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WillyT

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12. Here... Let Me Help...
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:59 PM
Jul 2014
The immediate cause of this latest one-sided bloodletting was the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli hikers in the occupied West Bank, followed shortly thereafter by the kidnapping and fatal burning of a Palestinian teenager by several Israelis. According to J.J. Goldberg's reporting in the Jewish newspaper Forward: http://forward.com/articles/201764/how-politics-and-lies-triggered-an-unintended-war/?p=all the Netanyahu government blamed Hamas for the kidnappings without evidence and pretended the kidnapped Israelis were still alive for several weeks, even though there was evidence indicating the victims were already dead. It perpetrated this deception in order to whip up anti-Arab sentiment and make it easier to justify punitive operations in the West Bank and Gaza.

And why did Netanyahu decide to go on another rampage in Gaza? As Nathan Thrall of the International Crisis Group points out, the real motive is neither vengeance nor a desire to protect Israel from Hamas' rocket fire, which has been virtually non-existent over the past two years and is largely ineffectual anyway. Netanyahu's real purpose was to undermine the recent agreement between Hamas and Fatah for a unity government. Given Netanyahu's personal commitment to keeping the West Bank and creating a "greater Israel," the last thing he wants is a unified Palestinian leadership that might press him to get serious about a two-state solution. Ergo, he sought to isolate and severely damage Hamas and drive a new wedge between the two Palestinian factions.


From: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025285089



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Not only that RobertEarl Jul 2014 #1
Nothing personal against Kerry... Scootaloo Jul 2014 #6
i think Kerry has gone further than most and we have seen in his private comments JI7 Jul 2014 #10
Yup, nothing personal against Kerry, delrem Jul 2014 #11
I have one care right now RobertEarl Jul 2014 #14
That's the thing Scootaloo Jul 2014 #24
Yep RobertEarl Jul 2014 #28
I'm wondering if the war mongering was allowed during the Iraq War? cpwm17 Jul 2014 #32
It was not allowed for long RobertEarl Jul 2014 #33
+1,000 malaise Jul 2014 #69
They're very careful Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #51
And reading Israeli press today, they are calling Kerry, and Obama hypocrites, pointing to sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #22
The authority? We're the bad example others follow. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #52
Why is anyone surprised? Remember how Iraq was responsible for 911 roguevalley Jul 2014 #45
^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jul 2014 #66
bwahaha. basil rathbone, an early crush roguevalley Jul 2014 #67
How do you know that? BainsBane Jul 2014 #46
Here is the 19 months ago RobertEarl Jul 2014 #48
Not entirely BainsBane Jul 2014 #50
It sounds like, from both his post and yours, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #53
Probably from this thread, post #49 and link. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #49
That is not true hack89 Jul 2014 #70
Don't misread Scootaloo Jul 2014 #2
Ya... Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #5
It wasn't just Bush bathing in Arab blood. delrem Jul 2014 #13
I apologize if I offended you when I went after Bush Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #15
You didn't offend me. delrem Jul 2014 #20
You seemed a little defensive. nt Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #37
well, sorry about that. But I just voiced my opinion. nt delrem Jul 2014 #38
You know, I've seen a fair bit of Islamophobia BainsBane Jul 2014 #47
is it important to you that Obama not be associated with the ME slaughter? Doctor_J Jul 2014 #55
I’ve had 2 glasses of wine, so a little disoriented but,, busterbrown Jul 2014 #8
As a pretext for this Israeli "operation", it doesn't hold water. delrem Jul 2014 #16
I believe some names were released Scootaloo Jul 2014 #17
Yea I get it... I hardly ever drink.. busterbrown Jul 2014 #18
welcome and about those named names azurnoir Jul 2014 #19
How did the youths die? What happened? JDPriestly Jul 2014 #40
I don't think the manner in which they were killed was reported. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #41
As I've seen reported, they were shot while one of them was talking on the phone cpwm17 Jul 2014 #58
The murders are the reason for the bombings then. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #60
Damn jollyreaper2112 Jul 2014 #3
Check This Out: WillyT Jul 2014 #4
you should edit to give more info and not make it seem as if the 3 dead kids was fake JI7 Jul 2014 #7
Thanks will do.. busterbrown Jul 2014 #9
Here... Let Me Help... WillyT Jul 2014 #12
Can I tell you something? It’s my feeling that as this story develops it will turn out ... busterbrown Jul 2014 #21
It Should Be... But Fear And War Corrupts The Mind And Soul... WillyT Jul 2014 #23
But remember this? busterbrown Jul 2014 #27
Yep... I Do... WillyT Jul 2014 #30
In a righteous world, that would have passed already Scootaloo Jul 2014 #25
Normally, this kind of horrible and ghoulish deception would result in demands for him sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #26
Again, I don’t think the average Israeli has the same mindset as these war monger's.. busterbrown Jul 2014 #29
Both average Israelis and average Palestinians are confused, JDPriestly Jul 2014 #42
From the article: Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #31
I've never understood that situation in Israel and Palestine although Cleita Jul 2014 #34
Well I guess I'm psychic. defacto7 Jul 2014 #35
I felt the same way.. It makes no sense for anyone connected with Hamas to pull a stunt like that.. busterbrown Jul 2014 #36
agreed defacto7 Jul 2014 #39
Not necessarily. Any large organization is prone to factionalism. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #54
Interesting that a false flag Ichingcarpenter Jul 2014 #43
Here is the story, a fuller version. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #44
This works for everyone. PolarVortex Jul 2014 #56
The article on which the DK post is based makes this claim: Habibi Jul 2014 #57
The more this goes on, the more I find thoughts arising that I dare not speak or write magical thyme Jul 2014 #59
This link is an excellent overview of the whole situation.. busterbrown Jul 2014 #62
this needs its own thread. magical thyme Jul 2014 #65
i was under the impression iandhr Jul 2014 #61
No they did not.. busterbrown Jul 2014 #63
That was obvious all along. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #64
I had read elsewhere a couple of days ago... kentuck Jul 2014 #68
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