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10. If you elected Obama, financially supported Obama...

Reply to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Jul 18, 2014, 10:29 PM

Jul 2014

Then you are allowed to criticize him.

If you have class and a sense of what is proper, you criticize what is within your power to change, you clean up your own house.

Criticizing Putin may be fun, but it is a bit like masturbating and then congratulating yourself for being a great lover.

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Some on the left have defended the anti-gay, warmongering Putin a million more times than Obama. [View all] Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 OP

Truly amazing Hekate Jul 2014 #1

It is amazing RobertEarl Jul 2014 #5

Just look around GD for the RT love, and close by is the Putin love. Hekate Jul 2014 #8

Boom! William769 Jul 2014 #9

+1 NT Adrahil Jul 2014 #30

All I see are hysterical threads like this Union Scribe Jul 2014 #31

Interesting. Nobody that I've seen has said that the Commies are here... Hekate Jul 2014 #40

+1 cui bono Jul 2014 #110

Putin has not been red for years DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #178

Communist Red? No. Blood Red? You betcha... DRoseDARs Jul 2014 #183

Sorry, but if you side with Putin on Ukraine? You may be in the wrong place. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #191

Has the TOS been re-written? If so please provide. nt TBF Jul 2014 #196

Yep n/t Spazito Jul 2014 #34

Or maybe just anti-war people who don't really see events as the narrative gives it to us? machiavelliisalive Jul 2014 #93

People Understand A Position Of Pure Pacifism, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #94

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #100

Do, Please, Sir, Tell Us Of This 'Reporting That Does Not Get Seen In The West'..... The Magistrate Jul 2014 #101

Ever seen the comparison of US and European Time magazine covers? cui bono Jul 2014 #111

Quite Familiar With It, Ma'am, Though It Has Been Ages Since I Saw Even An American Cover Of It The Magistrate Jul 2014 #116

Well I would say it encompasses all reporting really. cui bono Jul 2014 #119

I Doubt Many Here, Ma'am, Restrict Themselves To U.S. Network News.... The Magistrate Jul 2014 #121

That is not my argument. I'm just saying I agree that foreign press/media is better than US press. cui bono Jul 2014 #122

Europe is not the West, now? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #136

Heh. Yeah, that was poorly done on my part. I was going to mention where those two other cui bono Jul 2014 #176

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #115

This Seems Oddly Familiar, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #117

I think not, your honor. OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #141

My Mind Takes a Dark Turn, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #144

This one signed up today. OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #148

I Am Aware Of That, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #149

That is, of course, the plain truth Your Honor. OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #157

Which way did he go? OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #179

+1. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #114

Yup...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #150

Agree n/t Strelnikov_ Jul 2014 #160

No kidding! babylonsister Jul 2014 #29

don't assume they are the left , there is a reason some feel the need to go on about how liberal JI7 Jul 2014 #2

It's funny to watch the shills slip up with a right wing bit of "common knowledge". Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #35

DING! DING! DING! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #205

Putin belongs in the same place as bush and Cheney. onecaliberal Jul 2014 #3

You should delete this RobertEarl Jul 2014 #4

Visit GD much? Barack_America Jul 2014 #11

Did it. And the results do not support the OP whatsoever. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #50

That's not a search of DU posts. Barack_America Jul 2014 #83

Why? I know the truth hurts. William769 Jul 2014 #12

Nobody gives 2 shits how you would vote or what you think should be deleted. phleshdef Jul 2014 #44

Wouldn't really help you. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Jeff Rosenzweig Jul 2014 #90

There are posters on this board mcar Jul 2014 #6

Blame false choices again.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #37

Some people hate everything American Kaleva Jul 2014 #7

Given a choice of "non-American" I'll pick Tahiti. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #41

That is what all the right wingers say about us. zeemike Jul 2014 #63

No RWer or anyone else has ever said I praise Putin or have nothing good to say about Obama Kaleva Jul 2014 #130

Liberals...progressives... zeemike Jul 2014 #132

I didn't specifically say progressives or liberals. Kaleva Jul 2014 #134

Well you are posting on a liberal progressive board zeemike Jul 2014 #135

Your'e still reading a lot more into what I actually wrote. Kaleva Jul 2014 #138

Hating the policies of your country does not equal hating your country. zeemike Jul 2014 #139

Putinistas hate the US to the point of being negative nationalists about it. stevenleser Jul 2014 #166

Well then just look into the mirror zeemike Jul 2014 #167

Nope, I have criticized the US plenty of times. None of what you wrote is correct. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #168

Well good then, you might not mind if I do the same. zeemike Jul 2014 #169

If your reasoning is completely silly and wrongheaded? Yes, I mind. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #170

Well it is silly in your mind. zeemike Jul 2014 #174

omg... the bubble you guys live in. You are as bad as the teabaggers. n/t cui bono Jul 2014 #112

If you elected Obama, financially supported Obama... Bonobo Jul 2014 #10

Lol! neverforget Jul 2014 #13

Who could refute that? lunatica Jul 2014 #27

can't my hands are busy..... neverforget Jul 2014 #62

What?...you use both hands? zeemike Jul 2014 #64

i had to type with one... neverforget Jul 2014 #66

Left or right? zeemike Jul 2014 #72

If Putin got no criticism there would be no response. joshcryer Jul 2014 #65

I doubt the POTUS is "instructed" on Putin by public opinion of the Hoi Poloi. nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #92

Gay marriage and marijuana would disagree. joshcryer Jul 2014 #95

Domestic policy and foreign policy are a bit different in the game of politics. nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #96

Yeah. joshcryer Jul 2014 #97

Talk away. Bonobo Jul 2014 #98

Deal. joshcryer Jul 2014 #99

So then the president is also instructed by public opinion on social security, the public option, cui bono Jul 2014 #118

Link one post that says "not discuss any of that." joshcryer Jul 2014 #123

Really? You don't remember all the posts about not criticizing the TPP because "it hasn't happened cui bono Jul 2014 #124

Link one post. joshcryer Jul 2014 #125

Well I tried a search and here's what I found: cui bono Jul 2014 #127

Have a good night. joshcryer Jul 2014 #128

I used something like "hasn't happened yet" because that was the excuse people were using cui bono Jul 2014 #173

So searching for my posts with something like "doesn't exist" I came up with some posts that cui bono Jul 2014 #193

Well, let me say one thing. joshcryer Jul 2014 #202

But the point being made was that there are people on DU who are so adverse to criticism cui bono Jul 2014 #203

I don't see that to be frank. joshcryer Jul 2014 #206

Well I'm telling you it has happened on many occasions on here. cui bono Jul 2014 #207

I think you're misrepresenting that MM post. joshcryer Jul 2014 #208

I gave you a stellar example and you don't want to accept it. cui bono Jul 2014 #210

So here's how politics work, in the US: joshcryer Jul 2014 #216

So here's how democracy works. cui bono Jul 2014 #217

I don't say to keep quiet. joshcryer Jul 2014 #218

Our side's teabaggers. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #14

It's not that they've defended Putin, necessarily Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #15

I do agree with that. Change out Putin for anyone and you'd get the same results, me thinks. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #16

Have gotten the same results, in fact Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #23

I think I remember that too... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #24

Most of the anti-American posters get the boot, eventually. joshcryer Jul 2014 #69

+1 Hekate Jul 2014 #19

Where? whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #17

They refer to defenses of vicious dictator Putin as "critical thinking" alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #18

Pseudo-intellectuals. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #22

Ayn Rand Paul followers Major Hogwash Jul 2014 #38

I just laugh at them! greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #142

"I just feel sorry for them now." I whole heartedly co-sign this Number23 Jul 2014 #186

Yes indeed, they have. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #20

Where? When? Links? Because without evidence it is bullshit. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #46

You had an argument with one of them who insisted RT was journalisms gold standard stevenleser Jul 2014 #151

Somehow I doubt that. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #21

It's really amusing when they howl about Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #25

Excellent observation. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #26

Psssst Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #28

Ditto! Iliyah Jul 2014 #58

I just wish they could get to Russia and have Putin as their leader.. they could post RT Cha Jul 2014 #32

Sock puppets here praise Putin. But ... they're SOCK PUPPETS. It's what they do. Sow discord. blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #33

If Obama took his shirt off and rode a steed while lunatica Jul 2014 #36

K & R Iliyah Jul 2014 #39

You know why, DI. They'll never admit it, but we both know why. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #42

Who are these people who won't admit it? Got links? Evidence? Come on! You are a smart person... Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #45

Don't feign outrage! Open your eyes right here in GD! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #48

Not seeing any defense of Putin. Perhaps you could point it out. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #53

I'm not a very clever person, and yet I've seen the implications time and again LanternWaste Jul 2014 #197

Without links this post is worthless. Got any? Of course you don't. And you won't. Pathetic.. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #43

Bullshit! DI said SOME on the left! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #52

Still have not posted any evidence that some progressives defend Putin. Criticism of Obama's Admin Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #54

Here's a tweet from one of the more prominent leftists at DU geek tragedy Jul 2014 #82

Absolute slime right there... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #107

Impressive as all get out. Especially the links below. nt Hekate Jul 2014 #108

I kind of like twitter it shows the 'world' what kind of person they really are. Sunlei Jul 2014 #129

Is that a DUer for real ? sufrommich Jul 2014 #137

A very prominent DUer. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #145

I started following her on Twitter.She's a one woman Russian sufrommich Jul 2014 #152

note the hammer and sickle iconography. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #153

Looks like she quit DU back in April over her Russia/Putin worship stevenleser Jul 2014 #162

she wasn't too pleased when her Paul Craig Roberts thread got hidden. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #163

The stuff he writes is batshit crazy stevenleser Jul 2014 #164

white supremacists typically aren't that stable nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #165

Wow. Look at today's meltdown. joshcryer Jul 2014 #198

you mean this tweet from the fascist? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #199

