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Blue_Tires

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118. Good points

Wed Aug 13, 2014, 04:15 AM

Aug 2014

As someone who has been gaming since the early days, I can't speak for the kids in that story -- But I have observed the occasional "take it too literally" players in the community, especially in the military shooter genre (At one time I was an everyday poster on a dozen gaming/clan forums while lurking at a couple dozen more)...Not necessarily that "I want to shoot up my classroom" mindset, but the "war a fun, inconsequential, clean game" attitude where some kid thinks because he's crushing nubcakes and going 125-5 with the ol' AK-47, he's a super-solider in the making and a natural for some kind of real-life battlefield setting...

If that was the attitude shown by the kids in the OP, I fully understand and support dad wanting to give them a reality check -- I don't fully understand and support taking them out to Syria to make a point, though...

(and just to make this a proper gamer's thread, I have to say the COD franchise fucking blows)

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WOW! Swedish Dad fed up with his sons' obsessions with violent Call of Duty computer game [View all] snagglepuss Aug 2014 OP

That's an asshole dad, right there... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #1

If that is so then why do his kids see a connection. snagglepuss Aug 2014 #8

Because he forced his views on them LittleBlue Aug 2014 #12

Bullocks. Taking kids to another country and letting them see something firsthand is snagglepuss Aug 2014 #69

right, its TEACHING! elleng Aug 2014 #81

Y'know, I frequently disagree with you, but I can't really find fault with this post. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #95

I have no complaint with the view of "war is bad" being forced on someone Scootaloo Aug 2014 #101

What does that have to do with video games? nt LittleBlue Aug 2014 #107

He showed them reality. They were living in a fantasy world. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #119

Oh bullshit. He allowed them to see the horrors of war and violence in reality. cui bono Aug 2014 #125

First off, if you don't want your 11 year old to play violent video games, Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #25

because it's a fad in Sweden to do inane shit with your kids to make a half-assed public point? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #48

While inane, Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #82

It'd be nuanced if it wasn't done in "lookatmeeeee" blogger fashion. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #86

Ahh, I see... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #90

"it's called being a parent" LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #100

Couldn't agree more kcr Aug 2014 #14

Yeah, that's ridiculously irresponsible. cemaphonic Aug 2014 #18

Except when you remember that's how some people LIVE... Barack_America Aug 2014 #93

Exactly this BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #111

Agreed Puzzledtraveller Aug 2014 #105

I wouldn't have let my kids play violent games either arikara Aug 2014 #109

Yeah... we didn't have those violent video games when I was a kid. bvar22 Aug 2014 #120

Agreed completely. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #115

LOL,... wonder if he'll get em hookers, when they are infatuated with girls. NM_Birder Aug 2014 #123

Yes, pixels are the SAME as bullets! Rex Aug 2014 #2

Good for him. randome Aug 2014 #3

I grew up on violent video game... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #4

Another anecdotal 'proof'. We've seen that far too many times in these discussions. randome Aug 2014 #7

That's not a "fact", that's something you just said in an authoritative-sounding fashion. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #15

Fact- what you feed your subconscious has an effect on you. KittyWampus Aug 2014 #28

That's not a "fact", that's a nice-sounding aphorism. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #38

So my 10 years of faithfully playing FFXI online Puzzledtraveller Aug 2014 #104

97% of young Americans play video games...gee, why are they not out doing crimes by the dozens? Rex Aug 2014 #17

Ted Bundy said porn turns people into serial killers! Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #21

So all those billions of people that look at pron daily on the WWW are going to eventually Rex Aug 2014 #35

It already happened. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #42

That explains it then! Rex Aug 2014 #50

Indeed, I remember the humble floppy disk Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #52

Yes and sadly, my entire mind fit onto a 5.25 floppy! Rex Aug 2014 #56

That's OK. I hear they can do amazing things with compression formats, these days. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #65

Nice...a very woody picture! Rex Aug 2014 #68

Did you watch that show? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #73

Didn't see it, but I did notice the ahem...rising data chart. Rex Aug 2014 #74

Yeah, that's deliberate. If you get a chance, check it out. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #75

I will thanks! Rex Aug 2014 #77

I watched it. bravenak Aug 2014 #102

Illustrating perfectly why "moral panics" are generally utter bullshit. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #96

This is my evidence. randome Aug 2014 #31

What does the RWing noise machine have to do with spawn points and pixels? Rex Aug 2014 #37

It can't be proven any more than it can be proven that Fox News impacts society. randome Aug 2014 #44

I think the right-wing discourse reflects the views of right wingers. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #39

No one said they did. But when great numbers of people immerse themselves in virtual reality... randome Aug 2014 #46

