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Showing Original Post only (View all)Russian President asks Western leaders to make Kiev negotiate peace. [View all]
The President of Russia has suggested leaders of Western nations apply some of their diplomatic influence with Poroshenko to convince the Ukrainian leader to negotiate an end to the bloody conflict now devastating much of eastern Ukraine. Now we will see whether NATO, the EU and the United States are for peace and diplomacy, or if they prefer ever more destruction, death and war.
Putin: Kievs shelling in E. Ukraine reminiscent of Nazi actions during WWII
Russian President Vladimir Putin has compared the shelling of east Ukrainian towns and cities by Kievs troops to actions carried out by the Nazis during World War II.
Sad as it might seem, this reminds me of the events of World War II, when the German Nazi occupants surrounded our cities, like Leningrad, and directly shelled those cities and their inhabitants, Putin said on Friday, speaking at the Seliger-2014 youth forum.
He recalled the signs in St. Petersburg, preserved since World War II, which warned citizens which side of the road was more vulnerable to shelling. Now both towns and cities are surrounded by the Ukrainian army, which is directly shelling residential areas with the purpose of destroying infrastructure, and suppressing the will of those in the resistance, Putin said.
The president also commented on Kievs military units that are currently surrounded and blocked by anti-government militia. According to the latest data, Kiev has refused to try and negotiate safe passage for them to retreat.
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The Ukrainian leadership has demonstrated its inability to bring the situation under control, the Russian president said, urging talks between Kiev and the countrys east.
Our partners position is clear to me, he said. Yes, there should be talks, but in the mean time we need to let Ukrainian troops to do a bit of shooting maybe they will get the situation under control.
Putin added that it was time to acknowledge that attempts to resolve the crisis by force have failed and it is necessary to make Ukrainian authorities to begin negotiation and not over technical issues but over the core issues.
The main topic on the agenda should be the rights of the people living in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, the Russian president said.
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Read more at: http://rt.com/news/183648-putin-russia-ukraine-nazi/
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another_liberal
Aug 2014
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I haven't seen that they are even asking for secession (complete independence) . . .
another_liberal
Aug 2014
#3
Do you even know what 'federalism' means? Are you at all familiar with Lavrov's
VanGoghRocks
Aug 2014
#5
I do know what a federal republic is. And I have not heard of the June proposal.
DetlefK
Aug 2014
#6
Lavrov made the proposal in late March (not June as I mistakenly wrote earlier):
VanGoghRocks
Aug 2014
#7
I see Brezinski is the new Valerie Nuland amongst the pro-separtist crowd.
Tommy_Carcetti
Aug 2014
#9
No One Is Twisting Your Words, Sir, Though Most Would Agree They Are A Bit Twisted....
The Magistrate
Aug 2014
#30
Your Quote, Sir, Your Forehead, And Yes, It Will Attract A Few Stares Your Way....
The Magistrate
Aug 2014
#33
Many Confuse Noteriety With Fame, Sir: You Are Far From The First To Do So....
The Magistrate
Aug 2014
#36
Your Quote, Sir, Your Forehead, And Yes, It Will Attract A Few Stares Your Way....
The Magistrate
Aug 2014
#48
Nice punt, with use of the old Marxian chestnut "false consciousness"
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2014
#51
Zinn's book is a marvelous work, but it's no excuse for embracing Manichaeism
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2014
#53
I have come to realize that you are correct in this case- Putin is not Mugabe
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2014
#88
I'm still trying to figure out exactly what brand of "liberalism" you subscribe to, so I can....
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#55
I get it. Nationalism, by anyone other than Russia, is verbotten. Got it! It's so amusing to hear
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#84
Germany invaded Poland in an act of unprovoked military aggression . . .
another_liberal
Aug 2014
#71
Sounds like we agree that IF Russian soldiers and tanks were invading Ukraine THAT would be an act
pampango
Aug 2014
#72
No one is denying Russians are volunteering to fight in eastern Ukraine . . .
another_liberal
Aug 2014
#73
You did not answer the question about what evidence, if any, would convince you that Russia itself
pampango
Aug 2014
#74
So if Russia does not capture Kiev, for whatever reason, then there is no acceptable evidence of
pampango
Aug 2014
#76
What you said was, if Kiev is not captured, then the Russia has not invaded. I asked, what if
pampango
Aug 2014
#78
If organized formations of the Russian army intentionally and without provocation . . .
another_liberal
Aug 2014
#80
Now we are getting somewhere. I accept your definiton of an invasion. Now what evidence
pampango
Aug 2014
#83