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sadoldgirl

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33. How could anybody expect of Russia to give up on the Ukraine

Reply to another_liberal (Original post)

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 03:46 PM

Aug 2014

so easily. It is "old Rus" after all. If the Western powers really thought a few sanctions would do it, then they were fools.

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Kiev Government's "anti-terrorism" troops surrounded, forced to retreat. [View all] another_liberal Aug 2014 OP

"self-defense force" = russian army under command of putin lol nt msongs Aug 2014 #1

I guess ignorance IS bliss... MattSh Aug 2014 #2

You're working off the wrong talking points. geek tragedy Aug 2014 #5

Well, gee, if this is true, RT and all, IronGate Aug 2014 #3

Is there proof of that . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #8

Glad you asked. IronGate Aug 2014 #10

American media obeys Wall Street's dictates . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #11

Just as I predicted from a Putin and his lackey's supporter. IronGate Aug 2014 #12

Are you calling me a bad name? another_liberal Aug 2014 #13

Point out where I called you a bad name. IronGate Aug 2014 #19

Is "lackey" a name you enjoy being called? another_liberal Aug 2014 #23

Lackey, as in Putin's pro russian terrorists fighting the legitimate Ukrainian govt. IronGate Aug 2014 #26

I'm glad to know that is what you meant . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #46

I always prefer 'minion'. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #29

And you constantly citing only one "news" source isn't biased? IronGate Aug 2014 #14

It doesn't matter much to me what you choose to believe, my friend . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #30

Did I ever say anything about not being protected by the 1A?" IronGate Aug 2014 #32

I Doubt He Will Even Believe This, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #37

Well, lookie here. IronGate Aug 2014 #45

And there it is again... any story which invalidates your own narrative becomes "propaganda". LanternWaste Aug 2014 #31

If they were "surrounded" how did they retreat? tkmorris Aug 2014 #4

The article suggests they negotiated with the separatists for safe passage . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #7

Hmm....so the tide drastically turns just when there's increased reports of Russian regulars.... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #6

I think it's more likely the other way around, Tommy . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #9

So the separatists who got routed from Sloviansk and numerous other cities one month ago... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #15

Or Ukraine screwed up by underestimating their opponents' resilience . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #16

Deus Ex Machina. nt Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #18

More like "Inexperienced, poorly-advised Ukrainian high command." another_liberal Aug 2014 #21

And once you believe that there were never any Russian troops in Crimea proper.... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #27

That is completely inaccurate . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #34

Russia invaded Ukraine at the end of February 2014. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #35

You are joking, right? another_liberal Aug 2014 #39

Oh, no. I'm not joking. Unfortunately. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #41

Russia Today? Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #17

Clever counter argument . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #20

Get your news from reputable sources, and you'll be better informed Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #22

I provided 4 sources upthread that Putin has invaded the Ukraine with combat troops and IronGate Aug 2014 #24

Offering nothing much but Kiev's unsupported talking points . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #36

OH... But goddamed Russia Today's bullshit is the goddamned gospel? Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #44

Support our Oops, er, Troops! VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #25

Except that the US has no troops in Ukraine, IronGate Aug 2014 #28

An America volunteer, an Army veteran and reservist, died in Ukraine a few days ago . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #38

So, 1 volunteer died, if RT is to be believed, IronGate Aug 2014 #40

I'm sure there are more Americans with the Ukrainian forces . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #42

I'm sure there are more Americans with the Ukrainian forces . . . IronGate Aug 2014 #43

How could anybody expect of Russia to give up on the Ukraine sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #33