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msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
96. So after your last thread on this hit a mighty FAIL...you start a new thread????
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 09:49 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025157462

I note this thread has even LESS information about the important reforms that the DOE is doing on behalf of SPED students, and I think that is a shame...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/states-special-education-services-face-tighter-oversight-by-the-obama-administration/2014/06/23/a103031e-fb36-11e3-b1f4-8e77c632c07b_story.html

As the mother of a disabled child, I am offended at the lack of information your posts provide. I cannot guess at the motive you have in not properly informing parents.


To The Jury...it is not against the TOS to provide links to prior threads....admin gave us a search box to do just that.
K & R historylovr Jun 2014 #1
Yes, he does. madfloridian Jun 2014 #22
If he knows about education he would know that students do have IEPs Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2014 #80
Agreed. Next we will be hearing that with the right therapy and treatment, people with mild, DhhD Jun 2014 #23
Thanks for your comments. The ARD sounds like a more advanced form of what we called madfloridian Jun 2014 #36
Arne needs to be booted out, not just called out Demeter Jun 2014 #33
Clueless markmyword Jun 2014 #39
Here! Here! n/t amandabeech Jun 2014 #71
Arne Duncan Needs to Go... CorporatistNation Jun 2014 #127
As one who has worked with special needs student I can only say Autumn Jun 2014 #2
.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #9
Yes! Applause and much appreciation for madfloridian and Diane Ravitch - both are heroes. DamnYankeeInHouston Jun 2014 #38
We discussed this a bit TBF Jun 2014 #3
The final results won't be pretty. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #28
DURec leftstreet Jun 2014 #4
Presumably, his boss has no say in what Arne does. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #5
Agree completely madfloridian Jun 2014 #10
Since we're 6 years in and Arne hasn't been fired yet, I am going to assume that the president Doctor_J Jun 2014 #13
No question about it. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #27
oo oo, remember "Cabinet of Rivals"? MisterP Jun 2014 #40
It takes time to turn a big ship around!!! QC Jun 2014 #19
Why on earth would you think he would do that? woo me with science Jun 2014 #6
Sadly, I think Pres Obama has given Arne a free hand to do what he wants. As an riversedge Jun 2014 #7
That is the point I was trying to make. madfloridian Jun 2014 #8
I know, mad. I really do. woo me with science Jun 2014 #73
Denial is more than a river in Egypt Demeter Jun 2014 #34
fingers in ears, stamping their feet Skittles Jun 2014 #86
That'll never happen, he can't even find his comfortable shoes. bahrbearian Jun 2014 #11
.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #91
What a complete idiot that man is. Squinch Jun 2014 #12
You forget who hired him and keeps him employed Fearless Jun 2014 #14
Shhhhhh! We're not supposed to talk about that! n/t QC Jun 2014 #25
Recommend............ KoKo Jun 2014 #15
I'm a parent of a child with autism and I disagree. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2014 #16
I agree that sometimes the placement of a LibDemAlways Jun 2014 #20
Of COURSE there should be expectations. Certainly. For sure. madfloridian Jun 2014 #21
there is no correlation between expecting academic progress and high stakes testing nt msongs Jun 2014 #26
As a substitute teacher who is frequently assigned to LibDemAlways Jun 2014 #17
Do they think that my grandson, who has Downs Syndrome will grow out of it? Dustlawyer Jun 2014 #18
Arne's words indicate he really thinks they will excel. madfloridian Jun 2014 #30
Do you think a person with Down's Syndrome is unteachable? Android3.14 Jun 2014 #41
You know what? You are really making up stuff that is not even implied in the OP or in anything... madfloridian Jun 2014 #45
Then you must mean that Android3.14 Jun 2014 #49
No I do not mean that. I did not say that. I did not even imply that. madfloridian Jun 2014 #50
Are you saying, then, that high expectations and a good curriculum are unnecessary? Android3.14 Jun 2014 #55
No, I did not say that. madfloridian Jun 2014 #57
That's the thing. I am beginning to wonder if you know what you are saying Android3.14 Jun 2014 #84
The OP's last thread on this hit a FAIL..... msanthrope Jun 2014 #97
Each new IEP is set at a higher than the previous expectation and curriculum objectives. IEP DhhD Jun 2014 #67
Sounds right to me Android3.14 Jun 2014 #83
When I taught Down Syndrome kids in 2010 , I had to teach them Algebra if they were HS age. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2014 #68
I have also taught math to kids with Downs Android3.14 Jun 2014 #78
I can't speak for New York dsc Jun 2014 #89
I've taught the geometry version of that class Android3.14 Jun 2014 #116
My son with autism got a "C+" in algebra this year. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2014 #92
Yes, because all special needs kids are just like your son kcr Jun 2014 #108
Some are. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2014 #128
I'm not advocating sequestering kids in special ed classrooms kcr Jun 2014 #150
How old is your son and... if you know it... what's his IQ? n/t Smarmie Doofus Jun 2014 #129
15 and I have no idea. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2014 #130
It's important to know. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2014 #131
No, I'm saying that in the special ed classroom, there's little incentive for progress. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2014 #146
OK. But I was originally referencing specifically kids w. Down Syndrome: Smarmie Doofus Jun 2014 #178
I recently attended a disabilities conference. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2014 #181
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #24
I have absolutely no idea.... ReRe Jun 2014 #29
It must be painful to hear for those who work with special ed, and for parents of students madfloridian Jun 2014 #32
You are spreading misinformation again Android3.14 Jun 2014 #42
Please read these two articles. madfloridian Jun 2014 #46
You, your son, the teacher all are responsible for his education. What are his needs, what will make AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #58
of course Android3.14 Jun 2014 #63
I am wondering how long you can throw accusations at me without people noticing.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #64
I'm sorry, madfloridian, but your are speaking nonsense Android3.14 Jun 2014 #79
You know what? Whatever you say. madfloridian Jun 2014 #82
I noticed... Fairgo Jun 2014 #104
.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #106
A nasty and ridiculous post that underscores your lack of argument here. woo me with science Jun 2014 #88
Now it's a wierd strawman Android3.14 Jun 2014 #114
You love that word "wierd" & used it in several posts, & a great adjective to dismiss something AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #142
It is a great adjective Android3.14 Jun 2014 #151
Yes, weird is a great adjective...especially when it is spelled right. madfloridian Jun 2014 #160
Current testing does not decide the academic future of the student - it just determines the school's AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #65
The only repercussions if a student decides to tank a test is to the school & teacher. A student can AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #69
Weaponized testing Fairgo Jun 2014 #105
As a matter of fact, I am familiar with that sort of curriculum Android3.14 Jun 2014 #81
Holy Smoke, where do I begin? 1st I don't demand anything from you. 2nd "some hypothetical AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #85
Redirect-redirect Android3.14 Jun 2014 #112
It is demeaning. The child should be seen as a child 1st - not "some special ed child" your words AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #140
CC and IEPs are unrelated in this context Android3.14 Jun 2014 #148
...... madfloridian Jun 2014 #132
Do you know what the word "Standardized" means, as in "Standardized Testing"? WinkyDink Jun 2014 #135
Are you aware that Testing is what a Charter School group of Profiteers uses to take down public DhhD Jun 2014 #70
I was wondering about Dallas home rule. I am going to follow your link. madfloridian Jun 2014 #117
WHAT??? WHAT????? What part of special needs does he not understand??? DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #31
Misuse of testing Android3.14 Jun 2014 #35
Yes the President should call Duncan out, elleng Jun 2014 #37
Misleading OP Android3.14 Jun 2014 #43
No, it is true. Already happening. Be sure of your facts before you accuse me. madfloridian Jun 2014 #47
Wrong...again Android3.14 Jun 2014 #53
If I taught? Yes, I taught for many years. You think I am troubling in what I post? Accusation... madfloridian Jun 2014 #56
Again, misinformation Android3.14 Jun 2014 #119
I don't need you to agree with me. madfloridian Jun 2014 #120
You've been around here since '06, but you don't know if mad taught. Odd. Mc Mike Jun 2014 #107
Substituting Common Core for an IEP is what Duncan is trying to change. Profiteers like Mitt DhhD Jun 2014 #72
You put that clearly. madfloridian Jun 2014 #74
Show me, please, evidence Android3.14 Jun 2014 #75
IEP = Individualized Education Plan, which is developed between parents & group of specialists, AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #76
It's your assertion, it's incumbent upon you to provide links to back it up... lumberjack_jeff Jun 2014 #90
It is cruel to put demands & pressures on a child who does not have the ability to AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #44
Thank you. Very kind and sensitive post that truly shows understanding. madfloridian Jun 2014 #52
Helping the special needs child towards his/her best possible future, w/their self esteem intact is AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #62
Every student has pressures and demands. That is as it should be. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2014 #94
These students do have a rigorous curriculum. Expectations/demands are made and tracked. AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #138
No, madfloridian is not making stuff up. No, not writing misleading stuff. madfloridian Jun 2014 #48
That post-er is a mere mosquito in the Taj Mahal. Mc Mike Jun 2014 #98
Now a friend has joined that person. madfloridian Jun 2014 #99
Ignore them, they are clueless as to the topic and only want to disrupt. Rex Jun 2014 #102
..... madfloridian Jun 2014 #103
Yes....we with disabled children are "clueless." I mean....why would anyone take us into msanthrope Jun 2014 #167
It may be small comfort, Mc Mike Jun 2014 #113
I am noticing that. It's much appreciated. madfloridian Jun 2014 #115
You're getting the 'special treatment' because you're 'threateningly' effective. Mc Mike Jun 2014 #118
I know what they are doing. Just told me again that I posted misinformation. madfloridian Jun 2014 #121
Thanks for the o.p., by the way. Mc Mike Jun 2014 #136
wow . . . just wow DrDan Jun 2014 #51
I've worked with developmentally challenged children ages 6 to 17. no_hypocrisy Jun 2014 #54
Exactly Android3.14 Jun 2014 #60
It gives you an idea how *little* either of them understands about *any* of it. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2014 #59
Good for you. Impressive group. Whew, I hope this post is worth the bruises I've gotten. madfloridian Jun 2014 #61
Doesn't seem that Duncan Donuts has EVER been a real teacher. alp227 Jun 2014 #66
AD knows. Of course, he knows. But he ALSO knows that there's $$$ to be made from selling WinkyDink Jun 2014 #77
Scary thought, but it might be the motivation behind his plan AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #87
He's never going to call him out. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #93
I think you're right. 840high Jun 2014 #110
Keep hoping. He never will if he hasn't by now. ancianita Jun 2014 #95
I know. madfloridian Jun 2014 #122
... ancianita Jun 2014 #124
So after your last thread on this hit a mighty FAIL...you start a new thread???? msanthrope Jun 2014 #96
Um MFrohike Jun 2014 #123
Thank you for emphasizing my point...that the OP discussed none of this at all, but instead relied msanthrope Jun 2014 #164
Yeah, that's not what I did MFrohike Jun 2014 #169
It is like having an entire school board that hates the idea of education. Rex Jun 2014 #100
TN school head on conference call with Obama...SP Ed should take same test as all others. madfloridian Jun 2014 #101
No, my "last post" was not a FAIL...I linked to it in this OP. Was the link even read? madfloridian Jun 2014 #109
40 rec...but ya someone seems to be jelly of you! Rex Jun 2014 #111
Keep on posting, madfloridian, we need to get more people to understand this issue. greatlaurel Jun 2014 #125
I agree on those 2 core groups. madfloridian Jun 2014 #126
As the father of a special needs child, I'm appalled. Sadly, though, I'm not surprised. Duncan ... Scuba Jun 2014 #133
Appalled at what, specifically? Android3.14 Jun 2014 #134
I'm appalled at most everything Duncan has done. More testing for special needs kids? Another ... Scuba Jun 2014 #137
Your link doesn't address CC or special needs students Android3.14 Jun 2014 #145
You can assume whatever you like. Duncan is bad for schools, kids and their parents. Scuba Jun 2014 #147
Again, you are making assumptions Android3.14 Jun 2014 #152
A billionaire reformer when Arne was chosen: The stars are now aligned. madfloridian Jun 2014 #139
madfloridian - I appreciate you & your efforts to help children. THANK YOU! nt AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #141
Thank you. madfloridian Jun 2014 #143
I just watched GOP Reince Prebus on MTP using similar verbiage/language as some DU posters AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #144
Also - Thank you for staying to fight the good fight. DU is often tedious to read due to AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2014 #149
The more push back you are getting means your message is hitting home. greatlaurel Jun 2014 #153
Pity is a lousy tool in rhetoric Android3.14 Jun 2014 #154
You need to reread your own posts here. madfloridian Jun 2014 #155
Still no defense? Android3.14 Jun 2014 #157
Wow. madfloridian Jun 2014 #159
You're really good at giving orders and making demands, Mc Mike Jun 2014 #163
Oh pshaw Android3.14 Jun 2014 #165
Since you feel that you're the arbiter of what is 'substantive', your demand is impossible to Mc Mike Jun 2014 #186
My "A"s to your "Q"s Android3.14 Jun 2014 #187
Here's a few notes, professor Mc Mike Jul 2014 #188
SO you would rather IMPLY I lie about being retired teacher...won't come out and say it? madfloridian Jul 2014 #189
Perhaps duty called A elsewhere. nt. Mc Mike Jul 2014 #190
I hope so. madfloridian Jul 2014 #191
That post-er was very inconsistent. Jarringly so. Mc Mike Jul 2014 #192
Well at least you are big enough to admit you lost a debate. Rex Jun 2014 #156
Of course Android3.14 Jun 2014 #158
Poor madfloridian... madfloridian Jun 2014 #161
Wierd. Rex Jun 2014 #162
Be suspicious when you feel as though you are posting to a wall, or merrily Jun 2014 #176
That is how it feels. Trying to nail Jello to a wall. Exactly. madfloridian Jun 2014 #180
Another post with same problems. Did not believe I was a teacher. June 11 madfloridian Jun 2014 #166
Well, you alerted on me for posting "old stuff" but it is not against the rules. msanthrope Jun 2014 #168
Goose, gander...and all that. madfloridian Jun 2014 #170
So you admit to posting old threads, but alerting on me for posting old threads? nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #171
There you go again. I link to MY old posts. So do you. madfloridian Jun 2014 #172
Well, I link to your old posts, too! What of it? Are you suggesting that on DEMOCRATIC msanthrope Jun 2014 #173
Are you referring to Goose, gander? Old saying, very old. Older than Ronnie. madfloridian Jun 2014 #174
OMG...did you miss where you quoted RR? Come on....I know you and I are both old enough msanthrope Jun 2014 #175
This is getting to be disturbing. I don't know even what to say to you anymore. madfloridian Jun 2014 #179
Dude..... msanthrope Jun 2014 #182
First off, I'm not a dude. 2nd you are really reaching on that reagan stuff madfloridian Jun 2014 #184
I know you are not male...."Dude" is universal.... msanthrope Jun 2014 #185
I hope that totally destroying public education isn't Obama's legacy emsimon33 Jun 2014 #177
K&R nt raouldukelives Jun 2014 #183
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