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190. In the context of this OP we are only discussing whether Warsaw=Gaza, try to keep up

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This is not a "war", it is a pogrom in a ghetto, the Gaza ghetto is like the Warsaw ghetto. [View all] Fred Sanders Jul 2014 OP

That way of seeing it hadn't occurred to me get the red out Jul 2014 #1

Bullshit. Archae Jul 2014 #2

How many Israeli children dead? Math is not propaganda, never is, oh heartless one!? Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #3

Anyone who claims either side is free of the blood of children is an exploiter of dead children. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #10

Israel is free of the blood of children, even as it flows like wine in the Gaza Ghetto. Any evidence Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #12

Anyone who claims either side is free of the blood of children is an exploiter of dead children. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #17

a simple question was posed to you frylock Jul 2014 #27

so, Hamas' inability to achieve their goal of Israeli civilian casualties ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2014 #37

never said that.. frylock Jul 2014 #145

The Palestinians aren't nearly as proficient sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #165

so, again, because they suck at killing Israelis ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2014 #170

If the Israelis lift the blockade sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #178

if you believe that the attacks would stop ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2014 #197

Why wouldn't they? sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #204

yes... Hamas hates them that much n/t ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2014 #205

Considering what's been going on sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #207

The West Bank is mostly peaceful nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #213

the rockets stopped for nearly 2 years frylock Jul 2014 #253

so what have gay folk done to the likes of Hamas dsc Jul 2014 #221

Hell, I have neighbors sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #234

you say that if Israel just did what Hamas wants then Hamas wouldn't want to kill them dsc Jul 2014 #239

Hamas can want to kill all the Jews sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #246

Some questions are too hard to answer. Thankfully no Israeli children have died, yet. However sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #142

yes, i agree that is something we can all be thankful for frylock Jul 2014 #254

how many Israel children Billy Budd Jul 2014 #91

A quick google will tell you... stevenleser Jul 2014 #93

Still zero in the latest slaughter.....is all I said. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #94

I was referring to current Gaza slaughter Billy Budd Jul 2014 #101

Kind of obvious, right? Straw men are a dime a dozen these dark days. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #111

The above poster is heavily obfuscating superpatriotman Jul 2014 #117

Question asked was answered with verifiable facts. Zero opinion, spin or obfuscation nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #124

Re read. Agreed. superpatriotman Jul 2014 #128

The question asked was clearly about the current slaughter of Palestinian children in Gaza. And sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #144

No spin? Caretha Jul 2014 #225

28 people killed sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #168

How many Israeli children sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #162

And the Palestinians are the victims. I do not understand - are Hamas and Palestinian the same? No, jwirr Jul 2014 #22

Well, let's see now... Archae Jul 2014 #24

Why does the argument "Israel has a right to defend itself" work for Isreal, FourScore Jul 2014 #38

The argument does not work, it is just repeated ad nauseam. Old propaganda trick that the Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #47

Because Israel is using the old Bush/Cheney Reich-Wing playbook.... Galraedia Aug 2014 #307

Are you telling me that there were not people who cheered the US going into Afghanistan and 1monster Jul 2014 #81

yep, same reason conservapuke Christian Extremists here cheered the ginned up war BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #177

And.... jberryhill Jul 2014 #90

ABC also Enthusiast Jul 2014 #120

Thank you. So many blinded by the blatant propaganda, the American media is a crime scene. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #121

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2014 #126

What was "faked up" about it? Common Sense Party Aug 2014 #286

The celebration was not for 911. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #290

Wrong. Common Sense Party Aug 2014 #292

Sorry. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #293

Hamas is about 1,100 men intaglio Jul 2014 #26

Just like the Native Americans were at war with the US, especially circa 1880s and beyond... 1monster Jul 2014 #75

BS lark Jul 2014 #86

You appear to be a great practitioner of the Ethics of Convenience. LanternWaste Jul 2014 #102

I just made that comment in the HOA thread Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #105

So you are blaming other Palestinians for the actions of Hamas? treestar Jul 2014 #136

... BlindTiresias Jul 2014 #156

He's talking about half of Gaza. sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #186

Even if true, how does that justify killing civilians by the hundreds? nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #272

I'm impressed. Man enought to defend behing a computer screen. Ooh baby I'm impressed. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #4

Truth is gonna get you hurt, propaganda makes it go away, not thinking of the children brings sleep. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #7

"We" are not amused Caretha Jul 2014 #244

You have multiple personalities? HERVEPA Aug 2014 #294

Israeli military strength in part: Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #5

That is the stupidest OP I saw all day. Bonobo Jul 2014 #6

Stupid enough for you to point it out, guess others may have an opinion also. Take it to the jury, Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #8

It doesn't surprise me you would post that. n/t FourScore Jul 2014 #41

Whoa. arikara Jul 2014 #152

To some people, evidently, facts are stupid. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #248

Jury Result Liberal_Dog Jul 2014 #9

Every post that does not lick the boots of Israeli propaganda is referred to the jury, it is a given Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #11

I've been on here since they instituted that mikeysnot Jul 2014 #31

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #70

Israel-->Nazi hyperbolic comparisons deserve hides. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #82

Why? sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #206

Cavers make the same argument regarding why they should be allowed to participate here. stevenleser Aug 2014 #289

Then you are suggesting sulphurdunn Aug 2014 #291

The Jury System is being used Billy Budd Jul 2014 #103

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2014 #127

Agreed BillZBubb Jul 2014 #250

The Tactic of Calling People Anti-Semitic Galraedia Aug 2014 #308

The abused become the abusers vssmith Jul 2014 #13

Yes...it is sadly true Bettie Jul 2014 #14

The right wing reactionary government of Israel is not the Isrseli people, I get and accept that. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #16

I'm right with you there Bettie Jul 2014 #21

This is an incredibly important point hifiguy Jul 2014 #25

I'm sorry, but it appears the Israeli people are fully behind their murderous government. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #51

Thank you for pointing that out mazzarro Aug 2014 #260

Don't they have elections there? BobbyBoring Aug 2014 #266

And I'm likewise sickened by our Canadian government arikara Jul 2014 #154

Same here laundry_queen Aug 2014 #295

Nuanced positions. Exactly that. arikara Aug 2014 #296

K & R AzDar Jul 2014 #15

It is about the government RobertEarl Jul 2014 #18

Eric Hoffer described this phenomenon in one of his books. pocoloco Jul 2014 #19

The True Believer? BillZBubb Jul 2014 #252

I think Bibi (sic) PatrynXX Jul 2014 #20

Israel did support Hamas against Fatah. alfredo Jul 2014 #29

There are a number of Israeli politicians hifiguy Jul 2014 #23

Why doesn't Israel set up refugee camps in the exclusion zone if they are alfredo Jul 2014 #28

80% civilian deaths is not collateral damage! Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #30

80% according to who exactly? Mosby Jul 2014 #35

Do you wish to dispute that figure? Of course you do. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #52

ABC News, The Telegraph, just Google it! Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #135

the numbers come from hamas Mosby Jul 2014 #167

20% children by this articles admission. It assumes every male of a certain age is a Hamas soldier, Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #195

Just do the math. sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #202

1,000 combatants? Add a zero or two.. EX500rider Jul 2014 #256

I could be wrong about the number sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #258

So if it were, say, half that (40%) would it really make things so much better? nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #273

You claim you're just talking about Israel Mosby Jul 2014 #32

+1 YoungDemCA Jul 2014 #67

Wish we had the unrec feature on DU3. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #274

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #131

perhaps the NYT can re-do this Warsaw ghetto satire for today. Sunlei Jul 2014 #33

Excellent! nt COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #53

Wow. Fascinating. Even back then there was the false equivalency. n/t FourScore Jul 2014 #56

that is horrific frylock Jul 2014 #149

This should be an OP on its on n/t malaise Aug 2014 #263

Hey Fred... Did You Catch THIS: WillyT Jul 2014 #34

I dunno. Israel has its share of Palins, Cruz's and Bachmanns also, it draws them toomuch attention. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #39

Quick question JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #36

The are just "mowing the grass", flowers and weeds together, when it grows too tall, they want Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #40

I don't see the post by WillyT above JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #57

The 'mowing the grass' thing JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #58

Or perhaps this time it's the endgame. They may flatten it, expel the survivors and take it. CrawlingChaos Aug 2014 #277

