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Douglas Carpenter

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51. this is their official statement from a few years back - but I believe the offer still stands
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 10:31 AM
Aug 2014
Hamas's official offer of a truce with Israel from Ahmed Yousef:

By AHMED YOUSEF
Originally Published: November 1, 2006 in the New York Times

"Ahmed Yousef is a senior adviser to the Palestinian prime minister, Ismail Haniya."


"HERE in Gaza, few dream of peace. For now, most dare only to dream of a lack of war. It is for this reason that Hamas proposes a long-term truce during which the Israeli and Palestinian peoples can try to negotiate a lasting peace.
A truce is referred to in Arabic as a ''hudna.'' Typically covering 10 years, a hudna is recognized in Islamic jurisprudence as a legitimate and binding contract. A hudna extends beyond the Western concept of a cease-fire and obliges the parties to use the period to seek a permanent, nonviolent resolution to their differences. The Koran finds great merit in such efforts at promoting understanding among different people. Whereas war dehumanizes the enemy and makes it easier to kill, a hudna affords the opportunity to humanize one's opponents and understand their position with the goal of resolving the intertribal or international dispute.

Such a concept -- a period of nonwar but only partial resolution of a conflict -- is foreign to the West and has been greeted with much suspicion. Many Westerners I speak to wonder how one can stop the violence without ending the conflict.

I would argue, however, that this concept is not as foreign as it might seem. After all, the Irish Republican Army agreed to halt its military struggle to free Northern Ireland from British rule without recognizing British sovereignty. Irish Republicans continue to aspire to a united Ireland free of British rule, but rely upon peaceful methods. Had the I.R.A. been forced to renounce its vision of reuniting Ireland before negotiations could occur, peace would never have prevailed. Why should more be demanded of the Palestinians, particularly when the spirit of our people will never permit it?
When Hamas gives its word to an international agreement, it does so in the name of God and will therefore keep its word. Hamas has honored its previous cease-fires, as Israelis grudgingly note with the oft-heard words, ''At least with Hamas they mean what they say.''

This offer of hudna is no ruse, as some assert, to strengthen our military machine, to buy time to organize better or to consolidate our hold on the Palestinian Authority. Indeed, faith-based political movements in Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Malaysia, Morocco, Turkey and Yemen have used hudna-like strategies to avoid expanding conflict. Hamas will conduct itself just as wisely and honorably.

We Palestinians are prepared to enter into a hudna to bring about an immediate end to the occupation and to initiate a period of peaceful coexistence during which both sides would refrain from any form of military aggression or provocation. During this period of calm and negotiation we can address the important issues like the right of return and the release of prisoners. If the negotiations fail to achieve a durable settlement, the next generation of Palestinians and Israelis will have to decide whether or not to renew the hudna and the search for a negotiated peace.
There can be no comprehensive solution of the conflict today, this week, this month, or even this year. A conflict that has festered for so long may, however, be resolved through a decade of peaceful coexistence and negotiations. This is the only sensible alternative to the current situation. A hudna will lead to an end to the occupation and create the space and the calm necessary to resolve all outstanding issues.

Few in Gaza dream. For most of the past six months it's been difficult to even sleep. Yet hope is not dead. And when we dare to hope, this is what we see: a 10-year hudna during which, inshallah (God willing), we will learn again to dream of peace.

Ahmed Yousef is a senior adviser to the Palestinian prime minister, Ismail Haniya. "

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And these comments regarding Hamas from Former Israeli Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami:

"SHLOMO BEN-AMI: Yes, Hamas. I think that in my view there is almost sort of poetic justice with this victory of Hamas. After all, what is the reason for this nostalgia for Arafat and for the P.L.O.? Did they run the affairs of the Palestinians in a clean way? You mentioned the corruption, the inefficiency. Of course, Israel has contributed a lot to the disintegration of the Palestinian system, no doubt about it, but their leaders failed them. Their leaders betrayed them, and the victory of Hamas is justice being made in many ways. So we cannot preach democracy and then say that those who won are not accepted by us. Either there is democracy or there is no democracy.

And with these people, I think they are much more pragmatic than is normally perceived. In the 1990s, they invented the concept of a temporary settlement with Israel. 1990s was the first time that Hamas spoke about a temporary settlement with Israel. In 2003, they declared unilaterally a truce, and the reason they declared the truce is this, that with Arafat, whose the system of government was one of divide and rule, they were discarded from the political system. Mahmoud Abbas has integrated them into the political system, and this is what brought them to the truce. They are interested in politicizing themselves, in becoming a politic entity. And we need to try and see ways where we can work with them.

Now, everybody says they need first to recognize the state of Israel and end terrorism. Believe me, I would like them to do so today, but they are not going to do that. They are eventually going to do that in the future, but only as part of a quid pro quo, just as the P.L.O. did it. The P.L.O., when Rabin came to negotiate with them, also didn't recognize the state of Israel, and they engaged in all kind of nasty practices. And therefore, we need to be much more realistic and abandon worn-out cliches and see whether we can reach something with these people. I believe that a long-term interim agreement between Israel and Hamas, even if it is not directly negotiated between the parties, but through a third party, is feasible and possible. "

link: http://www.democracynow.org/finkelstein-benami.shtml

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Again - HUH? malaise Aug 2014 #1
Yes, again . . . Ahmed Aftab Aug 2014 #3
Do you think Israel can respond without killing a shitload of civilians? n/t Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #5
This will depend . . . Ahmed Aftab Aug 2014 #63
'Human shields' is the new label for 'Palestinian civilians'? Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #73
How are they a 'shield' if you're going to just kill them? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #78
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah so it's in the NYT malaise Aug 2014 #6
Then please link to the Malaise Times Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #42
The only credible source is . . . Ahmed Aftab Aug 2014 #61
The NYT? Lol! Judith Miller comes to mind. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #41
Welcome to DU Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #2
Because Hamas wants more war and violence. Fozzledick Aug 2014 #4
Maybe all they want is for the worse than apartheid conditions to be malaise Aug 2014 #8
No, what they want is the total destruction of Israel. Fozzledick Aug 2014 #10
Actually, this war started when Israel used the kidnapped teens as an excuse to DanTex Aug 2014 #16
No, the war started when Israel withdrew from Gaza and Hamas kidnapped an Israeli Fozzledick Aug 2014 #40
LOL. You really do believe every single word of Likud propaganda. DanTex Aug 2014 #56
You couldn't be more wrong. Fozzledick Aug 2014 #81
You missed some important bits like the kidnap and murder of the Palestinian teen... Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #74
Why do you think people are buying these 'it's all Hamas' fault' talking points anymore? sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #48
"Hamas is better at the rules of war, avoid civilians as much as possible." Ahmed Aftab Aug 2014 #60
I think a closer to accurate point would be Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #80
You may well be right but in the meantime Israel's war criminal leader malaise Aug 2014 #53
Destruction of Israel is their goal yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #27
Yeh, sure. And firing these rockets achieves that how. HERVEPA Aug 2014 #31
Then why are they taking actions (rockets) that will only worsen their situation? Taitertots Aug 2014 #45
Hamas is not interested in peace. badtoworse Aug 2014 #7
not if peace means living in a warsaw ghetto dembotoz Aug 2014 #9
They've never had any goal other than the destruction of Israel and... badtoworse Aug 2014 #12
if i was there facing exterminatiion by israel i imagine i would feel the same dembotoz Aug 2014 #18
They don't want Gaza leftynyc Aug 2014 #21
You are apparently woefully ignorant of the Warsaw Ghetto onenote Aug 2014 #32
propaganda enid602 Aug 2014 #35
It's the diametric opposite of propaganda. It's historic and verifiable fact. stevenleser Aug 2014 #62
bibi enid602 Aug 2014 #64
Not Propaganda, Sir: Flat Fact The Magistrate Aug 2014 #76
Here's when it'd be acceptable to compare Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto... Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #77
prisons enid602 Aug 2014 #83
Absolutely fantastic post MrBig Aug 2014 #38
+ 10000. K&R. The anti Semitic bullshit is disgusting. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2014 #39
Unfortunately, those who need to read and understand this don't care. They WANT to hurt people. stevenleser Aug 2014 #59
Hear hear! n/t Mugu Aug 2014 #66
Nor is Israel n/t Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #75
Perhaps because the ceasefire was over intaglio Aug 2014 #11
But can't they . . . Ahmed Aftab Aug 2014 #67
I don't know exactly, but the 300 children that IDF murdered might have something to do with it. DanTex Aug 2014 #13
Will firing rockets into Israel bring those children back? Will it prevent more children from being onenote Aug 2014 #33
What would be the downside to Israel not murdering civilians by the hundreds? DanTex Aug 2014 #57
300 more Ahmed Aftab Aug 2014 #68
Israel to pay students to defend it online Katashi_itto Aug 2014 #14
to rephrase judy collins--so send in the trolls....... dembotoz Aug 2014 #19
I've been here over a decade leftynyc Aug 2014 #22
It is interesting how many new people who only write posts defending Israel have popped up. Chathamization Aug 2014 #26
How funny coming from someone with 622 posts yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #30
So, a poster who’s been here a week with 100% of their 22 posts defending Israel is the same as Chathamization Aug 2014 #34
How many innocent Palestinians will die in Israels reprisal? el_bryanto Aug 2014 #15
If history is any judge . . . Ahmed Aftab Aug 2014 #69
hmmm - so in your assessment Israeli lives are worth more than Palestinian ones? nt el_bryanto Aug 2014 #72
That's how Hamas wins hearts and minds of the uninformed. egduj Aug 2014 #17
Agreed. N/t Calista241 Aug 2014 #20
+1000 leftynyc Aug 2014 #23
Agreed. n/t tammywammy Aug 2014 #25
yup...and the fall for Niceguy1 Aug 2014 #29
Nope. The rest of the world watches Israel inflict collective punishment on innocent Palestinians Maedhros Aug 2014 #55
Are we to assume it is true? kentuck Aug 2014 #24
Lol! bravenak Aug 2014 #28
I will blame Israel if they respond by murdering more civilians. Marrah_G Aug 2014 #36
In simplistic terms... Xolodno Aug 2014 #37
and what happens when attacks escalate in quality and quantity and there is no peace? TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #50
You are completely misunderstanding my post... Xolodno Aug 2014 #52
But what if . . . Ahmed Aftab Aug 2014 #70
Think about it... Xolodno Aug 2014 #84
they must have those worms in their heads Puzzledtraveller Aug 2014 #43
Why would they stop fighting when they have recieved nothing? dilby Aug 2014 #44
So Hamas must be completely satisfied or war goes on. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #46
Isn't that what negotiations are about. dilby Aug 2014 #47
What is Hamas willing to concede to Israel? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #49
this is their official statement from a few years back - but I believe the offer still stands Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #51
I suppose Hamas could concede more land Hugabear Aug 2014 #65
Some people have been saying that would happend Ahmed Aftab Aug 2014 #71
Because it is a religious war. That about sums it up. NCTraveler Aug 2014 #54
Welcome to DU, erm... "Ahmed" LittleBlue Aug 2014 #58
LOL!! nt m-lekktor Aug 2014 #79
Don't feed the...well, you know... regnaD kciN Aug 2014 #82
Troll already PPR'd by MIRT pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #85
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