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bart95

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2. i agree, white's cant imagine what it's like to face employment discrimination

Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:16 PM

Apr 2012

"Our goal is clearly not to find a qualified U.S. worker ... our objective is to get this person a green card,"

And how does an employer go about doing that in light of the legal obligation to first search for a qualified American? It's all about where you search, he says.

"Clearly we are not going to find a place where the applicants are most numerous, we're going to find a place where - again we're complying with the law - and hoping and likely not to find qualified worker applicants,"

And if despite looking in all the wrong places a gem of an American candidate pops up anyway?

"If someone looks like they are very qualified, if necessary schedule an interview; go through the whole process to find a legal basis to disqualify them,"

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This is for those who don't think there is any such thing as White Privlege [View all] Taverner Apr 2012 OP

Let me add... Taverner Apr 2012 #1

i agree, white's cant imagine what it's like to face employment discrimination bart95 Apr 2012 #2

OK - now imagine this facing you on every job Taverner Apr 2012 #3

yeah, i think i understand what you're saying bart95 Apr 2012 #4

Saying that pnumonia is worse than the flu doesn't mean everyone should get pnumonia. jeff47 Apr 2012 #11

Nice and succinct. redqueen Apr 2012 #13

Well said! JustAnotherGen Apr 2012 #20

Ding ding ding! Zalatix Apr 2012 #29

People have been telling that poster the same thing since they joined DU a few weeks ago stevenleser Apr 2012 #56

Oh, I fully realize that there's a pity party going on jeff47 Apr 2012 #60

i think you understand noiretextatique Apr 2012 #18

No no this isnt about guilt Marrah_G Apr 2012 #32

"i'm guilty becasue of my skin color" fishwax Apr 2012 #43

I think it comes out that way in popular discourse a lot of the time, however. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #48

I rarely see it that way -- though it's not unusual to see people respond defensively fishwax Apr 2012 #57

I agree that people will respond defensively, even when the discourse of privilege isn't HiPointDem Apr 2012 #58

I think it's rarely used as a stick to poke anyone with fishwax Apr 2012 #59

Do you always make yourself out to be the victim, therefore lunatica Apr 2012 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author jeff47 Apr 2012 #10

Look at black unemployment levels, the video you cited hurts blacks far more than whites. Zalatix Apr 2012 #6

yup, h-1b discrimination pretty much blows blacks out of IT completely bart95 Apr 2012 #8

You are certainly twisting yourself into some fairly interesting knots over this. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #9

not just the tech sector noiretextatique Apr 2012 #19

Really, we need to get past this and deal with PLUTOCRAT privileges Zalatix Apr 2012 #30

Bingo! Aerows Apr 2012 #34

And there's a very tight historical connection between plutocrat privilege and the system of HiPointDem Apr 2012 #47

+1000 noiretextatique Apr 2012 #69

Sorry but that's a total load of shit, try being white and filing a complaint with the EEOC just1voice Apr 2012 #53

try being black and filing a claim with EEOC noiretextatique Apr 2012 #70

What's really sick are those who deny it exists because they are white and have money issues. arbusto_baboso Apr 2012 #5

You got it. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #7

Very true Taverner Apr 2012 #12

Actually Chris Rock pointed it out in one of his stand up routines and it made me stop in my tracks. Happyhippychick Apr 2012 #14

"And I'm RICH!" arcane1 Apr 2012 #27

I would aspieextrodinare Apr 2012 #83

I have a feeling that most of the people in the audience Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #85

koppel's nightline experiment on race noiretextatique Apr 2012 #17

I remember you mentioning this before! Number23 Apr 2012 #65

everyone needs to see that nightline segment noiretextatique Apr 2012 #68

Your baby girl (cyber granddaughter) is doing just fine Number23 Apr 2012 #80

I don't think that experiment proves any sort of white privilege hfojvt Apr 2012 #81

sure...i would like to earn as much as a white male noiretextatique Apr 2012 #86

but this is about white advantage, about male advantage hfojvt Apr 2012 #88

THANK YOU. From the bottom of my heart. Number23 Apr 2012 #64

I tend to think it is sick hfojvt Apr 2012 #82

unless, of course, one is in certain african nations lol nt msongs Apr 2012 #15

And class zipplewrath Apr 2012 #16

the problem with painting race based advantages with a broad brush bart95 Apr 2012 #21

it surprises me that so many white people in america noiretextatique Apr 2012 #23

Noir, you would have a better the average chance of NEVER MAKING IT TO THE JAIL ALIVE! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #25

sis, you are right. if i was zimmerman noiretextatique Apr 2012 #72

I agree that white privilege is best understood in terms of the system. & speaking of the Bushes, HiPointDem Apr 2012 #33

the tulsa and rosewood white riots are also revealing noiretextatique Apr 2012 #76

Yup nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #22

Yes indeed, Nadin. As a black woman, it irks me to end when I have people tell me how well I speak Ecumenist Apr 2012 #24

We have done experiments to prove it to the incredolous kind nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #26

Yep. I remember years ago, I was watching some program that was about the way that store Ecumenist Apr 2012 #37

katrina headline: white people "found" while black people "looted" noiretextatique Apr 2012 #74

The term privlege in this phrase does not mean wealth Marrah_G Apr 2012 #28

Again, do you really not get how dismissive this attitude is? Union Scribe Apr 2012 #46

you dont understand bart95 Apr 2012 #52

true allies do not dismiss the struggle of people of color in this country noiretextatique Apr 2012 #79

im white deacon1949 Apr 2012 #31

So, do you think there's no white privilege, then? cyberswede Apr 2012 #35

Well gosh, all the problems are solved then. OriginalGeek Apr 2012 #36

if it were possible, Deacon, would you change places with a black person, as in changing your skin Ecumenist Apr 2012 #38

What you personally think about yourself is irrelevant - TBF Apr 2012 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Apr 2012 #40

That poster aside, why are you advocating banning folks when you've only TBF Apr 2012 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Apr 2012 #42

No, it isn't. Union Scribe Apr 2012 #45

You're making it personal when it doesn't need to be imo TBF Apr 2012 #49

it's the grenade over the wall tactic bart95 Apr 2012 #55

Tell it to the millions of victimized white people Taitertots Apr 2012 #44

Ahhh so white people are the real victims... Taverner Apr 2012 #51

None of your examples show white privilege Taitertots Apr 2012 #61

no, there is not a racist conspriracy...just business as usual noiretextatique Apr 2012 #67

That person won't reply - too busy looking for a bar to smoke in REP Apr 2012 #50

has anyone ever read 'The Other Foot', by Ray Bradbury? bart95 Apr 2012 #54

Cenk and Tim Wise nailed this a couple years ago.. opiate69 Apr 2012 #62

+100000000 Taverner Apr 2012 #66

Wow. So true. DLevine Apr 2012 #71

Anyone who says there is no such thing as white privlege Autumn Apr 2012 #63

Or a white autistic aspieextrodinare Apr 2012 #84

loks like a bunch of links hfojvt Apr 2012 #73

I'm sorry - I am not going to engage with the "Poor Whiteys" out there Taverner Apr 2012 #75

And it's much more pervasive than this... MrScorpio Apr 2012 #77

i call this "hegemony as a natural state" noiretextatique Apr 2012 #78

Tagged for later. I must be off to play croquet and drink champagne with my rich friends. slackmaster Apr 2012 #89

I think that all of the folks who deny that white privilige exists Puglover Apr 2012 #90