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Mon Jul 21, 2014, 04:47 PM Jul 2014

Russian govt and RT.com VALIDATE crucial US claim re: MH17 [View all]

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From the US assessement re MH17.

At the time that flight MH17 dropped out of contact, we detected a surface-to-air missile (SAM) launch from a separatist-controlled area in southeastern Ukraine. We believe this missile was an SA-11.

Intercepts of separatist communications posted on YouTube by the Ukrainian government indicate the separatists were in possession of a SA-11 system as early as Monday July 14th. In the intercepts, the separatists made repeated references to having and repositioning Buk (SA-11) systems.



http://ukraine.usembassy.gov/statements/asmt-07192014.html

Today, the Russians put on a dog and pony show they thought shifted the blame to Ukraine. But, they made one startling claim/admission.

Lt. Gen. Makushev also showed satellite photos allegedly portraying several Buk ground-to-air missile systems in the area close to where the plane crashed. The systems, he argued, could only belong to the Ukrainian military. The Buks were spotted in Luhansk and Donetsk by Russians, Lt. Gen. Kartapolov said, in the days leading up to the crash.


http://online.wsj.com/articles/russia-presents-its-account-of-malaysia-airlines-flight-17-crash-1405952441

In other words, the Russians showed satellite photos showing Buk missile systems in rebel-controlled territory--the crash site, Luhansk, and Donetsk are all under rebel control.

Even the hacks at rt.com couldn't overlook this:

The question that has to be answered is why the missile system appeared in the area controlled by the local militia forces shortly before the catastrophe, he stated.


http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/



The Russians try to spin this by claiming these couldn't have been rebels operating those missile systems, even though those positions were inside territory controlled by the rebels and were of zero military use to the Ukrainian military. One would have to believe that the Ukrainian military send small units without protection deep into rebel territory in order to transport missiles that could only shoot down Ukraine's own jets.

Very hard to argue against the rebels being the culprits. One wonders why the Russians released those photos.
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Yeah, Ukrainian deployment of SAM batteries makes zero sense... Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #1
Behind rebel lines at grave risk to the troops transporting them, no less nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #3
Maybe they like to drive them around or they are scared from reports about Russian planes jakeXT Jul 2014 #29
And? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #32
That is one picture from July 4th, your statement was that it makes zero sense to deploy SAMs jakeXT Jul 2014 #33
Nice catch. Wait Wut Jul 2014 #2
"One wonders why the Russians released those photos." JackRiddler Jul 2014 #4
Well, they did lie when they said it was impossible geek tragedy Jul 2014 #5
But Robert Parry's hairdresser knows a guy... SidDithers Jul 2014 #6
obviously they were trying to shoot down Putin's plane geek tragedy Jul 2014 #8
So tired of the freaking CTs who twist themselves into pretzels blaming America Cha Jul 2014 #14
And people wonder why we are not buying the propaganda shit thrown at us. William769 Jul 2014 #7
Because we're "considering the source". :( Cha Jul 2014 #15
And that bull sure has a lot coming out his back end. William769 Jul 2014 #17
Yeah, it's not our fault we were Cha Jul 2014 #24
I like to use this one. William769 Jul 2014 #25
Rofl! Too funny! Cha Jul 2014 #28
But but but Robert Parry! The patriot/journalist extraordinaire! redqueen Jul 2014 #9
I think we should wait until Parry lets us know what brand of beer bottles geek tragedy Jul 2014 #11
Not beer! Nor drunken Ukrainians, according to this video: freshwest Jul 2014 #34
Oh, wait, not so fast. It's probably beer. This is also sad: freshwest Jul 2014 #35
somebody is making money off that nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #36
Millions, it says, just on a few of the events. And those children crying. Generations lost. freshwest Jul 2014 #37
Who unfortunately is so full of shit sometimes it causes his Cha Jul 2014 #19
That's good. Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2014 #10
we should also remember renegade000 Jul 2014 #12
No, it doesn't. Igel Jul 2014 #13
according to the WSJ, Russians said the missiles were inside Luhansk and Dotesk geek tragedy Jul 2014 #16
I don't know why the fuck some people are pretending the jury is still out. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #18
Seemingly because they have to much invested in Russia Good/USA BAD. Cha Jul 2014 #20
That is the conclusion I've come to as well. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #21
They want to believe that the world is ruled by a massive neocon conspiracy jeff47 Jul 2014 #23
Thank you this news, geek. Shame on Russia trying to slither out. Cha Jul 2014 #22
I mean, who do they think they're kidding? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #30
They're "kidding" the Russians at home and the hate America first crowd.. the hate blinds Cha Jul 2014 #31
Powell-esque moment. They tried to claim an Su-25 did it. joshcryer Jul 2014 #26
Clown show. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #27
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