Heh, keep scrolling. joshcryer Jul 2014 #200

You know good and well you need to put the word leftist in quotes for that one Number23 Jul 2014 #187

Oh, to the people recommending this thread geek tragedy Jul 2014 #190

I believe in equality. imthevicar Jul 2014 #47

No lie and his hangers on.... Tikki Jul 2014 #49

and Putin did 9-11!!!111 MisterP Jul 2014 #55

No, putin was behind the air missile and training that brought down the Malaysian Airplane. Stupid Cha Jul 2014 #67

Link or slink. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #56

Just take a stroll around GD, Manny, and feel the love. It's there. nt Hekate Jul 2014 #60

I guess we'll chalk that up as a "slink" MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #61

Well, they tend to get banned. joshcryer Jul 2014 #75

The Bell Forum doesn't pretend to be anything it's not - TBF Jul 2014 #194

My journal is extremely open. joshcryer Jul 2014 #195

Link: geek tragedy Jul 2014 #77

Seriously? MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #79

Might? That person is a heroine to many here. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #80

They're over at Discussionist these days. joshcryer Jul 2014 #84

Well , they'll never be back here. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #85

The whole "right wing populism" thing boggles my mind. joshcryer Jul 2014 #86

Populism tends to be shorthand for pissed off geek tragedy Jul 2014 #87

No, I don't think Manny will answer your question Hekate Jul 2014 #113

Oh shit! Catherina has a twitter feed? Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #102

Yes, I agree. AND the thread title is a smear of the Democratic Left Tom Rinaldo Jul 2014 #171

what you say is very true. the thread would be much better stated as "some so-called members of the geek tragedy Jul 2014 #175

That same description can be used against Obama apologists as well. cui bono Jul 2014 #212

that you choose to equate Obama supporters with supporters of a fascist oligarchical dictator geek tragedy Jul 2014 #213

LOL. Way to completely miss the point. But I suspect you are purposely misconstruing what I said cui bono Jul 2014 #215

This one was a gem. Barack_America Jul 2014 #89

Actually it is a gem, but not for the reasons you think. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #181

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #57

That is a nice compilation of the talking points. zeemike Jul 2014 #70

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #78

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #59

propagating fantasies today are ya? I'm a Leftist, I've never defended Putin and no one I know has. 2banon Jul 2014 #68

If the OP doesn't apply to you, why get upset? Kaleva Jul 2014 #131

Upset? No. Frustrated by reactionaries engaged in Left Bashing, Yep. 2banon Jul 2014 #155

IKR!? Rex Jul 2014 #71

Is it "some" on the left or "good amount"? pa28 Jul 2014 #73

There was an article in GD earlier... renegade000 Jul 2014 #74

''...the murderous bigot from Russia?'' DeSwiss Jul 2014 #76

Because Putin is so cute without a shirt? McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #81

It's ironic-al, ain't it? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #88

Or maybe people might try to use empathy instead of stereotypes? machiavelliisalive Jul 2014 #91

Good grief. Well.... Hekate Jul 2014 #120

I have no empathy for the fascists here. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #158

horse shit. just like the op you're riffing off. A huge maloderous pile of it. cali Jul 2014 #103

This kind of reminds me of the Michele Catalano incident Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #104

bwahahahaha. yeah. it's not a fact that the administration announced it was cali Jul 2014 #105

Have you even seen the TPP? Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #106

Right. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #109

You're the rare exception. joshcryer Jul 2014 #126

Many of us don't trust oligarchs of any stripe. TBF Jul 2014 #133

Hear, Here! 2banon Jul 2014 #156

They aren't on the left. n/t Orsino Jul 2014 #140

it's only like 10 or 12 total, but they sure do like to POST POST POST snooper2 Jul 2014 #143

Obama needs to up his game. PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #146

Going to be hard to beat that since the bear is their national symbol. Unless... stevenleser Jul 2014 #154

Sounds like a job for Steven Colbert! Hekate Jul 2014 #182

Pootie couldn't handle an ocean BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #184

I think it's because he's coddling their boyfriend. 6000eliot Jul 2014 #147

Tall in the running for Most Useless Thread Of The Year WilliamPitt Jul 2014 #159

this reeks like rightwingnuts support of voter ID laws stupidicus Jul 2014 #161

It is amazing that it comes from the same group every time. Pisces Jul 2014 #172

And they're just about all hiding from you right now BeyondGeography Jul 2014 #177

Putin is a thug in a cheap suit... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #180

so very true heaven05 Jul 2014 #185

What a load of bull puckey. truebluegreen Jul 2014 #188

A million times more ... GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #189

There are some who call themselves Democrats that rush to judgement and JEB Jul 2014 #192

You know, some moderate Democrats are registered sex offenders Tom Rinaldo Jul 2014 #201

People are complex, but my simplest explanation of that is the audience. Xyzse Jul 2014 #204

How can you tell if they're on the left? Stellar Jul 2014 #209

Otra vez? Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #211

They can have fucking fascist putin.. I'll take President Obama.. Cha Jul 2014 #214