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Thu Jul 24, 2014, 02:59 PM

Jul 2014

Corporal punishment is really popular with some.

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Spanking The Gray Matter Out Of Our Kids (Yes, Don't Spank, Please) [View all] HuckleB Jul 2014 OP

Thanks for the post, HuckleB. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #1

No problem. HuckleB Jul 2014 #3

Except that the p-value for Verbal IQ and Performance IQ is Drahthaardogs Jul 2014 #45

'but we can still hit them with our hands!' in 3, 2, 1... redqueen Jul 2014 #2

Uh oh. HuckleB Jul 2014 #4

yes, even at DU CreekDog Jul 2014 #5

Yikes. HuckleB Jul 2014 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author SixString Jul 2014 #80

Unfortunately, yes. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #6

And... Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #11

I would've been comparable to Einstein if I'd not been spanked? uppityperson Jul 2014 #8

My folks broke "The Board of Education" on my arse. HuckleB Jul 2014 #14

Thanks for the post. Another piece of evidence to present to the child abusers. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #9

I'm with you on that! HuckleB Jul 2014 #23

Reccing for exposure... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #10

Absolutely. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #38

Kids learn to imitate... hlthe2b Jul 2014 #12

It is obvious to most DUers mcar Jul 2014 #13

Oh joy another test of the gullibility whistler162 Jul 2014 #15

What does this even mean? Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #16

Do you think the earth is flat, too? kcr Jul 2014 #26

When my first child was about three months old, a dear friend who had raised a family of five JDPriestly Jul 2014 #39

On this I could not agree more. And it shouldn't be allowed in schools, either. pnwmom Jul 2014 #17

Luckily, it's not allowed in our school district. HuckleB Jul 2014 #18

It isn't in my state, either. But I grew up in a state where it was legal, pnwmom Jul 2014 #74

Alas, now we have to worry about restraints being used without justification. HuckleB Jul 2014 #89

Corporal punishment LWolf Jul 2014 #69

It's still legal in 19 states, mostly in the South. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #75

Yep, those were the days... Stellar Jul 2014 #19

What do you mean by "kids seem much worse today...?" HuckleB Jul 2014 #20

I live in Chicago. Stellar Jul 2014 #21

I know it's bad there this year, really bad. HuckleB Jul 2014 #22

LOL...it's been bad here year after year Stellar Jul 2014 #86

The data doesn't seem to show that, however. HuckleB Jul 2014 #90

I retired in 2001. Stellar Jul 2014 #91

And what makes you think bad kids in Chicago aren't spanked? Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #41

I don't think was the point, really. HuckleB Jul 2014 #50

OK, then what was the point? Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #58

I asked for clarification of that, so I'm going to wait to get the full story. HuckleB Jul 2014 #60

I don't know if anybody can answer that question, I think some are maybe.. Stellar Jul 2014 #87

“Spare the rod, spoil the child” -Proverbs 13:24. Need those kids stupid and complacent right? Exultant Democracy Jul 2014 #24

True. That's why adults who were spanked by their parents spank their kids. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #31

I don't support corporal punishment, but the CNN article oversimplifies the conclusions RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #25

Hmmm. I go to the actual AAP website and it appears that is wrong. kcr Jul 2014 #29

Thanks for this! RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #32

What are you talking about? kcr Jul 2014 #34

No. Neuroscientists incorrectly citing an AAP position RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #35

Oh, yes kcr Jul 2014 #36

It appears to me that you're focusing on a small part of a big plant. HuckleB Jul 2014 #62

Maybe so, but it mischaracterizes much of the research's conclusions RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #67

I don't see a huge difference. HuckleB Jul 2014 #71

the CNN author's summary reflects how the study selected people for the HCP group fishwax Jul 2014 #73

I agree kcr Jul 2014 #77

It appears that what specifically is wrong? Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #49

The research cited by CNN mistates the AAP's position on spanking RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #53

OK, yeah. I just posted their actual position. But I don't see where that incorrect bit came from. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #55

Psst! Check post 56! n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #57

The AAP doesn't endorse spanking kcr Jul 2014 #76

OK, but the post you replied to noted a few issues, and you didn't state what it was you were saying Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #78

The American Academy of Pediatrics strongly opposes striking a child for any reason. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #42

Thank you. See my comments above RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #48

I'm confused about your comments above. I don't know where you got Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #52

The quote about the AAP's policy on spanking came from the original research. RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #56

Run out and find me a four-year-old child, I can't make head or tail of it. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #59

The same thought occurred to me, but I've been unable to verify it n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #61

This post explains a lot. HuckleB Jul 2014 #64

Exactly. The subthread here seems just bizarre. HuckleB Jul 2014 #63

I was confused, but I think I see now. That bit was from the research cited. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #66

I didn't mean to trivialize the discussion. RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #72

I appreciate your feedback and thoughts. HuckleB Jul 2014 #95

The problem may be related to old information. HuckleB Jul 2014 #65

Indeed. That sounds like a reasonable hypothesis. RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #68

Imagine the poor children of Gaza and how much PTSD is affecting their gray matter. Pisces Jul 2014 #27

Same for the children of Israel. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #43

No children in Israel have had their homes bombed or their families killed. THey are lining up lawn Pisces Jul 2014 #54

That explains why my children think they are smarter than I am. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #28

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I can't recommend "The Explosive Child" enough... HuckleB Jul 2014 #51

I have never heard of that book - do you mind me asking who is the author? laundry_queen Jul 2014 #79

Ross Greene. HuckleB Jul 2014 #88

I find it intresting how similar... Lancero Jul 2014 #30

Exactly. In fact one could go so far as to say that people who physically abuse their spouses Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #33

Once a month? rickyhall Jul 2014 #37

Ouch. HuckleB Jul 2014 #44

Parents with less grey matter...? hvn_nbr_2 Jul 2014 #46

That should be part of any follow-up study, indeed. HuckleB Jul 2014 #47

I don't know about "these studies," LWolf Jul 2014 #70

Now that's a study for a good PhD candidate to get on, ASAP! HuckleB Jul 2014 #94

Interesting laundry_queen Jul 2014 #81

Wow. My Dad smacked us around in his blind rages. Whenever I heard his car pull up to the Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #92

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #82

My boys stood in the corner DiverDave Jul 2014 #83

My parents never spanked me. They used a switch. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #84

Good grief, did it not occur to them that it wasn't working if it had to be Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #93

They were young and unsophisticated CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #96

That is one small consolation in many things... Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #97

If you smack an adult, it is assault, right? Jamastiene Jul 2014 #85