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In reply to the discussion: This is not a "war", it is a pogrom in a ghetto, the Gaza ghetto is like the Warsaw ghetto. [View all]Bettie
(16,069 posts)14. Yes...it is sadly true
And I'd also point out that disagreeing with the government of Israel doesn't make one an anti-Semite.
Israel's government is a right wing nightmare, with those currently in charge of it intent on exterminating the people they have designated as subhuman.
I don't know that the same is the majority opinion of the citizenry.
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This is not a "war", it is a pogrom in a ghetto, the Gaza ghetto is like the Warsaw ghetto. [View all]
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
OP
How many Israeli children dead? Math is not propaganda, never is, oh heartless one!?
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#3
Anyone who claims either side is free of the blood of children is an exploiter of dead children.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2014
#10
Israel is free of the blood of children, even as it flows like wine in the Gaza Ghetto. Any evidence
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#12
Anyone who claims either side is free of the blood of children is an exploiter of dead children.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2014
#17
so, Hamas' inability to achieve their goal of Israeli civilian casualties
ProdigalJunkMail
Jul 2014
#37
you say that if Israel just did what Hamas wants then Hamas wouldn't want to kill them
dsc
Jul 2014
#239
Some questions are too hard to answer. Thankfully no Israeli children have died, yet. However
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#142
Question asked was answered with verifiable facts. Zero opinion, spin or obfuscation nt
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#124
The question asked was clearly about the current slaughter of Palestinian children in Gaza. And
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#144
And the Palestinians are the victims. I do not understand - are Hamas and Palestinian the same? No,
jwirr
Jul 2014
#22
The argument does not work, it is just repeated ad nauseam. Old propaganda trick that the
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#47
Are you telling me that there were not people who cheered the US going into Afghanistan and
1monster
Jul 2014
#81
yep, same reason conservapuke Christian Extremists here cheered the ginned up war
BlancheSplanchnik
Jul 2014
#177
Thank you. So many blinded by the blatant propaganda, the American media is a crime scene.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#121
Just like the Native Americans were at war with the US, especially circa 1880s and beyond...
1monster
Jul 2014
#75
I'm impressed. Man enought to defend behing a computer screen. Ooh baby I'm impressed.
HERVEPA
Jul 2014
#4
Truth is gonna get you hurt, propaganda makes it go away, not thinking of the children brings sleep.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#7
Stupid enough for you to point it out, guess others may have an opinion also. Take it to the jury,
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#8
Every post that does not lick the boots of Israeli propaganda is referred to the jury, it is a given
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#11
Cavers make the same argument regarding why they should be allowed to participate here.
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#289
The right wing reactionary government of Israel is not the Isrseli people, I get and accept that.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#16
I'm sorry, but it appears the Israeli people are fully behind their murderous government.
Comrade Grumpy
Jul 2014
#51
20% children by this articles admission. It assumes every male of a certain age is a Hamas soldier,
Dustlawyer
Jul 2014
#195
So if it were, say, half that (40%) would it really make things so much better?
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#273
I dunno. Israel has its share of Palins, Cruz's and Bachmanns also, it draws them toomuch attention.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#39
The are just "mowing the grass", flowers and weeds together, when it grows too tall, they want
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#40
Or perhaps this time it's the endgame. They may flatten it, expel the survivors and take it.
CrawlingChaos
Aug 2014
#277
UN human rights official, 2009: Gaza evokes memories of Warsaw Ghetto
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2014
#42
No coincidence that the slaughter began just after the chaos of the Malaysian jet shot down.....
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#50
Same amount of outrage from the Western world GOVERNMENTS, correction added. The Arab people
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#72
By "government" I'm referring specifically to the right-wing Netanyahu regime,
Maedhros
Jul 2014
#114
"there are 1 million Arab Israeli citizens living in relative prosperity and peace"
Capt. Obvious
Jul 2014
#97
Yeah, living under an apartheid system, or else off to Gaza they go.....prosperity?
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#100
"Not news or information pertaining to this conflict"', that was the reason? Precious.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#55
It is a ghetto comparison, many more in history, you think the Nazis were a one off?
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#60
Straw man arguments followed by self induced rage and victim hood, also well known in history.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#63
Also zero American children killed in both Iraq and Afghanistan, which is why both America and
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#62
"Israelis want a 'final solution,' having apparently forgotten their own history."
Cary
Jul 2014
#66
Followed by the slippery slope argument, and I thought some were better than that......
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#192
Your blasé ability to put words in other people's mouths and then play the victim is surely the true
Fred Sanders
Aug 2014
#301
Same teacher who taught you logic but not logical fallacies, I would wager.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#146
And I might ask why you're so untroubled by the killing of children and other noncombatants?
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#275
The straw man brigade has chosen its favorite straw man....be outraged now, it is all you got.....
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#77
You understand that the Nazis first starved the people for years and then liquidated them, right?
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#119
I read another thread here - I think it was nadin's (?) about the "Samson Option."
calimary
Jul 2014
#80
I don't think anyone who has thoroughly researched ghettos under the Nazis would agree.
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#85
Sorry to offend...no comparison was made, two truths are contrasted, the comparison is in your mind.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#95
"Comparison" and "contrast" are different words, the subtle difference may be lost, the corruption
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#109
If I start an OP with the title saying "DUer Fred Sanders is like George W Bush"
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#112
To compare means to highlight the similarities between two or more things
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2014
#151
stop it with comparison's to WW2. It is just wrong. You can disagree with Israel's foreign
CTyankee
Jul 2014
#89
There is another popular thread on the same thing, repost the same thing there..you are wrong.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#99
I don't have to imagine: Last of Warsaw Ghetto Survivors Calls for Rebellion Against Israeli
TalkingDog
Jul 2014
#259
Glad you enjoyed it, but you didn't ask about a Jewish person making a direct comparison.
TalkingDog
Aug 2014
#268
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I think she has a real problem with the occupation, based on her
CTyankee
Aug 2014
#269
With respect, both contrasts are applicable, the walled city of Gaza is a better contrast, but your
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#118
The last thing Israel wants is a "final solution". This group currently in power want a never
mulsh
Jul 2014
#115
Hamas was democratically elected, as was the Israeli government, but only one is legit.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#122
you know it, I know it, analysts know it, Israel itself knows it: Bibithink is designed only for
MisterP
Jul 2014
#123
So, one ghetto is bigger than another, and one was 80 years ago? Point taken, such as it is.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#138
No, the in the real Ghetto everybody starved, was shot or gassed. No positive pop. growth.
EX500rider
Jul 2014
#140
Maybe you missed the header of the OP "the Gaza ghetto is like the Warsaw ghetto."
EX500rider
Jul 2014
#169
In the context of this OP we are only discussing whether Warsaw=Gaza, try to keep up
EX500rider
Jul 2014
#190
You made me laugh, describing slaughter as a form of war....you really did.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#147
You mean like this, although it is now the size of Las Vegas, some say, so can not be a ghetto....
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#157
There is no comparison whatsoever and to say there is, is very disingenuous.
William769
Jul 2014
#171
The Nazis were in a league all of their own, only Rwanda and Pol Pot come close
steve2470
Jul 2014
#172
"Anti-semitic" has officially lost all meaning except as proxy for anyone not in lockstep.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#188
Please quote the text from the linked Newsweek article that you claim to be propaganda.
LTX
Aug 2014
#261
A week ago I said the same thing and was told it was an unfair comparison.
McCamy Taylor
Jul 2014
#181
Most as you know where deported to camps and murdered, you are a bit early to the comparison.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#198
Of course I am sorry for your loss and loss of all innocents, but labelling others who do not
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#214
Enlighten me, where is this charter, translated properly of course, you are exaggerating for affect,
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#227
One fourth of the population died of disease and starvation - not deported to camps
oberliner
Jul 2014
#212
The Gaza siege is not over yet, disease and starvation are next without power and water.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#215
In the years that the Gaza seige has been in place how many starvation deaths have there been?
oberliner
Jul 2014
#217
Well, there are around 2000 blown to bits deaths of children through the years, maybe they would
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#224
Interesting. Zero is also the number of Israeli children killed lately, not a one with a scratch.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#228
Egypt is gripped by a dictatorial army general that overthrew a democratically elected government. I
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#230
She claimed I want Israel obliterated in above post.....she is not thinking right.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#240
Pretty clearly written by you, quote " In my mind, you will not be happy until Israel is indeed
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#251
And that is just the beginning of the differences. Such comparisons are disruptive flamebait aimed
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#287
The false equivalency is the outrage....the lies about missing soldiers as justification....your
Fred Sanders
Aug 2014
#298