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132. I remember telling a Right Winger at the time when he asked me if I had yellow ribbon

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:41 PM

Aug 2014

or a flag displayed anywhere, that I was willing to bet a million dollars that those yellow ribbons would mean nothing to those so vocally claiming their support when those soldiers returned and needed support. I asked HIM how many veterans living on the street he was actively trying to help?

Also predicted those symbols would soon be tattered remnants of what was a very effective propaganda campaign which he was participating in either wittingly or unwittingly.

Would like to find him now and ask him how many Iraq Veterans he's supporting and what happened to his yellow ribbons and flags?

Told him we on the Left do way more for veterans than wave flags and yellow ribbons. Naturally he called me a traitor, lol.

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What did DU used to be about, once upon a time? [View all] WilliamPitt Aug 2014 OP

If you printed flyers today, what would they be about? femmocrat Aug 2014 #1

Iraq WilliamPitt Aug 2014 #3

No, I didn't know about it. femmocrat Aug 2014 #4

Dahr Jamail Agony Aug 2014 #10

+1 (nt) enough Aug 2014 #13

Just bought it. nt Granny M Aug 2014 #134

How do we bring back Matcom and the many DUers, the ones who are still Cleita Aug 2014 #2

Matcom was hilarious, too. Arugula Latte Aug 2014 #29

When I first posted, he welcomed me to DU with his little moon Cleita Aug 2014 #31

heheh...Over at Bartcop we'd do impressions of matcom.... blm Aug 2014 #37

I'll have to go there and look for myself. Cleita Aug 2014 #39

That was the OLD days of Bartcop - really old. ; ) blm Aug 2014 #148

Yeah, I found out. Cleita Aug 2014 #149

Met Will and Matcom at Matcom's house for a cookout. trof Sep 2014 #158

Thank you Will. 7wo7rees Aug 2014 #5

I remember that..cindy sheehan in a ditch and will and a few duers went down and fed us photos and xiamiam Aug 2014 #22

Many DUers now rhetorically spit on her because she challenged the official account of 9/11 whatchamacallit Aug 2014 #106

Not to mention NobodyHere Aug 2014 #145

The 'left' is always the 'enemy' in this country. Mainly because they are not so easily manipulated sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #153

+1 whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #157

At DU and Bartcop we'd print the flyers and tuck them into books. blm Aug 2014 #6

THAT is activism! Cooley Hurd Aug 2014 #9

I wish you could post a copy of the flier. senseandsensibility Aug 2014 #7

It's buried in the archives of old DU. WilliamPitt Aug 2014 #12

It's much easier to unite in opposition to something than in support of it tularetom Aug 2014 #8

2002 was not a good time Egnever Aug 2014 #17

This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2014 #33

tularetom RobertEarl Aug 2014 #23

I never saw him other than a moderate Dem. He wasn't the Messiah, but he was alfredo Aug 2014 #41

Competent? Guess it depends if you are on Main Street or Wall Street. Tommymac Aug 2014 #45

Considering the constant sabotage by the right wing, he's done pretty good. Some of his alfredo Aug 2014 #48

We will have to agree to disagree. Tommymac Aug 2014 #86

+1,000 Scuba Aug 2014 #87

+1 zeemike Aug 2014 #94

Right On zeemike eom Tommymac Aug 2014 #150

Remember, his opposition is coming from a place of virulent racism. Nothing he can do or alfredo Aug 2014 #95

+100000 This absolute fiction, that obstructionism is solely to blame, woo me with science Aug 2014 #112

You had me at + Tommymac Aug 2014 #146

Excellent post ... 'that would not have lost the House in 2010!' sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #161

He could've been a contender... abakan Aug 2014 #116

My thoughts exactly. cheapdate Aug 2014 #58

Exactly sarge43 Aug 2014 #91

We have a Republican Congress, and that Congress is strangling America. nt valerief Aug 2014 #93

We have PLENTY to oppose! BobbyBoring Aug 2014 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author Cooley Hurd Aug 2014 #11

Back then we had principles. We opposed the invasion and killing of people in foreign countries. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #66

I have not changed either. zeemike Aug 2014 #97

Beautiful post. woo me with science Aug 2014 #114

And I agree with you. zeemike Aug 2014 #152

Beautiful post, sabrina1 hifiguy Aug 2014 #124

This. WilliamPitt Aug 2014 #125

Spot on. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2014 #131

+1 enigmatic Aug 2014 #147

"I haven't changed, but something has." suffragette Aug 2014 #151

I printed some out that you posted MuseRider Aug 2014 #14

Old friend. WilliamPitt Aug 2014 #15

Been a long ride hasn't it? MuseRider Aug 2014 #21

Long and long. WilliamPitt Aug 2014 #108

I did a wheat paste campaign in town. I made a four per sheet image of Bush with a alfredo Aug 2014 #43

All of it helped MuseRider Aug 2014 #44

That's it. I looked at it as an art installation. alfredo Aug 2014 #47

We used to post a lot about the Pottery Barn effect...if you break it you buy it. madfloridian Aug 2014 #16

Thank you Will... FarPoint Aug 2014 #18

no, Will, it wont be about that again xiamiam Aug 2014 #19

From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August. johnnyreb Aug 2014 #20

It won't be that way again for as long as a Democrat is president. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #24

and the democrats are always more principled in opposition shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #89

You can cross out "the democrats are" and put "just about everyone is" instead stevenleser Sep 2014 #164

I thought late 2002 and 2003 was the low point GP6971 Aug 2014 #25

Voting, paper ballots, GOTV, Historic NY Aug 2014 #26

Thank you, Will..... (& that;s the way it NEEDS to be again.) Faryn Balyncd Aug 2014 #27

I have been here since 2004 liberal N proud Aug 2014 #28

Same here, joined in 2004 customerserviceguy Aug 2014 #101

I met DUer proud patriot at an anti-war rally for Iraq. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #30

I remember feeling absolutely terrified in 2002 and 2003 -- and this was in Portland, Oregon. Arugula Latte Aug 2014 #32

I remember in 2003 the Baltimore PD kicking protesters off their bikes. Vattel Aug 2014 #35

Wow, that is awful. Arugula Latte Aug 2014 #113

It was scary how much the news media and the government worked together. Vattel Aug 2014 #135

I didn't know DU existed until 2004 unapatriciated Aug 2014 #34

Success is poison to unity. When we had Bush, we were united by a common foe. alfredo Aug 2014 #36

I'm a DU oldster from 2001 and remember it all well. Owl Aug 2014 #38

I've been here since 2001 as well. Lugnut Aug 2014 #111

It was a frightening but exciting time. PuraVidaDreamin Aug 2014 #40

DU will never return to those days, Will, and you should acknowledge your part in that. msanthrope Aug 2014 #42

You? RobertEarl Aug 2014 #50

Ah..and you insult a popular Democratic President again. In defense of Mr. Pitt. msanthrope Aug 2014 #53

Poor weddle Obama RobertEarl Aug 2014 #55

Is it brave to call this President a POS? sheshe2 Aug 2014 #80

He did indeed~ sheshe2 Aug 2014 #81

As a lifelong Democrat, I treasure my ability to criticize elected Democratic officials Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #52

There are critiques...and then there are rants and screeds that reveal the ignorance of msanthrope Aug 2014 #56

And then there's MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #59

I agree. cheapdate Aug 2014 #143

+1000, it is amazing how people whine about us not worshiping Obama daily. nt Logical Aug 2014 #61

I like Obama. He's a quantum leap better than Bush. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #67

Yes and read here... sheshe2 Aug 2014 #72

I don't think all of ablamj Aug 2014 #137

Please, sheshe2 Aug 2014 #68

Criticism is saying "I don't agree with the admin on this issue." Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #70

You 100% sheshe2 Aug 2014 #71

I answered the relevant question. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #73

Really? sheshe2 Aug 2014 #77

Really. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #92

See I think your attitude is the problem..... Logical Aug 2014 #60

prosense did a much better job at propping up the party line. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #90

