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BlueMTexpat

(15,690 posts)
62. I am like you in many ways.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:42 AM
Jul 2014

Then I became a Peace Corps Volunteer to Morocco in the 1960s and heard a different narrative from the Arab POV, which caused me to begin questioning things that I saw and heard in the US media. Then I met Palestinian Arabs who had left Palestine to try to build lives and careers elsewhere. They are every bit as admirable and as desiring of peace and understanding as are many Israelis, but they still feel a strong attachment to their homeland and to their family members still there. That put faces to Palestinians for me.

That is what we in the US have mostly not seen. We have all too often been shown the faces of admirable Israelis (of whom there are many) but not anywhere near the same amount of faces of admirable Palestinians. We also demonized the PLO for a long time, just as we demonize Hamas now. Any group that can be elected by a population, as Hamas was in 2006, cannot be all bad, so why do we - who "support" free elections - never accept the results of an election if they are not what we wish and continue to punish the population for exercising its freedom to vote? In fact, as many who are familiar with the area know, many of the most radical elements are actually offshoot PLO cells rather than Hamas at all. But Hamas is almost always characterized as the "bad guys" - certainly by US media, who always have to find "good" guys and "bad" guys for their overly simplistic coverage of events - not simply those in Israel.

In 2000, I actually visited Israel as part of a UN team and witnessed for myself the very jarring sights of Israeli settlements, often settled by the most radical right wing settlers from the US, no less - not native Israelis or even moderate settlers. Such settlements continue to encroach on occupied land. I am not Palestinian or Arab, yet I was outraged at the sights. I could only imagine a tiny bit how Palestinians themselves might feel.

A few years back, I reread The Source, James Michener's lengthy novel of the area and the successive waves of settlers to it, with the backstory being a group of archaelogists who are uncovering a dig. The primary financier of the dig is an American Jew from Chicago, who leads his own very modern life (at least for the 1960s) there. When he first visits the dig, he is less impressed by kibbutz activity and the building of a new nation (which was the pride of the native Israelis in the novel) that would encompass all residents - Israelis and Arabs alike - than he is by encouraging the most conservative Jewish religious practices so that American Jews who did not even practice those rites had a focal point for the "purity" of their religion. The native Israelis (sabras) in the novel did not see the focus on their religion as the best future of the area.

To me the story is a metaphor for much of what has happened since: Americans, especially conservative Jews and Christians, who project their own ideas of what Israel should be onto the nation instead of letting the nation evolve for itself by coming to terms with its neighbors in a way that enables the security of all.

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You're not the only one, Willy. Far from it. I grew up loving the idea of Israel sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #1
Thank You For That ... WillyT Jul 2014 #2
Israel should be a pariah state like South Africa was while practicing apartheid. TransitJohn Jul 2014 #9
They are getting there. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #47
I know an extremely conservative Republican who winced when Netanyahu came back into power Samantha Jul 2014 #16
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #86
Regime Change Needed Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #104
Funny... I read "Drinking the Sea at Gaza." This book tells the truth about how kysrsoze Jul 2014 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author kysrsoze Jul 2014 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author kysrsoze Jul 2014 #24
only in the past decade? better late than never. m-lekktor Jul 2014 #42
Yes, only in the last decade. Better late than never. I have been reading the comment sections of sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #103
Same here malaise Jul 2014 #44
I am like you in many ways. BlueMTexpat Jul 2014 #62
Pretty much my experience as well, JEB Jul 2014 #3
Yep... There Is That... WillyT Jul 2014 #4
Being Jewish, and having visited there just last year, I find Likudnik excess very demoralizing villager Jul 2014 #5
And You Have To Know... I Root For The Academics And Peace-Niks On Both Sides... WillyT Jul 2014 #6
In my 50's myself, WillyT, I've arrived at Iain Banks' "Fuck Every Cause that Ends in Murder... villager Jul 2014 #7
Word !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #8
I'm with you there, villager... elzenmahn Jul 2014 #48
Yes! redwitch Jul 2014 #83
That, I think, is the root cause of the mess we see today. LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #13
"Realistically hope and expect them to stop Aerows Jul 2014 #15
Are you familiar with the political parties in Israel? oberliner Jul 2014 #22
I know that Israel has a lot of parties and the ones who LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #28
It's bad enough having to vote in the U.S. Crunchy Frog Jul 2014 #29
Ain't it the truth. n/t LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #31
There are way more far-left options in Israel than in the US oberliner Jul 2014 #32
I only wish we had the diversity of legitimate political opinion in this country that seems stranger81 Jul 2014 #38
Parties are more fickle in Israel, it would depend on the election Hippo_Tron Jul 2014 #54
One of the most frightening things I've read lately is polling showing Israel is going in the Pirate Smile Jul 2014 #23
They had better make a change, because the world has had enough of this. LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #30
Whether the world is sick of it or not, they'd better change their stance. Marr Jul 2014 #87
??? regnaD kciN Jul 2014 #109
Israel is our local thug state. They give us a presence in the region that Marr Jul 2014 #112
As I've said before... regnaD kciN Jul 2014 #110
"I weep for all the children, some times I weep for the entire world." mackerel Jul 2014 #10
Kicked and recommended. I feel the same way. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #12
Sorry willy nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #36
When I was a kid we heard a lot about Israel in school. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #14
Same here. n/t NealK Jul 2014 #40
Yep... I Remember Being Taught How To Create/Make Dreidels... Around the 3rd Grade... (1963)... WillyT Jul 2014 #89
You just described my feelings completely! nt arthritisR_US Jul 2014 #17
Thanks for articulating onecaliberal Jul 2014 #18
I stand with you, my dear WillyT... CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2014 #19
I don't like anybody very much VA_Jill Jul 2014 #20
Applause for the Kingston Trio reference. riqster Jul 2014 #56
K&R ReRe Jul 2014 #21
K & R defacto7 Jul 2014 #27
Ugh to the whole mess, murdering states with each side having the most righteous view ... pbmus Jul 2014 #33
I heard 90% of the population within Israel strongly supports the attacks. Kablooie Jul 2014 #34
You are not alone KauaiK Jul 2014 #35
That's right wing thinking. Total foriegn aid is just 1.5% of the US budget, a drop in a huge bucket Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #63
Sorry....Not buying it. Look up how much is given to Israel DAILY KauaiK Jul 2014 #78
Oppositiong to foreign aid is a right wing position, the recipients of such aid are varied and many Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #98
I don't believe that is it right wing.... KauaiK Jul 2014 #106
I support foreign aid davidpdx Jul 2014 #107
well said azurnoir Jul 2014 #37
And Before I Go To Bed This A.M. I Have To Say ChiciB1 Jul 2014 #39
Religion is like a nuclear bomb. randome Jul 2014 #43
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - And Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #90
Most Israelis are not religious. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #68
It is true HERVEPA Jul 2014 #73
Well, I'm just glad my dad is not alive to see this shit going on today. Major Hogwash Jul 2014 #41
Thanks for so aptly Skidmore Jul 2014 #45
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #46
It's OK to support a country and oppose specific policy actions IronLionZion Jul 2014 #49
I read The Diary of Anne Frank as a child magical thyme Jul 2014 #50
I also weep Thespian2 Jul 2014 #59
WOW !!! - K & R !!! - Thank You For That !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #91
If Russia is to blame for the shooting down flight MH 17, then we are to blame for Israel B Calm Jul 2014 #52
Yes, we bear some resposibility. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #61
The people trying to get Israel to stop walking this terrible path Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #53
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #92
I know what you mean yellowwoodII Jul 2014 #55
Well said. The Israeli government has no excuse for its behavior. riqster Jul 2014 #57
Much like you. I began to question Israel's intent back in 2002 when they sinkingfeeling Jul 2014 #58
welcome to the club RedstDem Jul 2014 #60
Thank you Willy T for writing what I feel riverbendviewgal Jul 2014 #64
Thank You... WillyT Jul 2014 #93
After Rachel Corrie ...I have turned my back on them ...forever! L0oniX Jul 2014 #65
+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #66
wasn't that an accident ? JI7 Jul 2014 #85
You can't negotiate with someone with a win at all cost attitude Iamthetruth Jul 2014 #67
Absolutes make it easy to justify. Who speaks for "the other side"?? nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #80
I think the carpet-bombing of Gaza pretty clearly indicates that "win at all costs" nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #105
You are talking about how many of us feel. I have always been horrified by the holocaust and jwirr Jul 2014 #69
The Eye Opener For Me Was When I Picked Up The Dec 1938 Nat'L Geographic Issue At An Antique Store.. global1 Jul 2014 #70
Did I Get Close ??? WillyT Jul 2014 #94
That's The Map.... global1 Jul 2014 #99
Check This Out... WillyT Jul 2014 #100
It seems to me... lexx21 Jul 2014 #71
"The Bravest Battle" by Dan Kurzman Maedhros Jul 2014 #82
I understand your sentiments and agree with them for the most part. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #72
Willy, I'm almost 64 yrs old.. the same teaching for me.. 2banon Jul 2014 #74
EXACTLY !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #95
This certainly describes many of us......... joanbarnes Jul 2014 #75
Very well said... ann--- Jul 2014 #76
I ask myself how can a people with the Holocaust upaloopa Jul 2014 #77
so very sad.. stillcool Jul 2014 #79
When we are bombarded by corp-media propaganda, it's hard to know what rhett o rick Jul 2014 #81
Yes - Understand - Share The Sentiment cantbeserious Jul 2014 #84
Recommended Willy, you took the words right out of my heart. Autumn Jul 2014 #88
Thanks, WillyT. Duval Jul 2014 #96
"Land for Peace" Elmergantry Jul 2014 #97
the children being blown up and murdered hopemountain Jul 2014 #101
Israel is going to lose. earthside Jul 2014 #102
"the residents of Gaza have a right to resist oppression" 2banon Jul 2014 #111
Well put Willy T. davidpdx Jul 2014 #108
Last Kick From Me... WillyT Jul 2014 #113
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