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Major Hogwash

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41. Well, I'm just glad my dad is not alive to see this shit going on today.

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:32 AM

Jul 2014

Like your dad, my dad served in WWII as a young man who was drafted and who did not grow up thinking that he would ever serve in the military.
He supported the formation of Israel after WWII, and he hardly ever criticized anything they did for the next 30 years.
He didn't particularly like Golda Meir very much, but he gave her credit for keeping the country together at a critical time in their history.

The fact that Netanyahu thinks that he is "in the right" or "has the right" for the shelling of the Gaza Strip only proves how much the people of the Middle East hate each other . . unto death.
Israel will survive Netanyahu, but they need to crank him down a few notches until he is replaced.

I don't think the next president of Israel will be as hardline right as Netanyahu is.
The UN may have to ultimately step in and enforce a cease fire.

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Before I Bed Down Tonight... I'd Like To Say... For Most Of My Life... I've Supported Israel... [View all] WillyT Jul 2014 OP

You're not the only one, Willy. Far from it. I grew up loving the idea of Israel sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #1

Thank You For That ... WillyT Jul 2014 #2

Israel should be a pariah state like South Africa was while practicing apartheid. TransitJohn Jul 2014 #9

They are getting there. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #47

I know an extremely conservative Republican who winced when Netanyahu came back into power Samantha Jul 2014 #16

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #86

Regime Change Needed Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #104

Funny... I read "Drinking the Sea at Gaza." This book tells the truth about how kysrsoze Jul 2014 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author kysrsoze Jul 2014 #24

only in the past decade? better late than never. m-lekktor Jul 2014 #42

Yes, only in the last decade. Better late than never. I have been reading the comment sections of sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #103

Same here malaise Jul 2014 #44

I am like you in many ways. BlueMTexpat Jul 2014 #62

Pretty much my experience as well, JEB Jul 2014 #3

Yep... There Is That... WillyT Jul 2014 #4

Being Jewish, and having visited there just last year, I find Likudnik excess very demoralizing villager Jul 2014 #5

And You Have To Know... I Root For The Academics And Peace-Niks On Both Sides... WillyT Jul 2014 #6

In my 50's myself, WillyT, I've arrived at Iain Banks' "Fuck Every Cause that Ends in Murder... villager Jul 2014 #7

Word !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #8

I'm with you there, villager... elzenmahn Jul 2014 #48

Yes! redwitch Jul 2014 #83

That, I think, is the root cause of the mess we see today. LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #13

"Realistically hope and expect them to stop Aerows Jul 2014 #15

Are you familiar with the political parties in Israel? oberliner Jul 2014 #22

I know that Israel has a lot of parties and the ones who LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #28

It's bad enough having to vote in the U.S. Crunchy Frog Jul 2014 #29

Ain't it the truth. n/t LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #31

There are way more far-left options in Israel than in the US oberliner Jul 2014 #32

I only wish we had the diversity of legitimate political opinion in this country that seems stranger81 Jul 2014 #38

Parties are more fickle in Israel, it would depend on the election Hippo_Tron Jul 2014 #54

One of the most frightening things I've read lately is polling showing Israel is going in the Pirate Smile Jul 2014 #23

They had better make a change, because the world has had enough of this. LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #30

Whether the world is sick of it or not, they'd better change their stance. Marr Jul 2014 #87

??? regnaD kciN Jul 2014 #109

Israel is our local thug state. They give us a presence in the region that Marr Jul 2014 #112

As I've said before... regnaD kciN Jul 2014 #110

"I weep for all the children, some times I weep for the entire world." mackerel Jul 2014 #10

Kicked and recommended. I feel the same way. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #12

Sorry willy nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #36

When I was a kid we heard a lot about Israel in school. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #14

Same here. n/t NealK Jul 2014 #40

Yep... I Remember Being Taught How To Create/Make Dreidels... Around the 3rd Grade... (1963)... WillyT Jul 2014 #89

You just described my feelings completely! nt arthritisR_US Jul 2014 #17

Thanks for articulating onecaliberal Jul 2014 #18

I stand with you, my dear WillyT... CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2014 #19

I don't like anybody very much VA_Jill Jul 2014 #20

Applause for the Kingston Trio reference. riqster Jul 2014 #56

K&R ReRe Jul 2014 #21

K & R defacto7 Jul 2014 #27

Ugh to the whole mess, murdering states with each side having the most righteous view ... pbmus Jul 2014 #33

I heard 90% of the population within Israel strongly supports the attacks. Kablooie Jul 2014 #34

You are not alone KauaiK Jul 2014 #35

That's right wing thinking. Total foriegn aid is just 1.5% of the US budget, a drop in a huge bucket Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #63

Sorry....Not buying it. Look up how much is given to Israel DAILY KauaiK Jul 2014 #78

Oppositiong to foreign aid is a right wing position, the recipients of such aid are varied and many Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #98

I don't believe that is it right wing.... KauaiK Jul 2014 #106

I support foreign aid davidpdx Jul 2014 #107

well said azurnoir Jul 2014 #37

And Before I Go To Bed This A.M. I Have To Say ChiciB1 Jul 2014 #39

Religion is like a nuclear bomb. randome Jul 2014 #43

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - And Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #90

Most Israelis are not religious. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #51

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #68

It is true HERVEPA Jul 2014 #73

Well, I'm just glad my dad is not alive to see this shit going on today. Major Hogwash Jul 2014 #41

Thanks for so aptly Skidmore Jul 2014 #45

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #46

It's OK to support a country and oppose specific policy actions IronLionZion Jul 2014 #49

I read The Diary of Anne Frank as a child magical thyme Jul 2014 #50

I also weep Thespian2 Jul 2014 #59

WOW !!! - K & R !!! - Thank You For That !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #91

If Russia is to blame for the shooting down flight MH 17, then we are to blame for Israel B Calm Jul 2014 #52

Yes, we bear some resposibility. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #61

The people trying to get Israel to stop walking this terrible path Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #53

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #92

I know what you mean yellowwoodII Jul 2014 #55

Well said. The Israeli government has no excuse for its behavior. riqster Jul 2014 #57

Much like you. I began to question Israel's intent back in 2002 when they sinkingfeeling Jul 2014 #58

welcome to the club RedstDem Jul 2014 #60

Thank you Willy T for writing what I feel riverbendviewgal Jul 2014 #64

Thank You... WillyT Jul 2014 #93

After Rachel Corrie ...I have turned my back on them ...forever! L0oniX Jul 2014 #65

+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #66

wasn't that an accident ? JI7 Jul 2014 #85

You can't negotiate with someone with a win at all cost attitude Iamthetruth Jul 2014 #67

Absolutes make it easy to justify. Who speaks for "the other side"?? nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #80

I think the carpet-bombing of Gaza pretty clearly indicates that "win at all costs" nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #105

You are talking about how many of us feel. I have always been horrified by the holocaust and jwirr Jul 2014 #69

The Eye Opener For Me Was When I Picked Up The Dec 1938 Nat'L Geographic Issue At An Antique Store.. global1 Jul 2014 #70

Did I Get Close ??? WillyT Jul 2014 #94

That's The Map.... global1 Jul 2014 #99

Check This Out... WillyT Jul 2014 #100

It seems to me... lexx21 Jul 2014 #71

"The Bravest Battle" by Dan Kurzman Maedhros Jul 2014 #82

I understand your sentiments and agree with them for the most part. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #72

Willy, I'm almost 64 yrs old.. the same teaching for me.. 2banon Jul 2014 #74

EXACTLY !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #95

This certainly describes many of us......... joanbarnes Jul 2014 #75

Very well said... ann--- Jul 2014 #76

I ask myself how can a people with the Holocaust upaloopa Jul 2014 #77

so very sad.. stillcool Jul 2014 #79

When we are bombarded by corp-media propaganda, it's hard to know what rhett o rick Jul 2014 #81

Yes - Understand - Share The Sentiment cantbeserious Jul 2014 #84

Recommended Willy, you took the words right out of my heart. Autumn Jul 2014 #88

Thanks, WillyT. Duval Jul 2014 #96

"Land for Peace" Elmergantry Jul 2014 #97

the children being blown up and murdered hopemountain Jul 2014 #101

Israel is going to lose. earthside Jul 2014 #102

"the residents of Gaza have a right to resist oppression" 2banon Jul 2014 #111

Well put Willy T. davidpdx Jul 2014 #108

Last Kick From Me... WillyT Jul 2014 #113