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xfundy

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91. I will presume for most here

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 11:37 PM

Apr 2012

That we don't care what you want so desperately to believe, we're just tired of hearing about it, and sick of having it "forced down our throats" --maybe not by you, yourself, but by your fellow believers.

No one is questioning your right to believe whatever you want, but you must realize that when any of us here has a sour word for Christianity, in all its contradictory forms, it's not necessarily a PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU.

If you get attacked, USE THE ALERT BUTTON.

May I suggest you get down off the cross now? The kids want to build something else for a change.

REPORT THIS IF I AM ATTACKING YOU, please. Otherwise, why not just go somewhere no one will question your chosen... yes, CHOSEN LIFESTYLE. I'm sick of hearing how "offended" some are when faced with reality.

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Dear Christian-bashers, here's a big fat target for you: [View all] mistertrickster Apr 2012 OP

belongs in help and meta cthulu2016 Apr 2012 #1

No it doesn't. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #2

Whatever cthulu2016 Apr 2012 #6

They already tried that yesterday, and it was a massive failure Electric Monk Apr 2012 #59

Is the OP praying? Union Scribe Apr 2012 #150

Ehh... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #3

The Passion of the New Atheists? The Straight Story Apr 2012 #12

Wow, do you compare the plight of Jews like Stewart the same way? Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #17

Just someone who would probably fit in well here The Straight Story Apr 2012 #33

So now not showing deference to Christians is hate speech? Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #41

Brendan O'Neill?... SidDithers Apr 2012 #32

I don't bash real Christians, my mom is one. I do bash intolerant zealots who use Christianity as an peacebird Apr 2012 #4

Same here, those that operate under the cloak of religion with their RKP5637 Apr 2012 #24

Define a real Christian, I take them at their words... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #52

i take them by their deeds. hobbit709 Apr 2012 #162

Funny factoid Union Scribe Apr 2012 #5

Classic! nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #9

I subscribe to that. sadbear Apr 2012 #10

Really. I haven't seen those posts. Here. nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #13

What, are we limiting reality to DU posts only? sadbear Apr 2012 #14

Apparently you can't state you believe something without providing evidence. deucemagnet Apr 2012 #166

Lol. Union Scribe Apr 2012 #16

Here's a good one from DU3 cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #18

The conspiracy lives on! Union Scribe Apr 2012 #111

Christianity has become part of big politics in the USA.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #7

That's exactly it. Not that it is right or fair to attack someone's beliefs, but that is why. Chemisse Apr 2012 #161

Oh, and I do have a problem with Obama on the Office of faith based initiatives... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #8

I have a problem with his faith-based initiative too actually. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #11

I think the point is this, you equate not showing deference for your religious beliefs with... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #19

Not showing deference = mistertrickster Apr 2012 #34

Not showing deference is attacking beliefs and ideas, particularly bad and foolish... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #46

Just one question: Why is it wrong (or even your business) if people have bad and foolish beliefs TalkingDog Apr 2012 #159

Because your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose. deucemagnet Apr 2012 #169

Keep the religion out of politics/government and everything will be fine. neverforget Apr 2012 #15

I haven't seen those particular posts, but yeah, Christianity is a particular target here Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #20

Jesus. So now atheists and agnostics and etc. have to embrace Christian doctrine because Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #21

That's exactly it, we must convert, or shut up... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #26

You don't have to shut up . . . mistertrickster Apr 2012 #31

Christians don't ridicule atheists? Well, thank Jeebus for that! provis99 Apr 2012 #35

Show me where DU's people of faith have ridiculed ONE atheist. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #38

See post #14. sadbear Apr 2012 #44

Well this IS DU after all. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #48

Justifying bad behavior on DU Union Scribe Apr 2012 #110

Its not ridicule, but the OP threatened to kick my ass. n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #117

How about Creationists, or those who use religion to deny equal rights? Hugabear Apr 2012 #73

If they're voting liberal Democrat, mistertrickster Apr 2012 #75

Really? Even though they may work to undermine some political goal? Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #77

wow RainDog Apr 2012 #97

The poster has said alot of questionable things in recent days Marrah_G Apr 2012 #143

it's pretty interesting how morally void such a pov really is RainDog Apr 2012 #146

I dream of the day of ReligionUnderground. Far, far underground. Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #144

More Lions. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #167

Yup, that's exactly what I wrote . . . mistertrickster Apr 2012 #27

I will presume for most here xfundy Apr 2012 #91

I think Obama could be an Atheist Politicalboi Apr 2012 #22

Right, don't believe what he says. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #25

I said could be Politicalboi Apr 2012 #36

Don't judge Christians by the Roman Church. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #51

No True Scotsman. provis99 Apr 2012 #66

so bashing churches who are against homosexuals is ok by you? provis99 Apr 2012 #39

Fighting against PEOPLE who bash gays is proper and correct. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #53

Technically both statements are accurate, why is it wrong to point it out? n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #60

he's just making the old No True Scotsman argument. provis99 Apr 2012 #68

True, I guess when you try to weld your secular morality to thousands of year old texts, it gets... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #69

I didn't post the cartoon ridiculing my belief in Easter. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #76

This is over a cartoon? Why not go out and riot? Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #93

Sounds like you're taking that on faith. nt. Union Scribe Apr 2012 #113

"No true Sc... ya know the rest" Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #23

Oh dear. It must be awful to be the least accepted, trusted and welcomed Americans dmallind Apr 2012 #28

and when thou prayest... OffWithTheirHeads Apr 2012 #29

Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, sylvi Apr 2012 #148

everyone is entitled to their opinion, and non-believers shouldn't be expected to not express theirs got root Apr 2012 #30

I totally agree with your opening statement. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #37

Is this how white people are supposed to feel when black people ridicule them? sadbear Apr 2012 #40

The black people who are overwhelmingly Christian? (at least in the US) nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #43

I wouldn't know... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #45

Exactly. It's kind of hard to feel a sense of solidarity mistertrickster Apr 2012 #42

What mutual goals, you created this thread in a direct response to the righteous... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #50

Also, the cartoon saying that Christian beliefs about mistertrickster Apr 2012 #55

But they are just as ridiculous, you could have chosen to ignore that thread... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #63

That would be a good topic at a forum dedicated to mistertrickster Apr 2012 #70

Acceptance of diversity doesn't mean I have to accept bad ideas into my own head... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #74

You don't have to believe them. You have to tolerate them. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #79

Bad analogy, that's about people, not ideas, I don't tolerate bad ideas, I may tolerate the people.. Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #87

WTF..................... Marrah_G Apr 2012 #141

Persecuted Christian steps into JoeyT Apr 2012 #142

Not all gays engage in anal sex and plenty of straights do. Hissyspit Apr 2012 #145

Nice debating skills, pops. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #149

FAIL mtnester Apr 2012 #154

You just replied to a non-specific reference to diversity with an offensive, overbroad pacalo Apr 2012 #155

I honestly want to believe that your debating skills are so bad that what you write is NOT idwiyo Apr 2012 #157

Sorry Christianity has some pretty strange shit in it Gore1FL Apr 2012 #114

i see many groups picked on here got root Apr 2012 #49

What is hateful about ridicule? Particularly since its generally limited to ideas and beliefs... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #58

LOLOL Skittles Apr 2012 #47

Fart noises. Solly Mack Apr 2012 #54

I don't care what his professed faith might be and it has nothing to do with his ability to govern RainDog Apr 2012 #56

Well most people in GD hate President Obama as well so might not be the best example RFKHumphreyObama Apr 2012 #57

I'm fine with Christians as individuals and people. NYC Liberal Apr 2012 #61

This agnostic agrees with you SpartanDem Apr 2012 #62

Exactly right. You got it. nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #64

The first quote you mention is a peronal broad brush, and went too far... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #67

Well good, Agnostics can make JoeyT Apr 2012 #138

Whoa...When you put it like that... Mimosa Apr 2012 #160

Funny... WiffenPoof Apr 2012 #65

I'm still angry about how people acted during the Tuscon memorial in January 2011 bluestateguy Apr 2012 #71

obama conveniently ignores his christian beliefs..he is no role model in that regard. nt msongs Apr 2012 #72

