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Showing Original Post only (View all)Russian govt and RT.com VALIDATE crucial US claim re: MH17 [View all]
Last edited Mon Jul 21, 2014, 05:28 PM - Edit history (1)
From the US assessement re MH17.
At the time that flight MH17 dropped out of contact, we detected a surface-to-air missile (SAM) launch from a separatist-controlled area in southeastern Ukraine. We believe this missile was an SA-11.
Intercepts of separatist communications posted on YouTube by the Ukrainian government indicate the separatists were in possession of a SA-11 system as early as Monday July 14th. In the intercepts, the separatists made repeated references to having and repositioning Buk (SA-11) systems.
Intercepts of separatist communications posted on YouTube by the Ukrainian government indicate the separatists were in possession of a SA-11 system as early as Monday July 14th. In the intercepts, the separatists made repeated references to having and repositioning Buk (SA-11) systems.
http://ukraine.usembassy.gov/statements/asmt-07192014.html
Today, the Russians put on a dog and pony show they thought shifted the blame to Ukraine. But, they made one startling claim/admission.
Lt. Gen. Makushev also showed satellite photos allegedly portraying several Buk ground-to-air missile systems in the area close to where the plane crashed. The systems, he argued, could only belong to the Ukrainian military. The Buks were spotted in Luhansk and Donetsk by Russians, Lt. Gen. Kartapolov said, in the days leading up to the crash.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/russia-presents-its-account-of-malaysia-airlines-flight-17-crash-1405952441
In other words, the Russians showed satellite photos showing Buk missile systems in rebel-controlled territory--the crash site, Luhansk, and Donetsk are all under rebel control.
Even the hacks at rt.com couldn't overlook this:
The question that has to be answered is why the missile system appeared in the area controlled by the local militia forces shortly before the catastrophe, he stated.
http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/
The Russians try to spin this by claiming these couldn't have been rebels operating those missile systems, even though those positions were inside territory controlled by the rebels and were of zero military use to the Ukrainian military. One would have to believe that the Ukrainian military send small units without protection deep into rebel territory in order to transport missiles that could only shoot down Ukraine's own jets.
Very hard to argue against the rebels being the culprits. One wonders why the Russians released those photos.
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Behind rebel lines at grave risk to the troops transporting them, no less nt
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#3
Maybe they like to drive them around or they are scared from reports about Russian planes
jakeXT
Jul 2014
#29
That is one picture from July 4th, your statement was that it makes zero sense to deploy SAMs
jakeXT
Jul 2014
#33
I think we should wait until Parry lets us know what brand of beer bottles
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#11
Millions, it says, just on a few of the events. And those children crying. Generations lost.
freshwest
Jul 2014
#37
according to the WSJ, Russians said the missiles were inside Luhansk and Dotesk
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#16
I don't know why the fuck some people are pretending the jury is still out.
conservaphobe
Jul 2014
#18