's look at this for a second. Go ahead and assume everything in the cables to be true and correct. Exactly what does it show? That the US State Department had a couple of conversations with a notable Ukrainian politician years ago? The title of the article makes it sound like Poroshenko was a paid US government employee up until the time he was elected President of Ukraine. In fact, the cables just purport that the U.S. State Department had a handful of conversations with Poroshenko. It's likely that the State Department talks all the time to all sorts of foreign politicians.
So exactly what does this mean? Did the US magically stage an election after it magically staged a coup? That's the problem here. This article starts out with the premise that there was a coup in Ukraine. There was no coup. None.That's a complete and utter fiction. Then you have an election heavily monitored by various foreign organizations and deemed to be fair and democratic. If somehow our ultimate goal was to get Poroshenko into the presidency, how'd we pull the full and fair election charade? Is OSCE also comprised of US government employees?
These are bright and shiny objects. Meant to fascinate gullible and simple minded people who are attracted by bright and shiny objects.
Here's what happened. The wonderful folks at SCG (Storm Clouds Gathering) "News" ran a word search of thousands upon thousands of Wikileaks cable documents for "Poroshenko". They happened upon this random document from 2006 apparently showing some random conversation Poronshenko had with the US State Department. They figured new Ukrainian president....US State Department.......and then they knew the tinfoil crowd who insists there was a US led coup in Ukraine will eat it up like candy. Which, looking over the responses to this post, some have.
How does this show there was a coup? Like everything else.....it doesn't.
But kudos to citing to the wonderful "news" source that is SCG News. Why, look at this wonderful article they wrote last year repeating every comical grounds for President Obama's impeachment like a Freeper at CPAC:
http://stormcloudsgathering.com/barack-obama-the-case-for-impeachment-scg-news-5152013
Yup. Those are the guys you want to be citing. Good find.