It stands to reason if you accept, tautologically, that it stands to reason. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #49

Some people get physically excited about playing video games. randome Aug 2014 #53

It's funny? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #55

But we're not talking about you. randome Aug 2014 #64

You're not. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #66

There is no tactile stimuli in the virtual world. When I get my arm blown off in a video game it Rex Aug 2014 #58

No one is saying there is a direct correlation to any of those things. randome Aug 2014 #63

Actually, the development of video games has correlated to a decrease in actual violent crime. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #71

But people who read the "Hannibal" books turn into cannibals! NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #116

evidence DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #97

Except it's not just my personal experience... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #24

see, if people want to play scientist DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #98

I agree with you. cui bono Aug 2014 #126

Good points Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #118

I'm not against video games BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #5

Travel to syria? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #22

Because that won't teach them anything BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #110

What an idiot. Risking the lives of his children for a LittleBlue Aug 2014 #6

Well, nothing is more important than MAKING A POINT � Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #13

You should take your children to Liberia right now LittleBlue Aug 2014 #16

Man... Ebola doesnt fuck around. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #19

Except "violent" video games have jack shit to do with actual violence and war. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #9

reminds me of Bobby Brady Enrique Aug 2014 #10

My kids played every game in the video world. trumad Aug 2014 #11

They're at least as detrimental as comic books and rock and roll! Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #20

Judging by the responses, education is apparently a bad thing... joeybee12 Aug 2014 #23

You dropped this... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #26

Nice try joeybee12 Aug 2014 #32

One can learn of the ravages of war Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #34

So they cannot learn about it from their own home? They needed to take a risk so the kids Rex Aug 2014 #41

Actually, now that I know it was the Golan Heights he took the kids to, I'm more on the side of Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #88

Education or intimidation? LittleBlue Aug 2014 #27

Drag? joeybee12 Aug 2014 #29

He didn't "drag them". He made a deal with them. KittyWampus Aug 2014 #30

Ah yes, a deal with a child LittleBlue Aug 2014 #47

Careful, that straw's flammable. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #36

Taking your kids to Syria because you don't want them playing Call of Duty is "education"? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #43

I think most think that taking your children to a war torn country... Lancero Aug 2014 #117

What a dumbass. nt conservaphobe Aug 2014 #33

Oh boy, not this again. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #40

I'm ready to start stomping around town in a giant, heavily armored mech, myself. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #45

DU's particular, ah, demographics are thrown into stark relief when words like "video games" come up Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #54

That's the Devil's work, mister! chrisa Aug 2014 #59

And now, lets all enjoy a nice song and cartoon from a simpler era: cemaphonic Aug 2014 #62

No, that's totally true. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #67

Seriously Puzzledtraveller Aug 2014 #106

Great dad malaise Aug 2014 #51

But video games Codeine Aug 2014 #70

+1 n/t Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #85

So the dad obviously doesn't understand that Call of Duty isn't real. Iron Man Aug 2014 #57

Color me impressed -- Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2014 #60

That's a good age to find out about the real world nt MrScorpio Aug 2014 #61

Yes, it is BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #112

Where can I take my daughter to get her off Minecraft? Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #72

I dunno, but keep an eye on her if she moves on to Warcraft. Rex Aug 2014 #76

was that said by our griefers? Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #78

LOL! Rex Aug 2014 #79

Minecraft is an amazing phenomenon. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #80

Surely there is a forest nearby? cemaphonic Aug 2014 #84

Heh, heh heh Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #89

Pah. Clickbait, anyway. He didn't take them to "SYRIA" per se, he took them to the Golan Heights. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #83

top quality dad right there Adam051188 Aug 2014 #87

Is the ESRB system a closely guarded secret? Oakenshield Aug 2014 #91

How did he force his beliefs on them? americannightmare Aug 2014 #92

His superior Scandinavian mind that didn't notice jeff47 Aug 2014 #108

Superior Swedish mind? cemaphonic Aug 2014 #114

I like this part: mackerel Aug 2014 #94

And then instead, he took them to the Golan Heights, which hasn't been plagued by war since 1967. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #99

And then he had them talk to Burt Mustin unrepentant progress Aug 2014 #103

I like to teach my videogame-loving son that they are mostly made of math cemaphonic Aug 2014 #113

Guy did the right thing. From now on, they will understand reality from fantasy johnlucas Aug 2014 #121

To all the naysayers here re: video games and detrimental effects... Regrell Aug 2014 #122

You know what I don't like? Hyberbolic daily fail clickbait headlines which contain deliberate lies. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #127

There are very realistic war movies that would have done the same trick while not exposing the kids stevenleser Aug 2014 #124

I dunno, I'm not sure kids internalize media the same way Regrell Aug 2014 #128