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156. People on a progressive message board shouldn't have to be told to be offended by bigotry. nt

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Wed Jul 16, 2014, 11:41 AM

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"Nit-picking about language" [View all] BainsBane Jul 2014 OP

Well said, BB pinboy3niner Jul 2014 #1

The PM was as violent as the one Seabeyond got. sufrommich Jul 2014 #2

The comment to Seabeyond was actually in the open forums BainsBane Jul 2014 #3

She's had so many nasty things said to her sufrommich Jul 2014 #16

... madinmaryland Jul 2014 #4

I'm confused irisblue Jul 2014 #33

no, he insulted an idol Skittles Jul 2014 #58

insult + anal rape are not close in shameful behavior irisblue Jul 2014 #65

well I know that Skittles Jul 2014 #66

See #85 (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #86

Because this is JUST LIKE calling Barack Obama "a piece-of-shit used car salesman". Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #67

They may be referring to the earlier incident muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #85

I agree. Those who are puffed up with outrage over the word policing kcr Jul 2014 #5

Indeed BainsBane Jul 2014 #6

What this person said to cali in the PM was shameful Generic Other Jul 2014 #7

I am trying to clarify the situation BainsBane Jul 2014 #10

I agree. It was a disgusting and violent verbal assault. No one like that should be here. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #11

No one is insinuating any such thing. Squinch Jul 2014 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #22

K&R! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #8

That PM was beyond disrespectful - both to a woman and Marie Marie Jul 2014 #9

While I have already expressed my feelings regarding the email cali received, and newcriminal Jul 2014 #12

Context matters BainsBane Jul 2014 #20

I think someone's reaction to other people's language shows a great deal about them. newcriminal Jul 2014 #26

Again, it's about context BainsBane Jul 2014 #29

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem, newcriminal Jul 2014 #31

Now you're being deliberately rude. I'm finished. BainsBane Jul 2014 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #37

Do you have anything to contribute to this thread? BainsBane Jul 2014 #79

I usually only get offended when EvilAL Jul 2014 #100

Are you saying you don't find that PM offensive? BainsBane Jul 2014 #102

It's mean and rude. EvilAL Jul 2014 #105

it is a discussion board. we are discussing an issue. what is the problem with that? seabeyond Jul 2014 #109

It is not a problem for me at all, EvilAL Jul 2014 #117

If you have an ounce of empathy, yes. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #111

If you see someone using racist or homophobic slurs, do you find that offensive? redqueen Jul 2014 #114

This isn't about any of those things. EvilAL Jul 2014 #119

Cali received a hateful, misogynist PM. Do you find misogyny offensive? redqueen Jul 2014 #125

In person I can do something about it. EvilAL Jul 2014 #128

Do you think punching someone teaches them anything? redqueen Jul 2014 #130

I used it as an example EvilAL Jul 2014 #132

Your opinion is that people don't have to be offended by misogyny. redqueen Jul 2014 #133

Listen, EvilAL Jul 2014 #137

I'm just going by what you say here. redqueen Jul 2014 #145

No. That's not what I am saying. EvilAL Jul 2014 #151

People on a progressive message board shouldn't have to be told to be offended by bigotry. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #156

People anywhere shouldn't be TOLD to be offended by anything. EvilAL Jul 2014 #159

What you don't seem to understand is that this isn't just about being offended. redqueen Jul 2014 #161

This whole thread started from my response about being offended for other people. EvilAL Jul 2014 #163

Yeah.... ok. You're not making a lick of sense so I'm out. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #171

it unraveled a while ago, he could say he didnt like, we just couldnt say offensive. i hear ya. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #175

you do not like it. i dont either. that seems to be fine. it seem 'offended" is what offends seabeyond Jul 2014 #135

yeah, EvilAL Jul 2014 #141

I am offended by ALL bigotry. cali Jul 2014 #184

Yet you're here, arguing with us BainsBane Jul 2014 #149

I said none of that. EvilAL Jul 2014 #153

OMG. It is not about you BainsBane Jul 2014 #167

The issue isn't whether you are personally offended BainsBane Jul 2014 #122

I'm not arguing against the tombstone EvilAL Jul 2014 #124

And yet here you are taking time out of your busy day thucythucy Jul 2014 #168

I think any decent human would be offended by that pm. You are right that "people shouldn't be told. uppityperson Jul 2014 #196

" I don't get offended for other people" sufrommich Jul 2014 #106

Really? EvilAL Jul 2014 #113

So, by your standard straight white Christian men wouldn't be offended by the KKK, geek tragedy Jul 2014 #110

I don't like the KKK, WBC, Nazis EvilAL Jul 2014 #115

you just said you don't get offended about bigotry directed at anyone but yourself geek tragedy Jul 2014 #116

