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The Magistrate

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37. I Doubt He Will Even Believe This, Sir

Thu Aug 28, 2014, 03:51 PM

Aug 2014

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/28/us-ukraine-crisis-idUSKBN0GS10C20140828

Despite Russia's denials, a member of Putin's advisory council on human rights, Ella Polyakova, told Reuters she believed Russia was carrying out an invasion of Ukraine.

"When masses of people, under commanders' orders, on tanks, APCs and with the use of heavy weapons, (are) on the territory of another country, cross the border, I consider this an invasion," Polyakova told Reuters.

Alexander Zakharchenko, prime minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, said there were about 3,000 Russian volunteers serving in the rebel ranks.

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Kiev Government's "anti-terrorism" troops surrounded, forced to retreat. [View all] another_liberal Aug 2014 OP

"self-defense force" = russian army under command of putin lol nt msongs Aug 2014 #1

I guess ignorance IS bliss... MattSh Aug 2014 #2

You're working off the wrong talking points. geek tragedy Aug 2014 #5

Well, gee, if this is true, RT and all, IronGate Aug 2014 #3

Is there proof of that . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #8

Glad you asked. IronGate Aug 2014 #10

American media obeys Wall Street's dictates . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #11

Just as I predicted from a Putin and his lackey's supporter. IronGate Aug 2014 #12

Are you calling me a bad name? another_liberal Aug 2014 #13

Point out where I called you a bad name. IronGate Aug 2014 #19

Is "lackey" a name you enjoy being called? another_liberal Aug 2014 #23

Lackey, as in Putin's pro russian terrorists fighting the legitimate Ukrainian govt. IronGate Aug 2014 #26

I'm glad to know that is what you meant . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #46

I always prefer 'minion'. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #29

And you constantly citing only one "news" source isn't biased? IronGate Aug 2014 #14

It doesn't matter much to me what you choose to believe, my friend . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #30

Did I ever say anything about not being protected by the 1A?" IronGate Aug 2014 #32

I Doubt He Will Even Believe This, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #37

Well, lookie here. IronGate Aug 2014 #45

And there it is again... any story which invalidates your own narrative becomes "propaganda". LanternWaste Aug 2014 #31

If they were "surrounded" how did they retreat? tkmorris Aug 2014 #4

The article suggests they negotiated with the separatists for safe passage . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #7

Hmm....so the tide drastically turns just when there's increased reports of Russian regulars.... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #6

I think it's more likely the other way around, Tommy . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #9

So the separatists who got routed from Sloviansk and numerous other cities one month ago... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #15

Or Ukraine screwed up by underestimating their opponents' resilience . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #16

Deus Ex Machina. nt Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #18

More like "Inexperienced, poorly-advised Ukrainian high command." another_liberal Aug 2014 #21

And once you believe that there were never any Russian troops in Crimea proper.... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #27

That is completely inaccurate . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #34

Russia invaded Ukraine at the end of February 2014. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #35

You are joking, right? another_liberal Aug 2014 #39

Oh, no. I'm not joking. Unfortunately. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2014 #41

Russia Today? Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #17

Clever counter argument . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #20

Get your news from reputable sources, and you'll be better informed Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #22

I provided 4 sources upthread that Putin has invaded the Ukraine with combat troops and IronGate Aug 2014 #24

Offering nothing much but Kiev's unsupported talking points . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #36

OH... But goddamed Russia Today's bullshit is the goddamned gospel? Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #44

Support our Oops, er, Troops! VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #25

Except that the US has no troops in Ukraine, IronGate Aug 2014 #28

An America volunteer, an Army veteran and reservist, died in Ukraine a few days ago . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #38

So, 1 volunteer died, if RT is to be believed, IronGate Aug 2014 #40

I'm sure there are more Americans with the Ukrainian forces . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #42

I'm sure there are more Americans with the Ukrainian forces . . . IronGate Aug 2014 #43

How could anybody expect of Russia to give up on the Ukraine sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #33