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So how did the Rebels shoot down the AN-26 that also crashed near Torez yesterday? FrodosPet Jul 2014 #1
One assumes it was not flying at 33,000 feet when attacked. another_liberal Jul 2014 #12
Not a bit reasonable FrodosPet Jul 2014 #19
No, it wasn't reorg Jul 2014 #88
So who is ITAR-TASS anyhow? FrodosPet Jul 2014 #2
Thank you for that . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #9
So if ITAR-TASS is correct, FrodosPet Jul 2014 #14
If I understand the situation correctly . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #17
They have been raiding and capturing Ukraine weapons FrodosPet Jul 2014 #25
We have hard evidence the Ukrainian forces had the capability to do this attack . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #27
We? maddezmom Jul 2014 #29
You and I . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #51
Nice try. maddezmom Jul 2014 #52
Meaning what? another_liberal Jul 2014 #57
You are smart enough to figure it out yourself. maddezmom Jul 2014 #59
And some emerging evidence the rebels could as well FrodosPet Jul 2014 #40
the rebels do not have an air force Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #49
Better ask the Ukrainians . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #54
do you have a link? Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #55
Did you neglect to read my OP? another_liberal Jul 2014 #58
Ukraine says army has not used anti-aircraft missiles in east Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #62
Hey nice link. Agschmid Jul 2014 #69
Link? maddezmom Jul 2014 #56
You also neglected to read my OP . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #60
I find it to be a highly dubious source maddezmom Jul 2014 #61
I read it, Agschmid Jul 2014 #71
Why would you believe anything RSTV says/reports? Boom Sound 416 Jul 2014 #84
Personally, I don't believe them any more than I do Faux News FrodosPet Jul 2014 #89
+1,000 malaise Jul 2014 #42
They quoted Ukrainian Prosecutor-General Vitaly Yarema that the rebels don't have their Buk jakeXT Jul 2014 #41
Doesn't Pass the smell test FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #3
Were you there? another_liberal Jul 2014 #8
A personal relationship with SAM systems FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #138
Even transponder amnesia like on MH 370 would help/nt jakeXT Jul 2014 #16
More bullshit from your favorite source maddezmom Jul 2014 #4
I'm quite well rested at present . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #6
What sources would you suggest? MattSh Jul 2014 #34
There are plenty others on DU right now maddezmom Jul 2014 #35
Yes, I do know that... MattSh Jul 2014 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author another_liberal Jul 2014 #5
Are you talking to yourself now? maddezmom Jul 2014 #7
Thanks . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #10
This article you post is unadulterated bullshit. boston bean Jul 2014 #11
Why would you claim that? another_liberal Jul 2014 #13
Because it is. Even though it is a lovely Summer morning. boston bean Jul 2014 #15
Only your opinion . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #20
ok, it's malarkey. Does that help? boston bean Jul 2014 #21
Naw. It's still taurine metabolic byproducts. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #23
I see what you did there... Agschmid Jul 2014 #72
LOL! Adsos Letter Jul 2014 #130
...according to RT... SidDithers Jul 2014 #18
They never did "Claim" any such thing . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #22
yes they just pushed that story Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #30
You were pushing this yourself yesterday maddezmom Jul 2014 #31
WOW!`They most certainly did claim it and you fell for the lie. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #64
TASS has been a very reliable news source over the decades Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #24
Yep, and no American military personnel have ever reported having seen UFO's . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #28
Changing the subject, are we? Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #48
more bulllshit Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #26
Do you have a link to that initial report? another_liberal Jul 2014 #32
How many times are you going to ask for a link and then ignore it? maddezmom Jul 2014 #33
The source I've seen links to is of highly dubious authenticity, to say the least. another_liberal Jul 2014 #36
you mean like your RT links Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #38
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2014 #45
You have the nerve to label those links as highly dubuous, IronGate Jul 2014 #76
are you going to ignore this video evidence Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #39
Don't misunderstand me . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #50
I think you are now pulling back, funny Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #53
Walking it back now? nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #77
Heehee!! The backtracking doth begin! nt Codeine Jul 2014 #92
Hours before the crash, Russia closed four airways near the Ukrainian border Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #37
Ukraine had also announced it was closing that part of their airspace . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #43
Link? maddezmom Jul 2014 #44
he will not supply it but demands it of others Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #47
below 32000 feet is my understanding by Eurocontrol Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #46
Why do you keep posting outright lies from Putin? MohRokTah Jul 2014 #63
That ship sailed a long time ago...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #66
Especially since it is now confirmed that the Separatists fired the missile. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #67
Confirmed? By whom? LisaL Jul 2014 #79
US Intelligence triangulated the trajectory. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #80
Just like the New York Times did the other war. Octafish Jul 2014 #103
rt again, huh? gosh, what did Infowars say about this? PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #65
This survived a jury - the op that is JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #68
Censorship isn't quite so popular this morning? Good! another_liberal Jul 2014 #70
Yes not popular, too bad your source loves it... Agschmid Jul 2014 #73
I'm juror #5 JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #74
thanks Gen.. Juror #6 has a handle on the situation.. too bad some can't figure it out. Cha Jul 2014 #75
Give it up.You're just embarrassing now.nt sufrommich Jul 2014 #78
Is this DU or Infowars? Alex Jones, is that you? n/t ReverendDeuce Jul 2014 #81
RT is not an unbiased new source. MineralMan Jul 2014 #82
An unbiases source? MattSh Jul 2014 #86
Not RT, when it comes to Ukraine. MineralMan Jul 2014 #96
Not any news source attached to any government involved with Ukraine? MattSh Jul 2014 #117
Frankly, I do not rely on any single source of news. MineralMan Jul 2014 #118
I long for the simpler days when the Putin fans were merely defending inhuman bigotry toward Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #83
you really crack me up, so what is it about mother Rus-Si-A you love so much? snooper2 Jul 2014 #87
You know that Ukraine isn't engaging in ANY antiaircraft activities, right? Simple reason... stevenleser Jul 2014 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author moondust Jul 2014 #94
Yeah, let's just forget the constant complaints about "Russian" air attacks reorg Jul 2014 #97
So, you think the Ukranians would even paint a Russian plane with fire control radar? stevenleser Jul 2014 #98
I submit to your special military expertise on that reorg Jul 2014 #99
It's not silly. Whose planes are they going to shoot down, Russia's? stevenleser Jul 2014 #100
Sure. When they prepare to take over Donetsk they're not going to defend themselves reorg Jul 2014 #102
That's right, they're not. Because they know it would cost them their country. stevenleser Jul 2014 #106
I didn't know you were one of those conspiracy theorists reorg Jul 2014 #115
Conspiracy theorist? Russia already took a part of their country. Where have YOU been? stevenleser Jul 2014 #116
Sorry, I don't follow the "tweets" of RT heads reorg Jul 2014 #123
That you don't follow news stories is something I am more than willing to accept. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #133
More evidence of how many fucking idiots there are. William769 Jul 2014 #91
Even Were One to Take This As True, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #93
MH17 Coverage From Russia Today Forces Correspondent Sara Firth To Quit brooklynite Jul 2014 #95
I'm frickin' AMAZED! MohRokTah Jul 2014 #101
Reliable news from a Russian news agency HERVEPA Jul 2014 #104
Really. They don't even employ Judy Miller. Octafish Jul 2014 #105
What is your point? Do you agree with the "evidence" offered in the article? maddezmom Jul 2014 #107
My point is that attacking the poster for mentioning RT is bullshit. Octafish Jul 2014 #110
The member uses it and believes it. Just like those who pushed Judith Miller. maddezmom Jul 2014 #112
In the USA, the press helped Nixon and Reagan (with Bush Sr) get away with treason. Octafish Jul 2014 #127
And? maddezmom Jul 2014 #128
Why do you keep insisting I answer how you want? I would think my answer was obvious. Octafish Jul 2014 #134
Well, RT is part of the Russian government which now has a war criminal at the helm. stevenleser Jul 2014 #109
Convicted of what? MattSh Jul 2014 #113
Ah, so Bush and Cheney are not war criminals because they haven't been convicted? stevenleser Jul 2014 #114
Still, convicted of what? Directly or indirectly... MattSh Jul 2014 #120
Cold But Fair, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #121
Exactly. Which is why you pushing the idea that CIA doesn't interfere with US press is so puzzling. Octafish Jul 2014 #124
That comment doesnt say what you seem to be asserting it does. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #132
No, but the thread does. You insisted CIA kept out of US news. Octafish Jul 2014 #135
So you bought into the CIA killed Hastings. Not surprised. maddezmom Jul 2014 #136
Thanks for putting words in my mouth. Octafish Jul 2014 #137
I'm beginning to think that RT should be classified along with Alex Jones, etc. KamaAina Jul 2014 #108
I've classified it as such for a long time. MineralMan Jul 2014 #111
Ironically,Alex Jones uses RT nonsense as sufrommich Jul 2014 #119
Thanks. Agschmid Jul 2014 #122
For your viewing pleasure. William769 Jul 2014 #125
RT? weren't they the ones that said the rebels didn't have the ability to do this? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #126
RT are the one's that went down the rabbit hole with Alice. William769 Jul 2014 #129
lol hrmjustin Jul 2014 #131
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