+1 treestar Aug 2014 #100

In those days, I used to tell people things I learned on DU, QC Aug 2014 #46

Absolutely agree. Pholus Aug 2014 #102

It seemed more to be the democratic wing of the Democratic Party back then. ozone_man Aug 2014 #49

I remember your reports on those adventures. (nt) Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #51

How I remember William, you guys are Patriots! Crewleader Aug 2014 #54

True "patriots"... kentuck Aug 2014 #84

True Patriots indeed kentuck Crewleader Aug 2014 #103

Kudos to all your wonderful posts from back in the day carolinayellowdog Aug 2014 #140

You touch my heart carolinayellowdog Crewleader Aug 2014 #141

I recall Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2014 #57

yep, worried about bush and iraq? now we've got russia, syria, iraq, isis, ukraine, nsa, missing xiamiam Aug 2014 #65

Sadly, the owners had other designs TransitJohn Aug 2014 #62

We didn't tolerate conservitives back in the day. Notafraidtoo Aug 2014 #63

One can only hope. Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #64

"It was an astonishingly paranoid and fearful time if you weren't "on board" with the program, and sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #69

Politics. Now, not so much n/t Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #74

My husband Hedgetrimmer and I copied these flyers gate of the sun Aug 2014 #75

GD is the same as it has always been. Rex Aug 2014 #76

I often think that fliers are the best way to get the word out. grasswire Aug 2014 #78

We also used to have great jaysunb Aug 2014 #79

I Was 14 When I Joined in 2004, & That Is Still What DU Was About! Corey_Baker08 Aug 2014 #82

Could that be... sendero Aug 2014 #88

Thanks to Will Pitt and all those that have fought the long battle... kentuck Aug 2014 #83

We had a republican to oppose then. Now we have a democratic president and he gets a free pass liberal_at_heart Aug 2014 #85

DU is still about not getting 'in line' nashville_brook Aug 2014 #96

Here's what happened... whereisjustice Aug 2014 #98

This should be an OP. It's a thoroughly depressing post, woo me with science Aug 2014 #117

but there are voices like yours that won't be silenced carolinayellowdog Aug 2014 #139

Could not have Caretha Aug 2014 #154

Kick. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2014 #155

this G_j Sep 2014 #160

with the current news and topics, it feels less like 2002 than like paulkienitz Aug 2014 #99

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #104

We were "mooned" yellowwoodII Aug 2014 #105

I joined DU in 2004 (I was walldude in those days) SomethingFishy Aug 2014 #107

DU was founded on 01/20/2001 because of the outright theft of the '00 election... DRoseDARs Aug 2014 #110

Well it is sad that people mock you if you bring up the BFEE. Rex Aug 2014 #115

We were under siege back then. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #118

Pro tip: WilliamPitt Aug 2014 #119

Agree, but we don't act like it anymore. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #120

On the other hand, look what happened with the Hobby Lobby protest theHandpuppet Aug 2014 #121

but a year later something had gone terribly wrong hfojvt Aug 2014 #122

Good find tammywammy Aug 2014 #123

Old Timers - Read this thread salin Sep 2014 #165

Back in the "Islamofascist" / "Freedom Fries" era when flag symbols were everywhere.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #126

I remember telling a Right Winger at the time when he asked me if I had yellow ribbon sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #132

I reminded a Right Winger that the SONG was about a guy getting out of prison. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #144

K&R AMEN! secondwind Aug 2014 #127

Great post and I think I can help a little moniss Aug 2014 #128

You push my buttons on a related note, Will rock Aug 2014 #129

Two of us did the same that week here. We handed out Anthony Zinni's quotes and facts mahina Aug 2014 #130

The problem is ablamj Aug 2014 #133

Misogyny? No, wait, that's what it's about now. randome Aug 2014 #136

It was about the real American dream fighting against what had turned into a nightmare carolinayellowdog Aug 2014 #138

I remember that we had to accept Bush's telling of 9/11 as the unvarnished truth, remain silent, or blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #142

I love this thread Marrah_G Sep 2014 #156

This site use to have standards krawhitham Sep 2014 #159

You do? WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #162

. Electric Monk Sep 2014 #163