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zazen

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25. isn't the OP arguing that criticizing FSOG's misogyny shouldn't be shamed and silenced?

Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:00 AM

Jul 2014

I don't understand the outrage about this post.

Aren't they saying that no one seems to get upset when we question racist stereotypes in pornography (and pornography as described above exists, as do "erotic books," but they get upset when we question pornography itself?

Stereotypes of African American women as animalistic and Asian women as passive receptacles, etc., etc., only get attention in progressive spaces based on the racism involved but not in the degradation of females per se. . . the argument of the OP is that the Left as a whole (not radical feminists) generally tends to remain blind to sexual degradation because they see all sexual experience as "natural" and therefore exempt from questioning and critique.

Did I miss something here?

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] kickitup Jul 2014 OP

Lets Talk About Sex! snooper2 Jul 2014 #1

You can't be fucking serious. Iggo Jul 2014 #2

+1 one_voice Jul 2014 #5

somehow this will not end well nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #3

Ya think, Nostradamus? Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #102

*peers into crystal ball* steve2470 Jul 2014 #103

OUCH!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #105

You should say bye. NCTraveler Jul 2014 #4

Go on with your bad self IronLionZion Jul 2014 #6

Yeah, there was an issue with a post like that in the lounge a while back BainsBane Jul 2014 #7

+100. n/t whathehell Jul 2014 #21

I'm actually amazed cwydro Jul 2014 #107

WTH maddezmom Jul 2014 #8

lol d_b Jul 2014 #9

I think you answer your own question in the first sentence. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #11

Hit the road, Jack.... n/t PasadenaTrudy Jul 2014 #12

No doubt, you hope that creative allegation is received with both sincere nods and acknowledgments.. LanternWaste Jul 2014 #13

If this racist, sexist, and just crass OP can beat a jury, anything can. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #14

It did 4 to 3 to keep it. redstatebluegirl Jul 2014 #17

Yeah I saw it passed when I alerted it. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #46

yep redstatebluegirl Jul 2014 #76

This is what DU has become PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #77

Forewarned by you guys, I checked the SOP box instead Hekate Jul 2014 #117

If the women are willing, they can be impregnated by whomever they choose. Orrex Jul 2014 #15

I don't get your point. But it is a curious thing how you know so much about this. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #16

I write erotica. I keep on top of what sells. I was just curious if it is okay to question racial kickitup Jul 2014 #51

Writer or no, perhaps you might re-think your OP's inelegant way of expressing your chosen genre. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #63

Huge. H2O Man Jul 2014 #18

lol Marrah_G Jul 2014 #20

~facepalm~ Marrah_G Jul 2014 #19

Is this a Blazing Saddles thread? The Straight Story Jul 2014 #22

I think so Rstrstx Jul 2014 #83

I was thinking more of "Full Metal Jacket". VScott Jul 2014 #96

or Clarence Thomas Doctor_J Jul 2014 #123

my opinion is that people who have an issue with different skin colors having sex LadyHawkAZ Jul 2014 #23

I don't like books that promote bigoted world-views. dawg Jul 2014 #24

isn't the OP arguing that criticizing FSOG's misogyny shouldn't be shamed and silenced? zazen Jul 2014 #25

Why yes, that's it. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #29

Says a lot, doesn't it? That they don't see their own hypocrisy. kickitup Jul 2014 #43

I think it's due to an OP that is, at best, worded inartfully fishwax Jul 2014 #53

In the erotica I alluded to, the black male impregnates the white woman without . . . kickitup Jul 2014 #60

yeah, that sounds racist fishwax Jul 2014 #61

Forget the OP then. It's pointing to the real problem that is being ignored pnwmom Jul 2014 #120

Apparently you did miss one thing. Your Ann Coulter type stereotyping and characterization Zorra Jul 2014 #71

Yeah, unjustifiably insulting the majority of democrats is okey dokey. redqueen Jul 2014 #72

Please don't mischaracterize what I posted. nt Zorra Jul 2014 #74

You got it: pnwmom Jul 2014 #119

"Just trying to get my bearings here." Lex Jul 2014 #26

who cares samsingh Jul 2014 #27

"Negro" is Spanish for Black Object... Anansi1171 Jul 2014 #28

This entire thread is beyond good taste packman Jul 2014 #30

Oh Jesus... one_voice Jul 2014 #40

I remember when this came out. Brigid Jul 2014 #82

Yawn. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #31

A clear example of why the jury system doesn't work n/t Oilwellian Jul 2014 #32

"Fool" ignore is my friend. johnp3907 Jul 2014 #33

I have no opinion about that. I do, however, have an opinion of your post. MineralMan Jul 2014 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Jul 2014 #35

Well, a jury apparently voted to leave it. MineralMan Jul 2014 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Jul 2014 #38

I think that's the OP's point, actually. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #112

I don't think this thread has turned out very well. JVS Jul 2014 #36

Unintentionally? Iggo Jul 2014 #42

OP posted another thread earlier that I think is related to this. JVS Jul 2014 #45

Emphasis on flame. (n/t) Iggo Jul 2014 #79

You should probably edit your OP in order to make it more clear ... dawg Jul 2014 #39

so far a "hit and run" OP maker too Lex Jul 2014 #41

I'm biting my fingernails in worry. kickitup Jul 2014 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author Lex Jul 2014 #69

Evidently. kickitup Jul 2014 #44

the misreadings of your post are astonishing and very revealing zazen Jul 2014 #49

Yes, I'm learning a lot about DU. kickitup Jul 2014 #54

We are one of the more intelligent communities on the internet. dawg Jul 2014 #56

So sadly true redqueen Jul 2014 #59

well at least the majority on the jury understood that mentioning something exists m-lekktor Jul 2014 #73

I dearly wish it was astonishing. redqueen Jul 2014 #57

Very good synopsis of the stupid. Can you believe this shit? Squinch Jul 2014 #86

Jonathan Swift got tombstoned from DU back in 2003. dawg Jul 2014 #55

Meh. If the cannibalism were coupled with something degrading about women, it would be fine here. Squinch Jul 2014 #87

Wow people completely miss the point of this post almost as much as do why that shitty book CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #47

It amazes me the point did get lost on so many. My fault, I guess. kickitup Jul 2014 #50

I noticed that too. It went over almost everyone's head. arcane1 Jul 2014 #85

Sometimes I wonder if pods have taken over the brains of posters here. Squinch Jul 2014 #88

Actually one of my objections to pornography written or visual ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #52

lmao @ the title of this thread LittleBlue Jul 2014 #58

I am truly sorry if I have offended anyone. kickitup Jul 2014 #62

... Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #64

There's pornography. There's erotica. There is realism. There is art. And then there is bilge. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #65

... TeeYiYi Jul 2014 #66

"I was trying to make a point but evidently failed miserably." Lex Jul 2014 #70

The only mistake was expecting people to make the connection to the 50 Shades discussions. pnwmom Jul 2014 #122

I have no opinion about fiction involving black men... TreasonousBastard Jul 2014 #67

I don't think you would ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #68

It's not my cup of tea... Inkfreak Jul 2014 #75

interesting to see the reading skills illustrated in this thread Kali Jul 2014 #78

Very interesting. ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #80

When you attempt to make a point this clumsily, it's not the reader's fault. Lex Jul 2014 #81

I think the goal was getting attention to the topic ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #94

Yes, and shouting the N-word in a crowd and then explaining Lex Jul 2014 #98

I am glad this hasn't been hidden joeglow3 Jul 2014 #84

Has anyone here actually addressed and/or attempted to answer you questions? Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #89

Erotic FICTION/fantasy. Get back to me when a book features pedophile fantasies. ecstatic Jul 2014 #90

As I posted upthread, there is at least one written erotica website (amateur submission) ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #93

My opinion is... AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #91

You have got to be kidding with this thread! In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #92

Just so I'm clear on this... one_voice Jul 2014 #95

You are probably right ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #97

I understand his/her post steve2470 Jul 2014 #99

OP containing the word "schlong" Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #100

Isn't "huge schlong" technically redundant. CincyDem Jul 2014 #106

I think you're right. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #110

Bigfoot porn is also a top seller on amazon. The author pulls down 60k a MONTH. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #101

You know why a schlong isn't 12" long ? CincyDem Jul 2014 #114

It's very stereotypical. bravenak Jul 2014 #104

Calling my broker to buy stock in Orville Redenbacher. edbermac Jul 2014 #108

I don't normally concern myself with other people's upaloopa Jul 2014 #109

Funny, I went over to Amazon to check on this Kingofalldems Jul 2014 #111

Yep.. one_voice Jul 2014 #115

So endeth the trick. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #116

Racist crap disingenuously posted as "just asking" and "just trying to get my bearings here" ... Hekate Jul 2014 #113

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #118

Is this a sex thread?? It seems to have generated a bit of interest, or non interest DocwillCuNow Jul 2014 #121

Wowsers. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #124