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hfojvt

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95. everything you list there is an AVERAGE.

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:10 AM

Apr 2012

So the average pay of white men is higher than the average pay of other groups. A higher average does not do very much for all the white men who are below average in pay - does it?

Take the census of wealth from 2002. There's 9.6% of whites with more than $500,000 in wealth, compared to only 1.2% of blacks with that much wealth. Meanwhile, a whopping 48.4% of blacks have less than $5,000 in wealth. Doubtless the average is higher for whites than it is for blacks. However, since whites don't really live collectively, that higher average does not confer a single benefit on the 22.7% of whites who have less than $5,000 in wealth. They are not more privileged than the 12.9% of blacks with more than $100,000 in wealth.

And again, I do not understand how somebody can define "not getting raped" as a privilege. I guess I better give that privilege up and go out and try to get raped so I won't have some sort of unfair advantage.

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I Cannot Believe I Just Saw A Discussion Here Regarding The Downtrodden White Male... [View all] WillyT Apr 2012 OP

This white male agrees with you completely. arbusto_baboso Apr 2012 #1

White, chervilant Apr 2012 #26

Yes. That too. arbusto_baboso Apr 2012 #27

Being male chervilant Apr 2012 #37

+1 redqueen Apr 2012 #45

same here.... Tom1960 Apr 2012 #48

Being "white, male and southern" gave me no special privilege while I lived in the South Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #84

It only seems that way -- because, like me, you carry klook Apr 2012 #102

I don't have an "invisible knapsack" here in Japan-- Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #103

Whoa, bait and switch klook Apr 2012 #110

Not bait and switch Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #112

It's a huge advantage EVERYWHERE. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #55

Black women are more likely to be employed than black men. They're nearly twice as likely HiPointDem Apr 2012 #74

And they face the sorrowful and lonely fact Tsiyu Apr 2012 #77

I didn't say that race and gender privilege was "woo-woo," and I'm not sure how you took HiPointDem Apr 2012 #79

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #86

"why not ask why more black males are not attending and graduating from college?" lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #85

You're missing it... Fawke Em Apr 2012 #96

Thank you Tsiyu Apr 2012 #108

Men are 11x more likely to be in jail than women. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #114

and poor Stuckinthebush Apr 2012 #126

It's easy to forget if one can't point to a single manifestation of it. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #58

I DON'T have "less wealth" probably because I don't have "less education" arbusto_baboso Apr 2012 #63

Statistically, you do. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #65

But is that insitutional? NO. Emphatically, no. arbusto_baboso Apr 2012 #66

LOL, Wut? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #69

Then men need to stop it. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #98

Just speaking anecdotally, but... JAbuchan08 Apr 2012 #115

"I am also not so naive as to think that women have an advantage over men" lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #124

I meant generally speaking JAbuchan08 Apr 2012 #130

Try this in help and meta. Thanks. cthulu2016 Apr 2012 #2

Yep - I don't understand it either Taverner Apr 2012 #3

"BTW - There is only one race, the human race... I invite all to join." And I certainly teddy51 Apr 2012 #4

Oh, but you know they won't. Obamacare Apr 2012 #6

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Even so, discussions of race and racism on DU EFerrari Apr 2012 #5

how have they progressed? serious question. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #80

In the going on 8 years I've been here EFerrari Apr 2012 #91

Thanks! HiPointDem Apr 2012 #92

There are things unfair about being in any category. dkf Apr 2012 #7

What is so sad is that so many of those racists consider themselve to be religious. Somehow God libinnyandia Apr 2012 #8

Not the first time I have heard of that thought experiment The Traveler Apr 2012 #9

Is it really? hfojvt Apr 2012 #94

Reminds me of the Doonesbury comic 40 yrs ago malthaussen Apr 2012 #121

LOFL!!! uponit7771 Apr 2012 #10

I have a theory as to why this happens... philly_bob Apr 2012 #11

That's a very powerful point. n/t EFerrari Apr 2012 #12

Your theory is VERY close to what I understand the way people think about MANY subjects... uponit7771 Apr 2012 #15

Except most of the people who think minorities get an unfair advantage don't live in their HiPointDem Apr 2012 #81

I Believe It... I'm a white Male... there are tons of ignorant people out there fascisthunter Apr 2012 #13

I would push the button and become a woman zappaman Apr 2012 #14

Don't Be Bringing Humor Into This... WillyT Apr 2012 #16

That was beautiful, anyway. freshwest Apr 2012 #29

SCHEDULING ZAPPAMAN FOR ASSKICKING Skittles Apr 2012 #30

^coffee alert^ (There oughta be a menu button for this) n/t jtuck004 Apr 2012 #36