Check Here: WillyT Jul 2014 #46

It's at least what some in the Knesset are advocating. stranger81 Jul 2014 #87

I read his article JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #104

I have a feeling sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #210

UN human rights official, 2009: Gaza evokes memories of Warsaw Ghetto muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #42

Agree Completely - The Oppressed Have Become The Oppressors cantbeserious Jul 2014 #43

agreed. just last night I was questioning the use of the word "war" magical thyme Jul 2014 #44

I agree. truebluegreen Jul 2014 #45

Bibi enid602 Jul 2014 #48

No coincidence that the slaughter began just after the chaos of the Malaysian jet shot down..... Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #50

Where is the outrage from the Arab world? Cary Jul 2014 #71

Same amount of outrage from the Western world GOVERNMENTS, correction added. The Arab people Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #72

I don't think you understand. Cary Jul 2014 #78

Israel's government is anything but "decent." [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2014 #83

Israel's government is a true democracy Cary Jul 2014 #88

By "government" I'm referring specifically to the right-wing Netanyahu regime, Maedhros Jul 2014 #114

It's not a democracy when some citizens are treated better than others. alarimer Jul 2014 #161

You shouldn't put sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #243

NO it is not democratic malaise Aug 2014 #264

backfire. enid602 Jul 2014 #96

"there are 1 million Arab Israeli citizens living in relative prosperity and peace" Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #97

Yeah, living under an apartheid system, or else off to Gaza they go.....prosperity? Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #100

I started a similar thread a few days back and it was locked vssmith Jul 2014 #49

"Not news or information pertaining to this conflict"', that was the reason? Precious. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #55

I dunno, it's really bad but Nazi comparisons ? come on nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #54

It is a ghetto comparison, many more in history, you think the Nazis were a one off? Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #60

I object to direct comparisons with the Nazis... steve2470 Jul 2014 #61

Straw man arguments followed by self induced rage and victim hood, also well known in history. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #63

I don't think 'bad vs worse' precludes Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #74

A quibble (ok, more than a quibble) on the disparity issue. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #59

Also zero American children killed in both Iraq and Afghanistan, which is why both America and Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #62

Yup. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #64

And Nutty Yahoo as.....the Bibi Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #65

"Israelis want a 'final solution,' having apparently forgotten their own history." Cary Jul 2014 #66

Finally someone who wants objectivity! Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #69

So according to your "math"... Cary Jul 2014 #73

Another straw man argument, it is so very boring. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #76

Straw man argument? Cary Jul 2014 #84

That was a straw man fallacy you used. U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #110

I think that's a fair question JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #130

Given the reaction to the cafe and bus nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #180

What nonsense, once again the ad hominem fallacy at play. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #184

Nope, it is what it is nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #189

Followed by the slippery slope argument, and I thought some were better than that...... Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #192

Well that slippery slope is a fact nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #194

Your blase denial of the horror of my families past.. SQUEE Aug 2014 #300

Your blasé ability to put words in other people's mouths and then play the victim is surely the true Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #301

duly noted SQUEE Aug 2014 #309

I would be outraged Marrah_G Aug 2014 #306

I don't think so either JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #310

Same teacher who taught you logic but not logical fallacies, I would wager. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #146

And I might ask why you're so untroubled by the killing of children and other noncombatants? nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #275

No it isn't objective. sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #208

Ah yes, comparing Israel to the goddamn Nazis... YoungDemCA Jul 2014 #68

The straw man brigade has chosen its favorite straw man....be outraged now, it is all you got..... Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #77

You made the comparison to the Warsaw Ghetto YoungDemCA Jul 2014 #79

You do understand the difference between ghettos & gas chambers U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #113

You understand that the Nazis first starved the people for years and then liquidated them, right? stevenleser Jul 2014 #119

+1 JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #265

+2 nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #276

I read another thread here - I think it was nadin's (?) about the "Samson Option." calimary Jul 2014 #80

MAD is the ballgame with nuclear weapons for everyone that has them. TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #92

Yeah. No kidding. calimary Aug 2014 #267

I don't think anyone who has thoroughly researched ghettos under the Nazis would agree. stevenleser Jul 2014 #85

Sorry to offend...no comparison was made, two truths are contrasted, the comparison is in your mind. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #95

The comparison is in your OP title, not my mind. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #108

"Comparison" and "contrast" are different words, the subtle difference may be lost, the corruption Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #109

If I start an OP with the title saying "DUer Fred Sanders is like George W Bush" stevenleser Jul 2014 #112

Your comments interested me enough to post this: Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #116

You should spend more time reading the text at the link you provided. stevenleser Jul 2014 #125

Your responses in this and a few other threads on this topic... malokvale77 Jul 2014 #158

Good. And I mean that no matter which way you mean your comment. stevenleser Aug 2014 #285

Definitely not higher esteem... malokvale77 Aug 2014 #311

To compare means to highlight the similarities between two or more things Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #151

stop it with comparison's to WW2. It is just wrong. You can disagree with Israel's foreign CTyankee Jul 2014 #89

There is another popular thread on the same thing, repost the same thing there..you are wrong. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #99

It is still not a good argument,no matter how many people post it. CTyankee Jul 2014 #141

I don't have to imagine: Last of Warsaw Ghetto Survivors Calls for Rebellion Against Israeli TalkingDog Jul 2014 #259

what a beautiful statement! CTyankee Aug 2014 #262

Glad you enjoyed it, but you didn't ask about a Jewish person making a direct comparison. TalkingDog Aug 2014 #268

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I think she has a real problem with the occupation, based on her CTyankee Aug 2014 #269

That is fantastic. Thank you. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #278

Hamas is the reason Gaza is a ghetto Boom Sound 416 Jul 2014 #98

I love history, here is an account of the invasion of the Warsaw ghetto: Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #106

Apartheid South Africa is a better comparison than the Nazis LittleBlue Jul 2014 #107

With respect, both contrasts are applicable, the walled city of Gaza is a better contrast, but your Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #118

Not to go off topic, but.. westerebus Jul 2014 #132

The last thing Israel wants is a "final solution". This group currently in power want a never mulsh Jul 2014 #115

Hamas was democratically elected, as was the Israeli government, but only one is legit. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #122

They won't blow Gaza to dust because they want the land. randome Jul 2014 #134

you know it, I know it, analysts know it, Israel itself knows it: Bibithink is designed only for MisterP Jul 2014 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #129

Some "Ghetto".. EX500rider Jul 2014 #133

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #137

Not a fan of Hamas, sorry...lots of places i don't want to live.. EX500rider Jul 2014 #139

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #148

So, one ghetto is bigger than another, and one was 80 years ago? Point taken, such as it is. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #138

No, the in the real Ghetto everybody starved, was shot or gassed. No positive pop. growth. EX500rider Jul 2014 #140

No... malokvale77 Jul 2014 #164

Maybe you missed the header of the OP "the Gaza ghetto is like the Warsaw ghetto." EX500rider Jul 2014 #169

I didn't miss anything malokvale77 Jul 2014 #174

Yes, the definition of the Warsaw Ghetto EX500rider Jul 2014 #176

So only Warsaw defines ghetto in your opinion... malokvale77 Jul 2014 #183

In the context of this OP we are only discussing whether Warsaw=Gaza, try to keep up EX500rider Jul 2014 #190

You keep up malokvale77 Jul 2014 #209

"The effect is what matters." EX500rider Jul 2014 #236

Israel is not done yet, are they? malokvale77 Jul 2014 #249

You may live in a ghetto. But your Ghetto doesn't resemble the Warsaw Ghetto onenote Aug 2014 #282

Bigger than Metropolitan Las Vegas. Some "ghetto". nt COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #153

War is not between equal sides AnalystInParadise Jul 2014 #143

You made me laugh, describing slaughter as a form of war....you really did. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #147

What the hell AnalystInParadise Jul 2014 #150

It is, but only on the sand table nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #182

Something for the deniers/apologists BlindTiresias Jul 2014 #155

You mean like this, although it is now the size of Las Vegas, some say, so can not be a ghetto.... Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #157

Could we see a map from 1957? oberliner Jul 2014 #185

Here you go: Maedhros Aug 2014 #302

In that map, Gaza is part of Egypt and the West Bank is part of Jordan oberliner Aug 2014 #303

Israel maintains effective control of Gaza and the West Bank Maedhros Aug 2014 #304

Not disputing that oberliner Aug 2014 #305

Rabid right wing sociopathy is a universal behavior felix_numinous Jul 2014 #159

Great opening statement emsimon33 Jul 2014 #160

Please forgive my naivete as a newcomer to DU cornball 24 Jul 2014 #163

we moderate posts via juries here, instead of moderators doing it steve2470 Jul 2014 #166

I think you got that right malokvale77 Jul 2014 #187

There is no comparison whatsoever and to say there is, is very disingenuous. William769 Jul 2014 #171

The Nazis were in a league all of their own, only Rwanda and Pol Pot come close steve2470 Jul 2014 #172

Agreed 100% William769 Jul 2014 #173

hey, did you see my lgbt thread in GD ? steve2470 Jul 2014 #179

No sorry I sisn't see it. William769 Jul 2014 #219

ok here ya go: steve2470 Jul 2014 #222

Thanks. William769 Jul 2014 #223

I agree. This kind of hyperbole doesn't help. n/t nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #280

Yes, this is antisemitism and over the top nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #175

"Anti-semitic" has officially lost all meaning except as proxy for anyone not in lockstep. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #188

No it has not Fred nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #191

You may wish that were true, but it isn't. nt Codeine Jul 2014 #199

I have been a defender of you here on DU... malokvale77 Jul 2014 #201

Read this nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #203

I'm sorry nadin... malokvale77 Jul 2014 #220

That is not propaganda nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #231

It is propaganda when... malokvale77 Jul 2014 #255

Please quote the text from the linked Newsweek article that you claim to be propaganda. LTX Aug 2014 #261

No... malokvale77 Aug 2014 #270

It's not "research." It's a linked article. LTX Aug 2014 #271

Hard to link to what I see on the air waves. malokvale77 Aug 2014 #279

One more time. This isn't really that difficult. LTX Aug 2014 #283

Has nothing to do with what I was responding to malokvale77 Aug 2014 #284

A week ago I said the same thing and was told it was an unfair comparison. McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #181

Gish Gallop bluestateguy Jul 2014 #193

Ninety-eight per cent of Warsaw's Jews perished oberliner Jul 2014 #196

Most as you know where deported to camps and murdered, you are a bit early to the comparison. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #198

Fred 50 of my family died at Treblybka nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #200

Yes, it is. How blind people can be. It is sad and very tragic... CTyankee Jul 2014 #211

Of course I am sorry for your loss and loss of all innocents, but labelling others who do not Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #214

Except that it is not just me pointing this comparison nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #216

Enlighten me, where is this charter, translated properly of course, you are exaggerating for affect, Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #227

Here, choice passage and link to full document at Yale Law School nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #229

The "kill every man woman and child part", where is that again, Nadine? Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #232

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #235

One fourth of the population died of disease and starvation - not deported to camps oberliner Jul 2014 #212

The Gaza siege is not over yet, disease and starvation are next without power and water. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #215

In the years that the Gaza seige has been in place how many starvation deaths have there been? oberliner Jul 2014 #217

Well, there are around 2000 blown to bits deaths of children through the years, maybe they would Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #224

The number you are looking for is zero oberliner Jul 2014 #226

Interesting. Zero is also the number of Israeli children killed lately, not a one with a scratch. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #228

Have you looked up as to the role of Egypt in this? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #218

Egypt is gripped by a dictatorial army general that overthrew a democratically elected government. I Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #230

You mean the fact that the border with Sinai is tightly sealed nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #233

Danziger agrees malaise Jul 2014 #237

And he is still wrong, just like the OP nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #238

Sis we agree on a lot of things malaise Jul 2014 #242

And the comparison is still wrong nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #245

She claimed I want Israel obliterated in above post.....she is not thinking right. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #240

No Fred, I said Hamas wants it obliterated. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #247

Pretty clearly written by you, quote " In my mind, you will not be happy until Israel is indeed Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #251

here - 840high Jul 2014 #241

, blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #257

Ways in which Gaza is not "like" Warsaw Ghetto onenote Aug 2014 #281

And that is just the beginning of the differences. Such comparisons are disruptive flamebait aimed stevenleser Aug 2014 #287

Don't respond to creationists oberliner Aug 2014 #288

You want math. Here's some math. onenote Aug 2014 #297

The false equivalency is the outrage....the lies about missing soldiers as justification....your Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #298

The false equivalency is all on your part, not mine. onenote Aug 2014 #299