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Ms. Toad

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47. What part of the quote did I leave out?

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 12:27 PM

Aug 2014

In fact, if you will look at the times I have quoted that passage, even when I was only responding to allegations, I was careful to include the subsequent sentence, "He stressed that his information does not assign blame or justify the shooting" - which I certainly would not have if selectively editing to support a conclusion that Wilson was innocent.

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In general, my responses have been to those using partial quotes (or ignoring completely) what the doctor himself said. I happen to think it is important to deal with reality - and the reality is that the doctor retained by Brown's family posed two scenarios that could explain the wounds.

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Michael Browns autopsy diagram..... [View all] FarPoint Aug 2014 OP

Not opinion but fact SaltyBro Aug 2014 #1

How is this "fact" substantiated? Uben Aug 2014 #2

Shot through the top of the head. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #6

As I've been saying madokie Aug 2014 #10

You could be shot in the top of the head if you are falling forward towards the shooter. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #11

We're on the same side here, but.... Uben Aug 2014 #12

That would be consistent with a man dropping to his knees. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #13

I agree it might have happened that way..... Uben Aug 2014 #14

Read the NYT article - which quotes the doctor the family retained to do the autopsy. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #15

Only if he charged like a bull. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #16

The victim who initially pulled away and tried to run... HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #30

Tell it to the doctor retained by the Brown family. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #32

No, thats an inaccurate quote. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #35

It is an accurate quote. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #37

Also consistent with the victim giving up mcar Aug 2014 #39

Because I was responding to an allegation that I was misquoting the doctor. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #41

"It can be because he's giving up" HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #42

Because I was responding to someone who alleged I was misquoting - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #44

No. You have consistantly omitted that portion of the quote. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #46

What portion of the quote have I omitted? Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #48

You're right, context is important and highlighting only one portion of a quote justiceischeap Aug 2014 #49

Someone accused me of misquoting Dr. Baden. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #50

it comes from an analysis of the autopsy Enrique Aug 2014 #8

The private doctor who performed the second autopsy Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #17

How many criminals charge like a bull preparing to head butt the cop with the gun? MohRokTah Aug 2014 #18

Perhaps someone who figures he's going to die anyway? Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #20

Now you're really reaching. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #21

Tell it to the doctor the family paid to do the autopsy. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #22

Some people are really invested in Bettie Aug 2014 #23

I've noticed. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #24

Acknowledging what the doctor retained by the family actually said Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #33

I'll say. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #36

Quoting the doctor retained by the family is not spinning a far-fetched fantasy. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #43

When you use a partial quote to support your preconceived guilt... HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #45

What part of the quote did I leave out? Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #47

There was alsame Aug 2014 #3

"Gangland style execution" is how such a murder would be described byt the media. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #7

Or - as the doctor who performed the private autopsy on behalf of Brown's parents said, Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #19

I tend to think he was alsame Aug 2014 #25

He may well have been - Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #28

He was murdered in alsame Aug 2014 #29

From anything I've seen, an unjustified killing. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #34

No. The doctor did not suggest he was charging. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #38

Read the NYT article from last night, Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #40

and he was shot SIX TIMES!!! a kennedy Aug 2014 #4

Some talking points on cable news try to say officer tried to just wound him first...hitting the arm FarPoint Aug 2014 #5

What teevee taught me about shootings... HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #9

The accuracy issue also explains why Bettie Aug 2014 #26

The autopsy brings up questions as to the correctness of 'eyewitnesses'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #27

Any shots fired while he was running missed. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #31