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207. Well I'm telling you it has happened on many occasions on here.

Mon Jul 21, 2014, 05:45 PM

Jul 2014

That I can't find a more blunt example of it is due to it being difficult to have them come up in a search and I'm not the type who bookmarks people's post for later use.

You can surely see from what I posted that there are people who do not think anything needs discussing until it is too late. The first one is exactly that.

If you really believe what you posted that it's the opposite then I'm sorry, you are being blind. And again, it's about people not wanting to have any discussion, trying to tell people there's no reason to criticize something that hasn't happened yet or that "doesn't exist yet". That is absolutely ridiculous and if you don't think so then there's no point in continuing the discussion because that is the very foundation of our democracy. And if you don't think it's wrong to tell people to not discuss anything until it's already in place, implemented, appointed, whatever, then you simply don't believe in democracy.

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Some on the left have defended the anti-gay, warmongering Putin a million more times than Obama. [View all] Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 OP

Truly amazing Hekate Jul 2014 #1

It is amazing RobertEarl Jul 2014 #5

Just look around GD for the RT love, and close by is the Putin love. Hekate Jul 2014 #8

Boom! William769 Jul 2014 #9

+1 NT Adrahil Jul 2014 #30

All I see are hysterical threads like this Union Scribe Jul 2014 #31

Interesting. Nobody that I've seen has said that the Commies are here... Hekate Jul 2014 #40

+1 cui bono Jul 2014 #110

Putin has not been red for years DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #178

Communist Red? No. Blood Red? You betcha... DRoseDARs Jul 2014 #183

Sorry, but if you side with Putin on Ukraine? You may be in the wrong place. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #191

Has the TOS been re-written? If so please provide. nt TBF Jul 2014 #196

Yep n/t Spazito Jul 2014 #34

Or maybe just anti-war people who don't really see events as the narrative gives it to us? machiavelliisalive Jul 2014 #93

People Understand A Position Of Pure Pacifism, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #94

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #100

Do, Please, Sir, Tell Us Of This 'Reporting That Does Not Get Seen In The West'..... The Magistrate Jul 2014 #101

Ever seen the comparison of US and European Time magazine covers? cui bono Jul 2014 #111

Quite Familiar With It, Ma'am, Though It Has Been Ages Since I Saw Even An American Cover Of It The Magistrate Jul 2014 #116

Well I would say it encompasses all reporting really. cui bono Jul 2014 #119

I Doubt Many Here, Ma'am, Restrict Themselves To U.S. Network News.... The Magistrate Jul 2014 #121

That is not my argument. I'm just saying I agree that foreign press/media is better than US press. cui bono Jul 2014 #122

Europe is not the West, now? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #136

Heh. Yeah, that was poorly done on my part. I was going to mention where those two other cui bono Jul 2014 #176

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #115

This Seems Oddly Familiar, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #117

I think not, your honor. OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #141

My Mind Takes a Dark Turn, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #144

This one signed up today. OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #148

I Am Aware Of That, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #149

That is, of course, the plain truth Your Honor. OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #157

Which way did he go? OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #179

+1. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #114

Yup...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #150

Agree n/t Strelnikov_ Jul 2014 #160

No kidding! babylonsister Jul 2014 #29

don't assume they are the left , there is a reason some feel the need to go on about how liberal JI7 Jul 2014 #2

It's funny to watch the shills slip up with a right wing bit of "common knowledge". Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #35

DING! DING! DING! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #205

Putin belongs in the same place as bush and Cheney. onecaliberal Jul 2014 #3

You should delete this RobertEarl Jul 2014 #4

Visit GD much? Barack_America Jul 2014 #11

Did it. And the results do not support the OP whatsoever. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #50

That's not a search of DU posts. Barack_America Jul 2014 #83

Why? I know the truth hurts. William769 Jul 2014 #12

Nobody gives 2 shits how you would vote or what you think should be deleted. phleshdef Jul 2014 #44

Wouldn't really help you. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Jeff Rosenzweig Jul 2014 #90

There are posters on this board mcar Jul 2014 #6

Blame false choices again.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #37

Some people hate everything American Kaleva Jul 2014 #7

Given a choice of "non-American" I'll pick Tahiti. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #41

That is what all the right wingers say about us. zeemike Jul 2014 #63

No RWer or anyone else has ever said I praise Putin or have nothing good to say about Obama Kaleva Jul 2014 #130

Liberals...progressives... zeemike Jul 2014 #132

I didn't specifically say progressives or liberals. Kaleva Jul 2014 #134

Well you are posting on a liberal progressive board zeemike Jul 2014 #135

Your'e still reading a lot more into what I actually wrote. Kaleva Jul 2014 #138

Hating the policies of your country does not equal hating your country. zeemike Jul 2014 #139

Putinistas hate the US to the point of being negative nationalists about it. stevenleser Jul 2014 #166

Well then just look into the mirror zeemike Jul 2014 #167

Nope, I have criticized the US plenty of times. None of what you wrote is correct. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #168

Well good then, you might not mind if I do the same. zeemike Jul 2014 #169

If your reasoning is completely silly and wrongheaded? Yes, I mind. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #170

Well it is silly in your mind. zeemike Jul 2014 #174

omg... the bubble you guys live in. You are as bad as the teabaggers. n/t cui bono Jul 2014 #112

If you elected Obama, financially supported Obama... Bonobo Jul 2014 #10

Lol! neverforget Jul 2014 #13

Who could refute that? lunatica Jul 2014 #27

can't my hands are busy..... neverforget Jul 2014 #62

What?...you use both hands? zeemike Jul 2014 #64

i had to type with one... neverforget Jul 2014 #66

Left or right? zeemike Jul 2014 #72

If Putin got no criticism there would be no response. joshcryer Jul 2014 #65

I doubt the POTUS is "instructed" on Putin by public opinion of the Hoi Poloi. nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #92

Gay marriage and marijuana would disagree. joshcryer Jul 2014 #95

Domestic policy and foreign policy are a bit different in the game of politics. nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #96

Yeah. joshcryer Jul 2014 #97

Talk away. Bonobo Jul 2014 #98

Deal. joshcryer Jul 2014 #99

So then the president is also instructed by public opinion on social security, the public option, cui bono Jul 2014 #118

Link one post that says "not discuss any of that." joshcryer Jul 2014 #123

Really? You don't remember all the posts about not criticizing the TPP because "it hasn't happened cui bono Jul 2014 #124

Link one post. joshcryer Jul 2014 #125

Well I tried a search and here's what I found: cui bono Jul 2014 #127

Have a good night. joshcryer Jul 2014 #128

I used something like "hasn't happened yet" because that was the excuse people were using cui bono Jul 2014 #173

So searching for my posts with something like "doesn't exist" I came up with some posts that cui bono Jul 2014 #193

Well, let me say one thing. joshcryer Jul 2014 #202

But the point being made was that there are people on DU who are so adverse to criticism cui bono Jul 2014 #203

I don't see that to be frank. joshcryer Jul 2014 #206

Well I'm telling you it has happened on many occasions on here. cui bono Jul 2014 #207

I think you're misrepresenting that MM post. joshcryer Jul 2014 #208

I gave you a stellar example and you don't want to accept it. cui bono Jul 2014 #210

So here's how politics work, in the US: joshcryer Jul 2014 #216

So here's how democracy works. cui bono Jul 2014 #217

I don't say to keep quiet. joshcryer Jul 2014 #218

Our side's teabaggers. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #14

It's not that they've defended Putin, necessarily Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #15

I do agree with that. Change out Putin for anyone and you'd get the same results, me thinks. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #16

Have gotten the same results, in fact Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #23

I think I remember that too... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #24

Most of the anti-American posters get the boot, eventually. joshcryer Jul 2014 #69

+1 Hekate Jul 2014 #19

Where? whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #17

They refer to defenses of vicious dictator Putin as "critical thinking" alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #18

Pseudo-intellectuals. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #22

Ayn Rand Paul followers Major Hogwash Jul 2014 #38

I just laugh at them! greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #142

"I just feel sorry for them now." I whole heartedly co-sign this Number23 Jul 2014 #186

Yes indeed, they have. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #20

Where? When? Links? Because without evidence it is bullshit. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #46

You had an argument with one of them who insisted RT was journalisms gold standard stevenleser Jul 2014 #151

Somehow I doubt that. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #21

It's really amusing when they howl about Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #25

Excellent observation. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #26

Psssst Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #28

Ditto! Iliyah Jul 2014 #58

I just wish they could get to Russia and have Putin as their leader.. they could post RT Cha Jul 2014 #32

Sock puppets here praise Putin. But ... they're SOCK PUPPETS. It's what they do. Sow discord. blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #33

If Obama took his shirt off and rode a steed while lunatica Jul 2014 #36

K & R Iliyah Jul 2014 #39

You know why, DI. They'll never admit it, but we both know why. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #42

Who are these people who won't admit it? Got links? Evidence? Come on! You are a smart person... Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #45

Don't feign outrage! Open your eyes right here in GD! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #48

Not seeing any defense of Putin. Perhaps you could point it out. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #53

I'm not a very clever person, and yet I've seen the implications time and again LanternWaste Jul 2014 #197

Without links this post is worthless. Got any? Of course you don't. And you won't. Pathetic.. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #43

Bullshit! DI said SOME on the left! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #52

Still have not posted any evidence that some progressives defend Putin. Criticism of Obama's Admin Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #54

Here's a tweet from one of the more prominent leftists at DU geek tragedy Jul 2014 #82

Absolute slime right there... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #107

Impressive as all get out. Especially the links below. nt Hekate Jul 2014 #108

I kind of like twitter it shows the 'world' what kind of person they really are. Sunlei Jul 2014 #129

Is that a DUer for real ? sufrommich Jul 2014 #137

A very prominent DUer. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #145

I started following her on Twitter.She's a one woman Russian sufrommich Jul 2014 #152

note the hammer and sickle iconography. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #153

Looks like she quit DU back in April over her Russia/Putin worship stevenleser Jul 2014 #162

she wasn't too pleased when her Paul Craig Roberts thread got hidden. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #163

The stuff he writes is batshit crazy stevenleser Jul 2014 #164

white supremacists typically aren't that stable nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #165

Wow. Look at today's meltdown. joshcryer Jul 2014 #198

you mean this tweet from the fascist? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #199

Heh, keep scrolling. joshcryer Jul 2014 #200

You know good and well you need to put the word leftist in quotes for that one Number23 Jul 2014 #187

Oh, to the people recommending this thread geek tragedy Jul 2014 #190

I believe in equality. imthevicar Jul 2014 #47

No lie and his hangers on.... Tikki Jul 2014 #49

and Putin did 9-11!!!111 MisterP Jul 2014 #55

No, putin was behind the air missile and training that brought down the Malaysian Airplane. Stupid Cha Jul 2014 #67

Link or slink. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #56

Just take a stroll around GD, Manny, and feel the love. It's there. nt Hekate Jul 2014 #60

I guess we'll chalk that up as a "slink" MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #61

Well, they tend to get banned. joshcryer Jul 2014 #75

The Bell Forum doesn't pretend to be anything it's not - TBF Jul 2014 #194

My journal is extremely open. joshcryer Jul 2014 #195

Link: geek tragedy Jul 2014 #77

Seriously? MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #79

Might? That person is a heroine to many here. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #80

They're over at Discussionist these days. joshcryer Jul 2014 #84

Well , they'll never be back here. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #85

The whole "right wing populism" thing boggles my mind. joshcryer Jul 2014 #86

Populism tends to be shorthand for pissed off geek tragedy Jul 2014 #87

No, I don't think Manny will answer your question Hekate Jul 2014 #113

Oh shit! Catherina has a twitter feed? Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #102

Yes, I agree. AND the thread title is a smear of the Democratic Left Tom Rinaldo Jul 2014 #171

what you say is very true. the thread would be much better stated as "some so-called members of the geek tragedy Jul 2014 #175

That same description can be used against Obama apologists as well. cui bono Jul 2014 #212

that you choose to equate Obama supporters with supporters of a fascist oligarchical dictator geek tragedy Jul 2014 #213

LOL. Way to completely miss the point. But I suspect you are purposely misconstruing what I said cui bono Jul 2014 #215

This one was a gem. Barack_America Jul 2014 #89

Actually it is a gem, but not for the reasons you think. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #181

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #57

That is a nice compilation of the talking points. zeemike Jul 2014 #70

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #78

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #59

propagating fantasies today are ya? I'm a Leftist, I've never defended Putin and no one I know has. 2banon Jul 2014 #68

If the OP doesn't apply to you, why get upset? Kaleva Jul 2014 #131

Upset? No. Frustrated by reactionaries engaged in Left Bashing, Yep. 2banon Jul 2014 #155

IKR!? Rex Jul 2014 #71

Is it "some" on the left or "good amount"? pa28 Jul 2014 #73

There was an article in GD earlier... renegade000 Jul 2014 #74

''...the murderous bigot from Russia?'' DeSwiss Jul 2014 #76

Because Putin is so cute without a shirt? McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #81

It's ironic-al, ain't it? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #88

Or maybe people might try to use empathy instead of stereotypes? machiavelliisalive Jul 2014 #91

Good grief. Well.... Hekate Jul 2014 #120

I have no empathy for the fascists here. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #158

horse shit. just like the op you're riffing off. A huge maloderous pile of it. cali Jul 2014 #103

This kind of reminds me of the Michele Catalano incident Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #104

bwahahahaha. yeah. it's not a fact that the administration announced it was cali Jul 2014 #105

Have you even seen the TPP? Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #106

Right. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #109

You're the rare exception. joshcryer Jul 2014 #126

Many of us don't trust oligarchs of any stripe. TBF Jul 2014 #133

Hear, Here! 2banon Jul 2014 #156

They aren't on the left. n/t Orsino Jul 2014 #140

it's only like 10 or 12 total, but they sure do like to POST POST POST snooper2 Jul 2014 #143

Obama needs to up his game. PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #146

Going to be hard to beat that since the bear is their national symbol. Unless... stevenleser Jul 2014 #154

Sounds like a job for Steven Colbert! Hekate Jul 2014 #182

Pootie couldn't handle an ocean BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #184

I think it's because he's coddling their boyfriend. 6000eliot Jul 2014 #147

Tall in the running for Most Useless Thread Of The Year WilliamPitt Jul 2014 #159

this reeks like rightwingnuts support of voter ID laws stupidicus Jul 2014 #161

It is amazing that it comes from the same group every time. Pisces Jul 2014 #172

And they're just about all hiding from you right now BeyondGeography Jul 2014 #177

Putin is a thug in a cheap suit... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #180

so very true heaven05 Jul 2014 #185

What a load of bull puckey. truebluegreen Jul 2014 #188

A million times more ... GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #189

There are some who call themselves Democrats that rush to judgement and JEB Jul 2014 #192

You know, some moderate Democrats are registered sex offenders Tom Rinaldo Jul 2014 #201

People are complex, but my simplest explanation of that is the audience. Xyzse Jul 2014 #204

How can you tell if they're on the left? Stellar Jul 2014 #209

Otra vez? Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #211

They can have fucking fascist putin.. I'll take President Obama.. Cha Jul 2014 #214