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29. I Suspect, Sir, You Have No Idea What My Views In 2008 Were

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 03:51 PM

Jul 2014

It seemed to me there was so little difference between the actual positions and orientations of Sens. Clinton and Obama that most of the vitriol between their supporters was artificial, whipped up to let people feel there was a great difference.

I also observed that there was an element which ranged itself with Sen. Obama here, and quite vociferously, not because they actually agreed with him or supported him, but because he was a vehicle they could employ to vent their long-standing hatred of Sen. Clinton. Once Sen. Obama looked likely to win election, many of these people turned on him, and now spend a good deal of time attacking him in exactly the terms and tones they formerly did in attacking Sen. Clinton.

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NYTimes notices Hillary's natural affinity toward the neocons. [View all] betterdemsonly Jul 2014 OP

This isn't the NY Times noticing anything.... DonViejo Jul 2014 #1

It is my opinion too betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #2

That's fine, and I don't have a problem with that... DonViejo Jul 2014 #3

Thank you. Beacool Jul 2014 #8

Comparing this piece with Klein is the height of silliness. cali Jul 2014 #45

the op did just that bigtree Jul 2014 #48

Afternoon kick betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #4

More opinion piece trash being pushed as fact. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #5

Did she or did she not actively support the appointment of Kagans betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #7

that was Obama's choice, he nominated her. bigtree Jul 2014 #11

Well if you think Nuland is so wonderful betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #13

Neolibs and neocons are first cousins sharing their love in American Exceptionalism. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #6

this is a contrived article designed to inflame bigtree Jul 2014 #9

Progressive punch scores were used to make Lieberman look betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #14

The only fact needed to know is she took Koch money to start the DLC. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #30

There is precious little actual data in those tables. Maedhros Jul 2014 #34

Not Really The tines, Sir, Just Heilbrunn The Magistrate Jul 2014 #10

Yea he is a right winger and he is quite clearly praising Clinton! betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #17

Does Not Sound Like Praise, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #20

We don't coronate people in this country betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #21

No, Sir, We Elect Them The Magistrate Jul 2014 #23

Not until after she wins the primary betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #24

I Suspect, Sir, You Have No Idea What My Views In 2008 Were The Magistrate Jul 2014 #29

Many people genuinely disliked the war. It isn't just hatred. betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #35

In Other Words, Sir: You Own To Membership In The Group Described In The Final Paragraph The Magistrate Jul 2014 #38

No I don't because you are trying to make it out like betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #39

A Difference Without a Distinction, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #40

In your mind hating someone and hating their policies is the betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #41

Your Tone in Denunciation, Sir, Makes Clear You See No Distinction The Magistrate Jul 2014 #42

Another subjective betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #43

Surely, Sir, You Do Not Imagine Yourself An Objective Observer? The Magistrate Jul 2014 #44

strawman now n/t betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #46

So You Are a Believer In Ritual Chants, Sir? The Magistrate Jul 2014 #47

Why do you default to calling people "Sir?" betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #49

Gosh, does anyone wonder why "the Media" is pushing Ms. Clinton again as the inevitable? Atman Jul 2014 #12

friendly with Murdoch, right? reddread Jul 2014 #15

I don't even know where you're beginning... Atman Jul 2014 #27

murderer reddread Jul 2014 #28

now that the "assume" cliche has played out reddread Jul 2014 #32

At least you confused me even more. Atman Jul 2014 #33

Back to cliches reddread Jul 2014 #36

Finally its put on the table! !!! mylye2222 Jul 2014 #16

you've adopted two clear right-wingers' attempts to put a wedge between Hillary and the Dem party bigtree Jul 2014 #18

Whatever betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #22

The Media’s Made-Up Catfight Between Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren bigtree Jul 2014 #25

I didn't post that story betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #26

you posted the ancillary article and referenced the first one with your link bigtree Jul 2014 #31

You better vote for Hillary or you are a "surrender" monkey. L0oniX Jul 2014 #19

If Democrats want my vote in the 2016 Presidential Election, Maedhros Jul 2014 #37