I think it is offensive to be told what is offensive to me, EvilAL Jul 2014 #121

so your point was to tell everyone you weren't offended geek tragedy Jul 2014 #126

I think it is a violation of the rules and the tombstone was justified. EvilAL Jul 2014 #131

Seriously? Where's your moral conscience? alp227 Jul 2014 #150

I don't think it was a nice thing to PM EvilAL Jul 2014 #157

So why parse it like that, alp227 Jul 2014 #166

good to know it is "not nice" anyway. lol. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #173

"not nice". wow. that's some strong language you're using. You really ought to tone it down. cali Jul 2014 #187

So can you explain why one should NOT be offended at things that AAO wrote like alp227 Jul 2014 #71

No I can not. What is your point? newcriminal Jul 2014 #88

OK, I see you did vote to hide AAO's post. alp227 Jul 2014 #148

Much as many others may refuse to live pretending that the back-handed compliments are righteous... LanternWaste Jul 2014 #95

the men using this giggle, laugh, chuckle, in the womans face. they wink, jab in the rib seabeyond Jul 2014 #98

Over and over again we're presented with melodrama pretending to be a premise LanternWaste Jul 2014 #140

the hypersensitive anti censorship people? lol. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #183

not entirely on words hfojvt Jul 2014 #27

Funny, the only complaints I hear on "word policing" are about those that insult women.. whathehell Jul 2014 #180

That's easy, I don't hear minorities or gays on DU newcriminal Jul 2014 #181

LOL..Not as easy as you think.. whathehell Jul 2014 #200

well said, indeed. I just saw this whole thing, and am sickened by what that poster sent to niyad Jul 2014 #13

Sometimes I question JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #154

Agreed. He wrote himself a coupon for a free tombstone pizza with that PM. Salviati Jul 2014 #15

Number of Words in the English Language: 1,025,109.8 conservaphobe Jul 2014 #17

Exactly! n/t Spazito Jul 2014 #99

The true colors were in the pm. Proclivity for ignorance. lonestarnot Jul 2014 #18

You won't see me "Nit picking about language" William769 Jul 2014 #19

That guy's PM was vile and atrocious. His instant tombstone was appropriate. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #21

wise move BainsBane Jul 2014 #23

Like this post right here. newcriminal Jul 2014 #28

pick a better example. that was surpassingly lame. cali Jul 2014 #188

I think this was a fine example. newcriminal Jul 2014 #190

I like to nit-pick hfojvt Jul 2014 #24

No, I'm not BainsBane Jul 2014 #25

yes you are hfojvt Jul 2014 #30

attributing arguments to me I did not make is not a respectful discussion BainsBane Jul 2014 #38

I can read your mind. zeemike Jul 2014 #44

I'm going to go off on a tangent here. laundry_queen Jul 2014 #32

Well said! n/t Spazito Jul 2014 #36

"Once you see it you can't unsee it" BainsBane Jul 2014 #39

That's not a tangent at all. You put it all into context perfectly. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #41

I am so sorry to hear you had such a bad life experience. zeemike Jul 2014 #54

Or maybe she's not seeing it more often than when it's actually there. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #69

What can I say? zeemike Jul 2014 #89

Enemy? Why the hyperbole? redqueen Jul 2014 #108

my boys are not tied to these sayings. when i point out, woman scorned, or all women liars, seabeyond Jul 2014 #112

"our generation, you would think we are kicking a kitten." redqueen Jul 2014 #118

you have a saying men love to use at women, to bond with peers, to laugh, giggle, wink, pat each seabeyond Jul 2014 #120

Because meta posts deserve hyperbole. zeemike Jul 2014 #143

It is hyperbole. No one is hunting anything. No one called anyone sexist redqueen Jul 2014 #146

Well FYI I don't even know who you are talking about. zeemike Jul 2014 #164

Wow, nice job trying to turn it around. redqueen Jul 2014 #172

And if you wear a victim cap, every criticism seems like victimization. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #139

Well of course you know it was hyperbole. zeemike Jul 2014 #158

So sorry that you're not interested in an actual discussion. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #162

And I did clarify intent zeemike Jul 2014 #170

And I disagreed once you did so. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #177

As powerful as the assumptions you make. zeemike Jul 2014 #182

If you don't want to read my comments to your posts, use the ignore button. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #185

You explained it well. Solly Mack Jul 2014 #62

I'm so sorry all that happened to you steve2470 Jul 2014 #63

I didn't realize my parents were narcissists betsuni Jul 2014 #84

Excellent, excellent post. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #104

It was a violent personal attack coming from a misogynist sociopath delrem Jul 2014 #34

All Meta. All the time. nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #40

I see it as discussing the discussion. cyberswede Jul 2014 #48

And we all know the players even without a program Union Scribe Jul 2014 #87

Yet, that is what brought you here from the other website. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #107

That was a well-deserved PPR steve2470 Jul 2014 #42

I can't imagine it would occur to you BainsBane Jul 2014 #43

oh never in a trillion years steve2470 Jul 2014 #45

I've read enough of your posts to know what you're about BainsBane Jul 2014 #46

yep, I was just using myself as an example which was not the best way to express myself steve2470 Jul 2014 #47

I find this banning entirely justified Blue_In_AK Jul 2014 #49

I remember that BainsBane Jul 2014 #50

Yes, that was it. Blue_In_AK Jul 2014 #57

I can't believe i missed it. bravenak Jul 2014 #51

Well, the crib note version BainsBane Jul 2014 #52

Tons?!? bravenak Jul 2014 #53

The PM's were a bannable offense bluestateguy Jul 2014 #55

That nut (AAO) had more hides in 3 months Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #56

Most of those hides came after he was banned BainsBane Jul 2014 #59

You DO realize that your post was proofread under a microscope. Right? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #60

Yeah. It's okay BainsBane Jul 2014 #61

Agreed, and I agreed with the jury that didn't hide the "scorned" OP LittleBlue Jul 2014 #64

Words matter, for some DUrs to pretend they do not seems a bit ironic considering AuntPatsy Jul 2014 #68

Have you seen anyone say they oppose the banning? BainsBane Jul 2014 #70

No, nor would I I would think if some had an ounce of common sense considering, but I have AuntPatsy Jul 2014 #72

Then you are more versed in it than I BainsBane Jul 2014 #73

I find it a bit ironic that those arguing that words do not nor should not matter to someone at the AuntPatsy Jul 2014 #75

Those same people argue that everything feminists focus on is trivial BainsBane Jul 2014 #77

Ive lost count of how many times I have heard in the case of rape, well its not really rape if AuntPatsy Jul 2014 #78

ha. i was reading a poster state calling out makes a woman weak/victim as i watch her then call out seabeyond Jul 2014 #91

I've noticed the same BainsBane Jul 2014 #103

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS redqueen Jul 2014 #123

It's not hard to understand. MadrasT Jul 2014 #138

Yes, I noticed it too. kcr Jul 2014 #136

When no one actually claimed to speak for all women BainsBane Jul 2014 #142

What's really ironic is all the nit-picking of a post on "Nit-picking about language." nt pinboy3niner Jul 2014 #74

Not at all, sometimes when a thread gets too long, many have a hard time keeping up by reading every AuntPatsy Jul 2014 #76

I think we are in agreement pinboy3niner Jul 2014 #83

anyone will recognize the conditioning fox does. but, touch one of their loves, and the argument seabeyond Jul 2014 #90

Well said! People know very well how much language matters. redqueen Jul 2014 #127

The two issues aren't related... Hofbrau Jul 2014 #80

Which two issues? n/t moriah Jul 2014 #81

Word policing and the obviously inappropriate PM.. Hofbrau Jul 2014 #82

Yes, they are. By not 'policing' sexist messages, we are contributing to the reinforcement of redqueen Jul 2014 #129

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #134

I see. BainsBane Jul 2014 #144

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #147

Women are not tense about message boards. Women are fed the fuck up with sexism. redqueen Jul 2014 #155

... cyberswede Jul 2014 #160

ya know. lol. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #176

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #179

"None to be had" BainsBane Jul 2014 #165

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #178

we have been doing it long enough to know, when "change minds and gain support" seabeyond Jul 2014 #174

Yes - that seems pretty clear. nt el_bryanto Jul 2014 #92

OK. But the fact that the member received a vile PM doesn't give her any special right Romulox Jul 2014 #93

And how do you suppose she is doing that? BainsBane Jul 2014 #94

I could live 3 lifetimes, and I could never have authored that PM. Romulox Jul 2014 #96

You of course can use any language you choose BainsBane Jul 2014 #97

What abuse? Please point to anything in my op of yesterday on sexism that you found abusive cali Jul 2014 #189

I'm referring to the responses throughout the thread to people who disagreed with you. Romulox Jul 2014 #191

examples please. and context. In other words, what was I responding to. cali Jul 2014 #192

I've said my peace on the subject. I don't think it's fair to tar me with the contents of the PM Romulox Jul 2014 #193

my pm? what are you talking about. cali Jul 2014 #198

That was a bad word choice. I apologize, and I edited. I am otherwise done here. nt Romulox Jul 2014 #199

which of course I wasn't doing. I was expressing my opinion. Just as YOU do. cali Jul 2014 #194

This is a good example of what I was talking about. nt Romulox Jul 2014 #195

really? If you think that's abusive, I question your understanding of the word. cali Jul 2014 #197

Those claiming nitpicking about words sure have my scorn. merrily Jul 2014 #101

Way behind on this but JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #152

Well said. K & R. thucythucy Jul 2014 #169

This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2014 #186

Locking Sissyk Jul 2014 #201