How? n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #78

Like when he publicly confesses his Christianity? nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #80

Huh, how does Obama ignore his Christian beliefs? You need to go back to freeperville seriously!! Obamacare Apr 2012 #84

When "Christians" stop trying to make me live TriMera Apr 2012 #81

The fact that the Roman Church calls itself Christian mistertrickster Apr 2012 #85

Aren't you now bashing the Catholic Church? Hugabear Apr 2012 #88

Hateful acts done in the name of religion should be condemned. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #92

Why not? Islam is a religion that encourages violence to defend God, martyrdom, and misogyny... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #95

But the Roman Catholic Church is Christian, just like all other... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #90

see edit mistertrickster Apr 2012 #98

Doesn't help, there's nothing in Christianity that forbids them from acting hateful... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #101

Yes, I realize that there are Christians fighting TriMera Apr 2012 #96

Right....... the bad Catholics, the bad Pentacostals, but YOUR version, that version is benevolent Marrah_G Apr 2012 #135

I'll bite. Pronouncements of religious faith in American politics are primarily disingenuous. DirkGently Apr 2012 #82

I agree with that . . . mistertrickster Apr 2012 #89

I have several major problems with that guy whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #83

It there a point to this thread other than to stir up trouble? nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #86

Asking people to show respect for one another mistertrickster Apr 2012 #94

You are confusing respect for people with lack of reverence for religious beliefs... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author mistertrickster Apr 2012 #100

LOL sadbear Apr 2012 #102

I love it, I mock your beliefs, you threaten my physical being... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #103

No threat. Just an observation of fact. nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #105

"I bet I can kick your ass", I don't understand why you even had to point that out... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #106

That explains a lot actually . . . nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #108

So you concede you are the bully? Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #109

I regret that post actually. I publicly apologize. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #128

Apology accepted... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #133

yet above, you condemn other Christians for their beliefs. provis99 Apr 2012 #104

Oppps it was a self-deletesiiee!! Rex Apr 2012 #107

His OP had no real function other than to berate people to show reverence for his religion... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #118

there was a troll on DU a while back RainDog Apr 2012 #120

I wouldn't call the OP a troll, or even trollish, they simply don't understand that... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #123

maybe it's because you can defend your beliefs with facts n/t RainDog Apr 2012 #129

I guess he could attempt to bash Humanism, though I really am amused as to how that would look... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #134

Will you delete this post also? Marrah_G Apr 2012 #136

So pointing out hypocrisy is now an attempt to "stir up trouble"? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #124

Apparently even quoting the Bible can be considered "bashing Christians" Hugabear Apr 2012 #125

This is the second off topic wrong forum try by the op. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #168

I understand where you are coming from, and apologize for others slighting your beliefs. rufus dog Apr 2012 #112

Great post! kentauros Apr 2012 #126

You know, there are places where they charge you for persecution on demand. nt sudopod Apr 2012 #115

More bullshit to distract us from our fight against the Plutocracy. Zalatix Apr 2012 #116

Actually that was what I had in mind. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #119

If the religious would keep their religion(s) out of politics.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #132

when religions stop using their beliefs to attack women, homosexuals and science RainDog Apr 2012 #147

Is this a joke? TransitJohn Apr 2012 #121

Only 12 Recs? sadbear Apr 2012 #122

... Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #127

Nice. Now do you have a cartoon that actually shows mistertrickster Apr 2012 #130

Really? Allow me a few samples. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #139

Like I told you in the other thread: Christians are not oppressed, they are not victims Marrah_G Apr 2012 #131

Oh good, another Christian that has a sad. JoeyT Apr 2012 #137

"Strangely enough, any of the other four would instantly be shot down by most liberal Christians, Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #153

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false teknomanzer Apr 2012 #140

Really good. Yours? n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #151

Translation: To all you non-x-tians, F U! we're in charge and there's nothing you can do about it. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #152

I well remeber that speech. Mimosa Apr 2012 #156

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #158

Great post Marrah_G Apr 2012 #170

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #163

Who would Jesus kill ... GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #164

Poor picked upon, persecuted Christians MadHound Apr 2012 #165

locking maddezmom Apr 2012 #171