I heard that Stan posts on DU. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #99

Ha!!! Sparkly Apr 2012 #109

I have always wondered JAbuchan08 Apr 2012 #117

ptb marshall gaines Apr 2012 #17

Agreed. I don't believe TPTB are racist. That's for fools who can't see beyond skin color. freshwest Apr 2012 #31

What would you do? kramerv Apr 2012 #18

What are the means used that you protest? cosmicone Apr 2012 #19

I would do what has been proven to work; STOP the offense, make the person(s) whole... uponit7771 Apr 2012 #23

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What means might that be? You can provide as much MineralMan Apr 2012 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Apr 2012 #20

Could someone give me a link? nt raccoon Apr 2012 #21

There's a whole forum for it. noamnety Apr 2012 #25

lmao Nice chrisa Apr 2012 #32

Yes. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #22

That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. chrisa Apr 2012 #34

Funny how this works. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #57

It's different - the reason for the disparity between white and black average lifespan is because chrisa Apr 2012 #61

If lifespans were dicated by biology, then there'd be a ceiling. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #64

Biology is not the only factor chrisa Apr 2012 #67

You ran out of stereotypes to regurgitate after three? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #70

"aren't paid any more for the same work" chrisa Apr 2012 #72

So women's use of attempted suicide v. actual suicide is more an attempt to manipulate others? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #87

When men commit suicide, they are statistically more likely to try more lethal approaches chrisa Apr 2012 #113

Men use "more lethal methods" because they really want to kill themselves. They've given up HiPointDem Apr 2012 #128

everything you list there is an AVERAGE. hfojvt Apr 2012 #95

That doesn't make any sense. chrisa Apr 2012 #111

except that you are talking, right now, to just ONE white guy hfojvt Apr 2012 #118

+1000 Dokkie Apr 2012 #100

No fair!!! robbob Apr 2012 #35

Does Willard Romney qualify as part of the human race? Jamaal510 Apr 2012 #33

A great movie on this subject; greiner3 Apr 2012 #38

I would also recommend the movie "Black Like Me", a classic... Spazito Apr 2012 #41

I'd select "Native American" Kaleva Apr 2012 #39

Yeah, because we all get shares of casino profits. JoeyT Apr 2012 #44

I think it shows that it's not so clear cut. Kaleva Apr 2012 #49

That's a fairly popular racist meme used by white people in that post, the whole "get to jtuck004 Apr 2012 #50

Well, I assumed I'd still be disabled and the same age and sex. Kaleva Apr 2012 #54

If one is unaware of people's conditions perhaps they should get out more. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2012 #56

I'm well aware of the conditions around here Kaleva Apr 2012 #73

Because they're all the same 'ethnicity', right? sudopod Apr 2012 #76

Where's the gay button? I want to be gay! n/t SpankMe Apr 2012 #40

Can I make myself sexier at the same time? kudzu22 Apr 2012 #42

Chris Rock made a similar observation GOTV Apr 2012 #43

I recall that show. Incitatus Apr 2012 #93

Here's Louis CK's take on white privilege: smokey nj Apr 2012 #104

At the time I first saw that I was living in a trailer park making min wage JAbuchan08 Apr 2012 #119

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This election is to decide whose fault it was we hit the Iceberg. CAPHAVOC Apr 2012 #47

Is there a button to become A-Rod? Or Halle Berry? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #51

I could push a button and grow big boobies? Weeeeeeeeeeeee! just1voice Apr 2012 #52

Y'all don't know what it's like to be male, middle class, and white DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #53

See that's the problem right there JAbuchan08 Apr 2012 #120

When you bring the "c" word into it-- eridani Apr 2012 #59

You are correct there are ZERO white men who would rather inhabit the body of a woman. jp11 Apr 2012 #60

Sex-change data says otherwise. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #88

Sex change is not about wanting whatever privileges the other gender may have, it's about feeling DesertDiamond Apr 2012 #122

Most white males in this country are downtrodden. Along with everyone else in the country. LetTimmySmoke Apr 2012 #62

I'm not really white...more a pinkish sort of color. MineralMan Apr 2012 #68

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how about becoming an environmentalist to really know what discrimination is about wordpix Apr 2012 #82

Or, just suppose that reincarnation is what comes after we die. pacalo Apr 2012 #83

I'm going to be reincarnated as a rich Republican? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #107

Thanks, Willy T. nt MrScorpio Apr 2012 #89

Anytime MrScorpio, Anytime... WillyT Apr 2012 #90

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I rec'd one yesterday that started that way, but Lionessa Apr 2012 #123

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If you read that whole post it had a very good point. Initech Apr 2012 #127