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12. Even if you stipulate the motive behind the law was a noble one what problem did it solve? /nt

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Porn production plummets in Los Angeles [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 OP

I just can't imagine porn continuing to exist as a profitable business philosslayer Aug 2014 #1

Yes, there's a lot of free porn on the Internet, but most of it is apparently teasers MineralMan Aug 2014 #3

Some years back I was browsing some computer/nerd website hifiguy Aug 2014 #10

A friend told me Sparhawk60 Aug 2014 #29

"apparently" rug Aug 2014 #44

... RKP5637 Aug 2014 #52

Hehe Rex Aug 2014 #77

video on demand at hotels and satellie ppv is the only economic model that works long term big_dog Aug 2014 #7

Video on demand in hotels is dying also, lots of people just use there computers now... winstars Aug 2014 #14

You seem to know a lot about this, winstars! Laffy Kat Aug 2014 #75

I travel for work so you learn a few tricks here and there... winstars Aug 2014 #118

Why don't you write an article for a travel magazine? Laffy Kat Aug 2014 #122

Thats not a bad idea LK, if I do I will send ya a gift card to a dispensary in CO... winstars Aug 2014 #129

Don't worry about the gift card. Laffy Kat Aug 2014 #130

Roger that! nt winstars Aug 2014 #131

Many hotels are providing free internet to get you there itsrobert Aug 2014 #136

The weird thing is. jberryhill Aug 2014 #141

get a tenda travel router. jberryhill Aug 2014 #140

My asshole relatives are getting slammed by piracy Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2014 #22

One model that works is use free porn as advertisment for high end escorts AngryAmish Aug 2014 #65

There's good sites worth paying for. Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #68

Well porn is why the internet exists shedevil69taz Aug 2014 #128

You do realize you're making the same argument as conservatives who whine about the EPA, right? nt redqueen Aug 2014 #2

But it's sex BainsBane Aug 2014 #70

Yep. Many on the left have a massive blind spot when it comes to this industry. redqueen Aug 2014 #72

Chris Hedges: Abu Ghraib = stills from porn BainsBane Aug 2014 #74

Yes, they're not so popular here redqueen Aug 2014 #78

They are higly revered on every other subject BainsBane Aug 2014 #82

And prostitution ? redqueen Aug 2014 #84

I would guess similarly BainsBane Aug 2014 #111

County ordinances apply to the counties that adopt them. MineralMan Aug 2014 #4

Is there any evidence that they simply wanted to chase them out? redqueen Aug 2014 #5

My take is it was a health issue, not a moral one. Someone would test positive and winstars Aug 2014 #16

Shelley Lubben, an ex porn performer, pushed for this law for years... redqueen Aug 2014 #20

I know... opiate69 Aug 2014 #32

Actually, the fact is, she's a garden variety religious right bible-thumper, now, who has Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #53

LOL. So, so true. hifiguy Aug 2014 #56

Saying Phylis Schlafly's name is like saying Frau Blucher AFAIK... stevenleser Aug 2014 #58

Heh heh. And I think that's German for "Glue" Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #60

Shelley Lubben.. stalwart progressive in your eyes I presume? opiate69 Aug 2014 #121

You presume some seriously idiotic ideas. redqueen Aug 2014 #123

Mhm.... opiate69 Aug 2014 #125

Oh.., another thing.. opiate69 Aug 2014 #126

Every time you bring up Lubben, you huff and puff about how awful it is.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2014 #134

Seems some conservative sources are more equal than others, no? opiate69 Aug 2014 #142

Who needs condoms when you can watch a free compendium of artillery shoots? Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #133

it just shifts the porn production to different locales without such laws big_dog Aug 2014 #36

Or, it just might give Rick Perry the idea cloudbase Aug 2014 #63

I doubt mercuryblues Aug 2014 #98

Then why not an ordinance requiring MMA fighters to wear head gear Yavin4 Aug 2014 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author winstars Aug 2014 #17

I'm sure that concern about health issues was part of it. MineralMan Aug 2014 #23

Well many are surely motivated by money and therefore would rank the health of the performers redqueen Aug 2014 #33

This is correct. TeamPooka Aug 2014 #45

It's a reasonable occupational safety regulation jberryhill Aug 2014 #6

Me, I'm not into gonzo car painting. Orrex Aug 2014 #9

+1 LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #11

It seems hard to maintain the argument of employee safety if the jobs relocate/go underground. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #13

Umm... that's pretty normal jberryhill Aug 2014 #18

I would be opposed to slave labor porn with or without condoms. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #34

That's not really the point, now is it? jberryhill Aug 2014 #35

The point is contract, not locality. "Amateur videos" Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #135

They're all queen beds since the remodeling, btw jberryhill Aug 2014 #139

I'd imagine OSHA is less an ideal and more a tangible benefit. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #25

The auto painting business moved for a different reason. MineralMan Aug 2014 #46

Hard times from back to front. Orrex Aug 2014 #8

Face it... pipi_k Aug 2014 #31

Someone will end up on top Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #55

Yes, lost in the Black Forest again. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #137

Even if you stipulate the motive behind the law was a noble one what problem did it solve? /nt DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #12

They're moving to Vegas... joeybee12 Aug 2014 #15

They cut the throat of their own industry LittleBlue Aug 2014 #19

One may imagine that mandating hair-nets for food preparation employees would do the same to the res LanternWaste Aug 2014 #26

Not quite the same LittleBlue Aug 2014 #27

It's called "The Money Shot" for a reason. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #138

and the Vegas is overrun with prostitution in bars and on the strip, which is ironic big_dog Aug 2014 #42

You're assuming they didn't want these exact results and good riddance Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2014 #21

It might be. And if the elected officials and those who elected them are fine with it, that's 90% of stevenleser Aug 2014 #38

If this was a Wal-Mart getting run out of town... Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2014 #76

Thank you for shining a light on yet another example of the ways that so many liberals lose the plot redqueen Aug 2014 #83

I would love to sit the DU libertine contingent down with my family in this business Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2014 #87

Sadly the suffering caused by this industry doesn't rank very high on most peoples priority lists. redqueen Aug 2014 #88

A Walmart doesnt have the tax base that this industry does. If it did, we would worry about it. stevenleser Aug 2014 #86

You speak as though Los Angeles is pornography mill town Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2014 #89

Nope, that is your strawman. nt stevenleser Aug 2014 #90

Huh? I'm not the one who brought up the economic implications of this industry Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2014 #94

Nor am I, the article did. Then you wildly exaggerated my comment. I.E., created a straw man. nt stevenleser Aug 2014 #95

Says the guy who is a professional strawman for Fox News... Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2014 #117

I always know someone has lost when they resort to using that bogeyman. thanks for conceding stevenleser Aug 2014 #120

It would help if I knew what precisely the point was. Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2014 #127

I tend to agree with this = Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #40

Making a porn movie is not a private intimate relationship. It is a commercial relationship. DanTex Aug 2014 #24

That is not, universally true. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #49

I don't think Bob and Mary are moving to Vegas to avoid the condom regulation. kwassa Aug 2014 #99

I still think free internet porn has had a far more devastating effect on that commercial porn Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #101

but isn't the commercial porn industry part of the free internet porn? kwassa Aug 2014 #104

I also think the fact that everyone carries around a better camera with their phone Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #110

Such is the Internet. kwassa Aug 2014 #113

I'm assuming the regulation in question applies to commercial porn only. DanTex Aug 2014 #106

Enterprising porn makers don't even need the industry anymore bluestateguy Aug 2014 #28

There is something else going on at the same time too. NY is making a big push for the film industry stevenleser Aug 2014 #30

Everybody and their bastard brother Bob has a video camera, usually with their phone. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #50

No question. But for those studios still trying to make a go of it... the might be being lured stevenleser Aug 2014 #51

I don't know if I'm ready for a New Yorker vibe in my smut, honestly. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #54

The internet would not exist as it does today Calista241 Aug 2014 #37

Yes, if there was no porn, the internet would be free of porn. hedgehog Aug 2014 #39

... lol ... Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #41

SQUEEEEEE Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #48

Looks like Snow White didn't ask her partners to use condoms. Ikonoklast Aug 2014 #66

OUCH Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #67

The government of LA County has ensured that porn workers in its hedgehog Aug 2014 #43

No it hasn't. It has reduced the risk, but it has not "ensured they can not be... exposed to STDs" stevenleser Aug 2014 #59

No medical professional will tell you that most OSHA guidelines or regulations will 100% eliminate redqueen Aug 2014 #61

I am addressing that poster's exact comments which were inaccurate. stevenleser Aug 2014 #91

you skipped mercuryblues Aug 2014 #92

That word has no meaning in that context. nt stevenleser Aug 2014 #93

It does mercuryblues Aug 2014 #96

No, it doesnt. Either something protects 100%, or it doesnt. Thats a medical issue, not a legal one. stevenleser Aug 2014 #97

well mercuryblues Aug 2014 #105

*crickets* redqueen Aug 2014 #124

Content producers in general are feeling the pinch of the internet. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #47

Pshaw. kwassa Aug 2014 #100

People post amateur porn for free, never understood why some pay for pro porn. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #57

Amateur porn is crap. beaglelover Aug 2014 #64

... RKP5637 Aug 2014 #79

I remember when that law was discussed on DU. Trillo Aug 2014 #62

Or perhaps some of us thought BainsBane Aug 2014 #71

This is a shame on porn consumers BainsBane Aug 2014 #69

People don't like condoms. You might as well be complaining about kids not liking brussel sprouts. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #107

and the part about it's killing people? BainsBane Aug 2014 #114

If you're so absolutely convinced of your argument then mandate condoms for ALL Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #115

Oh goody another porn thread Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2014 #73

Scoot over. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #102

I brought crayons. name not needed Aug 2014 #119

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Garthem Aug 2014 #80

It was a stupid law. Iron Man Aug 2014 #81

While they moan about the condom rule Warpy Aug 2014 #85

This will impact ancillary sellers of video products etc. flamingdem Aug 2014 #103

Why aren't the proponents of this law fighting for boxers/MMA fighters to wear head gear or Yavin4 Aug 2014 #108

"porn involves sex, then it's easier to mobilize against it." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #112

Are you going to replace those jobs Isadore? Throd Aug 2014 #116

Good. n/t Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #132